Why does my Pho become bland after I pour the stock over the rice noodles?!


Question: The bottom line is either you did not put enough beef meat in or not cooking the stock long enough. The soup base MUST simmer for at least 4-5 hours before eating (my cooking preference is 6 hours for any kind of soup base, beef or chicken, for ANY type of soup). The sweet taste of the soup is really from all the beef ingredients, NOT from ANY kind of garnish, such as star anise, daikon, .thao qua, cloves, onions (green or white, which are placed AFTER the soup is poured over the noodles, RIGHT BEFORE serving, otherwise the onions will be overcooked and decrease the ability to enhance the beef flavor), and so on. ALL garnishes (see below for the list) are placed AFTER pouring the soup and right before serving.

Although impertinent to your question----and most other non-Vietnamese Asians and non-Asians don't know this, because they are not used to the fish sauce flavor----the key to enhancing the flavor of the beef (the slices or beef flavor in the broth) is adding in the Basil (Rau Que) leaves and squeezing in some lime juice (don't substitute with lemon juice, as there will be a different taste in the soup), along with a couple of dashes of fish sauce (Nuoc Mam). For dipping sauce for the beef, we like to mix seafood sauce with the Vietnamese chili sauce (as opposed to other Asian brands or styles of chili sauce) and a bit of lime juice. I don't like it (too greasy), but my biological dad and some other Vietnamese even like a little bowl of chopped green onions (length wise) with hot oil (NOT the Chinese chili pepper type of hot oil, this is just the clear vegetable oil served almost to boiling point temperature). They just eat the extra "side" onions that way.


Answers: The bottom line is either you did not put enough beef meat in or not cooking the stock long enough. The soup base MUST simmer for at least 4-5 hours before eating (my cooking preference is 6 hours for any kind of soup base, beef or chicken, for ANY type of soup). The sweet taste of the soup is really from all the beef ingredients, NOT from ANY kind of garnish, such as star anise, daikon, .thao qua, cloves, onions (green or white, which are placed AFTER the soup is poured over the noodles, RIGHT BEFORE serving, otherwise the onions will be overcooked and decrease the ability to enhance the beef flavor), and so on. ALL garnishes (see below for the list) are placed AFTER pouring the soup and right before serving.

Although impertinent to your question----and most other non-Vietnamese Asians and non-Asians don't know this, because they are not used to the fish sauce flavor----the key to enhancing the flavor of the beef (the slices or beef flavor in the broth) is adding in the Basil (Rau Que) leaves and squeezing in some lime juice (don't substitute with lemon juice, as there will be a different taste in the soup), along with a couple of dashes of fish sauce (Nuoc Mam). For dipping sauce for the beef, we like to mix seafood sauce with the Vietnamese chili sauce (as opposed to other Asian brands or styles of chili sauce) and a bit of lime juice. I don't like it (too greasy), but my biological dad and some other Vietnamese even like a little bowl of chopped green onions (length wise) with hot oil (NOT the Chinese chili pepper type of hot oil, this is just the clear vegetable oil served almost to boiling point temperature). They just eat the extra "side" onions that way.

Toast the spices. Though I don't think this makes a huge difference because the broth cooks for so long, some cooks toast the spices before adding them to the broth. For this approach, use a skillet set over a medium-low flame. Once the star anise, cloves and cinnamon are fragrant, remove them from the heat. Lightly crush the spices using the flat side of a knife or mortar and pestle. Encase them in cheesecloth or a mesh spice/herb ball and add to the broth.


Vary the spices. Some Vietnamese cooks omit the cloves, reduce the amount of star anise and instead, use thao qua (black/false cardamom). Available at Asian markets, the dried brown pod resembles a ridged whole nutmeg. Thao qua has a strong smoky, camphor aroma. In the recipe provided here, use 1 star anise and 1 thao qua; keep the cinnamon but omit the cloves. Use the flat side of a knife to gently whack the pod, breaking open its skin to expose the pyramid shaped seeds. Place in cheesecloth or a spice/herb ball and add it to the broth. Once you can smell its fragrance, remove the thao qua from the pot. Otherwise, it will over power the other elements.

Make broth with oxtail. Some Vietnamese cooks swear that using oxtail instead of beef leg bones yields a superior broth. Oxtail is rather pricey so I'm not sure if the bit of extra flavor and gelatinous texture is worth the expense. If you'd like, use all oxtail or substitute some of the leg bones with an oxtail.


Add daikon. Omit the sugar and add daikon to sweeten the broth. Peel ? to 1 pound of daikon and cut into 4-inch sections. Add it to the broth along with the onion, ginger and other ingredients.


Garnish with poached scallion. What to do with the leftover white parts of the scallion? Drop them in the broth for hanh tran (poached onion), a homey pho garnish that people will fight for.


Embellish with other beefy elements. If you want to replicate the splendorous options available at pho shops, head to the butcher counter at a Viet or Chinese market. There you'll find white cords of gan (beef shin tendon) and thin pieces of nam (outside flank, not to be confused with flank steak). While the tendon requires no prepping prior to cooking, the nam should be rolled and tied with string for easy handling; slice the nam with the grain for assembly. Simmer these ingredients (as you would for any cooked meat) in the broth for two hours, or until chewy-tender.

Airy book tripe (sach) is already cooked when you buy it. Before using, wash and gently squeeze it dry. Slice it thinly to make fringe-like pieces to be added to the bowl during assembly. For the beef meatballs (bo vien), slice each one in half and drop into the broth to heat through. When you're ready to serve, ladle them out with the broth to top each bowl. (Beef meatballs are sold pre-cooked in cryovac packages in the refrigerated sections of Chinese and Viet markets.)





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