My mother won't buy me soy milk?!
My mother won't buy me soy milk?
she went to a class yesterday and the dude says that drinking it gives you a lot of estragen and since i'm a guy i don't want that. are you kidding me? don't i need my protein and calcium? what is she thinking?
Additional Details6 days ago
thank you! time to show her and hopefully she feels stupid.
haha such a good son i am.
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6 days ago
thank you! time to show her and hopefully she feels stupid.
haha such a good son i am.
tell her that all cow's milk(regular and organic) contains 59 active hormones,one of them being oestrogen,the female hormone,soy milk contains a weak phyto-estrogen.If she doesn't want to buy you soy milk,have her buy rice milk.
http://www.rense.com/general26/truth.htm...
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Um, if milk gave you too much estrogen wouldn't most guys have breasts then? they don't. = drink milk, you'll be fine.
Yeah, and women will love your huge ****. (boobs)
and regulalr milk is fine for you dont beleive the vegan retards.
I don't think that they add estrogen to soy milk. I'm not sure what class she went to but maybe do some research on soy milk.
Soy Milk Is Safe! That Is What the Formula Industry Says
Critics suggest that soy formula, because it contains a chemical similar to the female hormone, estrogen, might disrupt normal hormone levels and impair development
In a recent study, a team of researchers conducted telephone interviews with 248 men and women aged 20 to 34 years who were fed soy-based formula as infants. Each of the participants answered questions that attempted to assess "health in young adulthood, with an emphasis on reproductive health."
The group that consumed soy formula was then compared with 563 similarly aged men and women who consumed cow milk-based formula during infancy and answered the same questions.
The only difference between the groups was that women who had been fed soy-based formula reported menstrual bleeding that lasted an average of one third of a day per month longer compared with women in the cow milk-based formula group.
The study relied on the memory of study participants, which may bias their answers.
Infants fed soy-based formula have long-term health outcomes similar to those who are fed cow milk-based formula, the researchers say.
JAMA August 15, 2001;286:807-814
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Dr. Mercola's Comment:
If you can believe a "telephone interview" study funded by the the baby formula industry, then maybe you will believe this nonsense. I know I sure don't. The study was funded in part by the International Formula Council, a trade group that represents manufacturers of infant formula.
Another example of the well-funded edible oil industry slipping their research into the public media. If you have not read Dr. O'Shea's Doors of Perception article please do so, as you will have a better example of how the industry attempts to shift your views.
One of the reasons why this issue is so important is that nearly 20% of infants are fed soy formula, with 750,000 US infants receiving soy formula every year.
There are some MAJOR flaws in the design of this study, but what would you expect from a study that is funded by the Infant Formula industry?
The major problem is that it was a phone survey. Other concerns include
Some people would not respond
The study did not address the thyroid issue
No medical examinations were performed
Only reviewed 250 children given soy formula
The authors also intentionally manipulated the statistics by failing to evaluate still-births or pregnancy failures which were higher in the soy group, while evaluating miscarriages which were slightly higher in the milk group.
The lack of any information on dose and time of soy exposure seriously impairs any usefullness of this study. The only time exposure discussed is 16 weeks, which is conrasted to the commonly recognized permanent harm resulting from about six months' exposure in girls and nine months in boys.
It is not only the phytoestrogen levels of soy formula (or soy milk) that are an issue, but the levels of manganese and aluminum in the products.
A soy-fed baby receives the equivalent of five birth control pills' worth of estrogen every day. These babies' isoflavone levels were found to be from 13,000 to 22,000 times higher than in non-soy fed infants.
My comments in February of 2000 are still valid:
Folks, soy formula is one of the worst foods that you could feed your child. Not only does it have profoundly adverse hormonal effects as discussed above, but it also has over 1000% more aluminum than conventional milk based formulas.
I don't recommend either, but if one, for whatever reason, cannot breast feed, then Carnation Good Start until six months and Carnation FollowUp after that seem to be the best commercial formula currently available, although it may not contain taurine, in which case it should be added..
The milk protein is hydrolyzed 80% which tends to significantly decrease its allergenicity. It is also important to note that when breast feeding it is wise to avoid drinking milk as it has been shown for several decades that the milk will pass directly into the breast milk which can cause potential problems in the infant.
Related Articles:
How Safe is Soy Infant Formula?
Infant Formula Fortification Protocol
Soy Formula Exposes Infants To High Hormone Levels
Soy Formulas and the Effects of Isoflavones on the Thyroid
Experts Dispute JAMA Soy Infant Formula Study
Is this really a problem? Who on earth is listening to mums at all? Just buy that soy milk yourself, if you have your own money or if mum gives you pocket money every day that shouldn't be problem..you're not giving an account for every step you make to mum, are you?
..and what that dude said is completely bs..
I would think that the horomones in cow's milk would do the same. I've heard of guys (and girls too) lactating and their doctors told them to switch to soy or organic milk because it was the horomones in milk that caused it. Tell her about that. She'll probably opt for the less expensive Silk rather than organic milk. You could also have her get Rice milk...that rice dream brand is good.
Wow, I don't understand the reaaaallllyyyy long post about infant soy formula when this question was about a teenager using soy milk, but regardless....
you can get rice or almond milks instead of soy milk if your mum is really opposed to soy milk. Or, you can do a bit of reseach and find out for yourself if the "dudes" claims are true if you really want the soymilk.
Either way, try some chocolate almond milk...it is so good you might die.
yep your coool & gud son, lol
go buy yourself some milk
well your mom is right soy milk has a lot of estrogen in it and if drank at a young age it can make you have a small penis and brest! don't believe me go look it up on google!!!
Your mother is trying to look out for you. Be kind to her when you show that it is OK for you to drink soy milk.
If she won't buy you soy milk, you can buy some for yourself if you have money on you. My mother has also voiced concerns over my drinking soy milk (I'm old enough to buy my food myself so her not buying it for me is not an issue in my case), saying that its genetically engineered and "not natural" as opposed to organic cow's milk which presumably comes "straight from the source" and already has plenty of protein and calcium in it (as opposed to adding calcium carbonate and using protein supplements). I try to reason out how soy milk is still pretty good for you (I love Silk soymilk in particular) but I am able to convince her far better about the healthy nature of almond milk. In fact as far as "milk" goes I either drink Blue Diamond almond milk or only Silk soymilk. Silk soymilk has 30% daily value of calcium and a decent amount of protein; Blue Diamond has 20% daily value of calcium, but almost no protein. I add vanilla soy protein powder but I guess your mother won't buy that for you either.
Maybe she'll buy almond milk for you, though. Try those Clif! Builder bars, delicious, healthy, even vegan, and 20g of protein per bar. Have lots of nuts too.
I suggest you ask your mom to buy you rice. Then you can make rice milk which is just as good. A good way to make rice milk is to use fresh rice that is still hot.
1 cup rice
4 cups hot water
1 tsp vanilla
put all in blender, puree for about 5 minutes (until smooth)
let sit for 1/2 hour
pour into container being careful not to let the sediments
at the bottom pour into the new container.
This is a homemade solution to Rice Dream and similar products. Easy, nutritious and absolutely no preservatives or other "unknowns".
2? hours 2 hours prep
Change to: oz US Metric
4 cups water
1/2 cup uncooked rice (white or brown may be used) or 1 cup cooked rice (white or brown may be used)
1 vanilla bean or 1/2 teaspoon vanilla extract
Cook rice, vanilla bean or extract and water until very soft.
Let cool, remove vanilla bean (if using) and put mixture into blender or food processor.
Blend until very smooth.
Let stand for at least 45 minutes, then strain through cheese cloth.
Voila! Rice milk!
Not that I would encourage you to go against you mother's rules, advice or requirements. I am adding a Soy Milk recipe.
Soy bean milk is a very good alternative to cow’s milk. It provides protein which is of plant origin and does not contain cholesterol.
One cup of soy milk contains only 5 grams of total fat whereas there is 8 grams of total fat in the same amount of cow’s milk. Soy milk is perfect for people who are lactose intolerant, for vegetarians, for those who are allergic to animal milk, and for those who are suffering from diarrhea.
There are many types of soy beans and they all can be used to make soy bean milk. When buying soya beans, make sure that the beans are whole and not cracked and are not green in color. A good reason why you should make your own soy milk is that the milk you make at home will not contain any added preservatives (not to mention it is cheaper to make it yourself).
Ingredients for soy milk:
1 lb. uncooked soy beans, washed and cleaned of stones
Fresh water
Brown or white sugar
A small piece of fresh ginger or fresh orange peel
Equipment:
1 large pot
Muslin cloth (cheese cloth doesn’t work very well)
Containers to store the soy milk in
A food processor
Big bowls or containers
1. Soak the beans in a large bowl overnight.
2. The next day, dump out the water that the beans have been soaking in.
3.Place some beans and fresh water in a food processor in a ratio of 1 part bean to 2 parts water, and grind the beans.
4. Spoon out the ground soy beans into another bowl and repeat the previous step until all the soy beans are ground up.
5. Place a handful of the ground beans in the middle of a piece of muslin cloth. Gather the four corners together and squeeze the soy milk into a pot. Repeat this step till all of the beans are squeezed dry.
6. Place the pot of freshly squeezed soy milk on the stove. Wash and cut a small piece of fresh ginger and place that into the pot of milk. You can substitute the ginger with fresh or dried orange peel. The ginger or orange peel will take away the beany smell of the milk.
7. Bring the milk to a rolling boil and add the sugar of your choice. The amount of sugar is up to you. Stirring the milk occasionally will prevent a film from forming.
8. Remove the ginger or peel, cover the pot and let the milk cool down. Then pour into containers and refrigerate the milk immediately.
9. The left over ground soy can be used to make soy burgers or as a filler in your favorite chilli.
Here are a few addy's with more recipes, some with a twist. http://www.soya.be/how-to-make-soy-milk....
http://www.mothering.com/sections/recipe...
http://find.myrecipes.com/food/recipefin...
http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=5606.0...
I hope you mother will see rice milk as a good alternative. Good luck, FYI
soy milk is way healthier than regular milk. milk contains fat and other drugs they put in the cows, unlike soy milk or rice milk.