Just a thought.....?!
Just a thought.....?
But do Vegetarians produce more methane than carnivores and are therefore a greater threat to global warming?
Bang goes all those animal pastures.
4 days ago
esk474: don't even go there with 'global warming' I would counter your argument that the emission of Co2 is NOT responsible for GW, but more likely the lack of re-absorbsion of the gas due to de-forestation.
Also consider the base level of Co2 in the atmosphere- approximately 0.04%, and we are supposed to responsible for emitting something like 4% of that 0.04%.
Whereas natural phenomena like Volcanoes et.al emit more than 60%.
I we totally stopped all of mankinds emissions of Co2 we wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference to global temeperatures.
We are coming out of an Ice - age, Live with it.
4 days ago
vegan&proud, you seem to have quoted one of your previous answers, and I disclaimed some of your facts then, in the meantime I did some checking for myself.
The average steer consumes approximately 30 imperial gallons of water a day and will be slaughtered at around six months, so we can assume that 5500 gallons of water would be used.
Now allowing that cattle will slaughter out at 1500 Lbs average, works out at around 3.7 gallons of water per Lb of dead weight. or just under 40 ltres per Kg
And I'm actually basing these figures on the US yields for last year.
Try using your head research the subject yourself.
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4 days ago
esk474: don't even go there with 'global warming' I would counter your argument that the emission of Co2 is NOT responsible for GW, but more likely the lack of re-absorbsion of the gas due to de-forestation.
Also consider the base level of Co2 in the atmosphere- approximately 0.04%, and we are supposed to responsible for emitting something like 4% of that 0.04%.
Whereas natural phenomena like Volcanoes et.al emit more than 60%.
I we totally stopped all of mankinds emissions of Co2 we wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference to global temeperatures.
We are coming out of an Ice - age, Live with it.
4 days ago
vegan&proud, you seem to have quoted one of your previous answers, and I disclaimed some of your facts then, in the meantime I did some checking for myself.
The average steer consumes approximately 30 imperial gallons of water a day and will be slaughtered at around six months, so we can assume that 5500 gallons of water would be used.
Now allowing that cattle will slaughter out at 1500 Lbs average, works out at around 3.7 gallons of water per Lb of dead weight. or just under 40 ltres per Kg
And I'm actually basing these figures on the US yields for last year.
Try using your head research the subject yourself.
Actually no. I think thats just men... whether they eat meat or not.
It has been put out by some idiots, that because us veggies and vegans eat a lot of soya, the huge extent of trees that are haveing to be brought down to make space for growing soya beans, is actually just as bad as the methane out put for non veggies. Obviously I agree that deforesting the land for the massive suply of soya is wrong and I choose not to buy it or buy from a company that doesn't add to the destruction. But us veggies know the truth of the matter is that the meat industry is responsible for a huge amount of methane and other factors in global warming.
It's only recently, that global warming has even been taken seriously by these guys. Now they admit it they try and pass the buck, bloody typical in my opinion!
About time they started taking responsibility for their own actions and stop worrying about everybody elses...
-Half of the water used in the U.S. is used for animal agriculture.
-Every year in the US an area the size of Connecticut is lost to topsoil erosion--85% of this erosion is associated with livestock production.
-Livestock already consume half the world's grain, and their numbers are still growing almost exponentially.
-Every kilogram of beef we consume, according to research by the agronomists David Pimental and Robert Goodland, requires around 100,000 litres of water.
-Approximately 1.3 billion cattle populate the earth at any one time. They exist artificially in these vast numbers to satisfy the excessive human demand for the meat and by-products they provide. Their combined weight exceeds that of the entire human population. By sheer numbers, their consequent appetite for the world's resources, have made them a primary cause for the destruction of the environment.
-In the US, feedlot cattle yield one pound of meat for every 16 pounds of feed. It takes an average of 2,500 gallons of water to produce a single pound of meat. According to Newsweek, "The water that goes into a 1,000 pound steer could float a destroyer." In contrast, it takes only 25 gallons of water to produce one pound of wheat. Feeding the average meat-eating American requires 3-1/4 acres of land per year.
-Feeding a person who eats no food derived from animals requires only 1/6 acre per year. - Studies by North Carolina State University estimate that half of the some 2,500 open hog manure cesspools (euphemistically termed "lagoons"), now needed as part of hog productions there, are leaking contaminants such as nitrate--a chemical linked to blue-baby syndrome--into the ground water.
-Worldwide demand for fish, along with advances in fishing methods--sonar, driftnets, floating refrigerated fish packing factories--is bringing ocean species, one after another, to the brink of extinction. In the Nov., '95 edition of Scientific American, Carl Safina writes, "For the past two decades, the fishing industry has had increasingly to face the result of extracting [fish] faster than fish populations [can] reproduce." Research reveals that the intended cure--aquaculture (fish farming)--actually hastens the trend toward fish extinction, while disrupting delicate coastal ecosystems at the same time.
-A scientist, reporting in the industry publication Confinement, calculated in 1976 that the planet's entire petroleum reserves would be exhausted in 13 years if the whole world were to take on the diet and technological methods of farming used in the US.
-If tomorrow people in the US made a radical change away from their meat-centered diets, an area of land the size of all of Texas and most of Oklahoma could be returned to forest.
-It is estimated that livestock production accounts for twice the amount of pollution in the US as that produced by industrial sources.
-Livestock in the US produce 130 times the excrement of the entire US population. Since farm animals today spend much or all of their lives in factory sheds or feedlots, their waste no longer serves to fertilize pastures a little at a time. One poultry researcher, according to United Poultry Concerns literature, explains: "A one-million-hen complex will produce 125 tons of wet manure a day." To responsibly store, disperse, or degrade this amount of animal waste is simply not possible. Much of the waste inevitably is flushed into rivers and streams.
-Methane is one of the four greenhouse gasses that contributes to the environmental trend known as global warming. The 1.3 billion cattle in the world produce one fifth of all the methane emitted into the atmosphere.
-.Agricultural engineers have compared the energy costs of producing poultry, pork and other meats with the energy costs of producing a number of plant foods. It was found that even the least efficient plant food was nearly 10 times as efficient in returning food energy as the most energy efficient animal food.
-Since so much fossil fuel is needed to produce it, beef could be considered a petroleum product. With factory housing, irrigation, trucking, and refrigeration, as well as petrochemical fertilizer production requiring vast amounts of energy, approximately one gallon of gasoline goes into every pound of grain-fed beef.
-The direct and hidden costs of soil erosion and runoff in the US, mostly attributable to cattle and feed crop production, is estimated at $44 billion a year.
- Each pound of feedlot beef can be equated with 35 pounds of eroded topsoil.
-A nationwide switch to a pure vegetarian diet would allow us to cut our oil imports by 60%.
-Compared to a vegan diet, three days of a typical American diet requires as much water as you use for showering all year (assuming you shower every day).
-An acre of land can produce 20,000 pounds of potatoes, but only 165 pounds of beef.
-In the U.S., 260 million acres of forest have been destroyed for use as agricultural land to support our meat diet (over 1 acre per person).
-Since 1967, the rate of deforestation has been one acre every five seconds.
-Trees are being cut down at an alarming rate in the US, as well as around the world, for meat production. For every one acre cleared for urban development, seven acres are cleared to graze animals or grow feed for them.