What vegans thinks about vegetarians ?!
What vegans thinks about vegetarians ?
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I think being a Vegetarian for health reasons is a fine thing to do. My only problem with Vegetarians is when they claim to be for animal rights. Vegetarianism is a morally inconstant position if you claim to oppose the killing of animals (They can be for animal welfare and be consistent).
@ Brennan R: I understand Vegetarians don't want animals to die, but by consuming eggs and dairy products you are still killing animals. egg laying hens are slaughtered once their production wanes, not to mention all the male chicks are killed off right away as they are of no use to the egg industry. As for dairy, the cows must be continually impregnated to produce milk which produces the unwanted byproduct of a calf. A male calf is sold to the veal industry and a female becomes another dairy cow. Once dairy cow's cannot produce milk at the levels required they are slaughtered. Being Vegan is not difficult, as a matter of fact after the first few weeks it's almost effortless. as far as your specific health concerns I would point you in the direction of the book Becoming Vegan. That will answer all your dietary questions. Let me assure you that we do just fine without animal products and you would too. Animal foods are unnecessary. Even mainstream groups such as the ADA agree.
"people who support animal rights tend to be vegan, Matt. Vegetarians usually believe in the cause of animal welfare and are strongly against factory farming or slaughter methods."
- Which is basically exactly what I said. My problem with Vegetarians is when they claim to be against animal exploitation ( an animal rights position) and still consume animal products. No matter how you look at it, this is inconsistent and hypocritical. Let me just make clear once again that wile I don't believe in spending time on welfare issues, a Vegetarian can be for animal welfare and still consume animal products, just as an meat eater can.
Source(s):
http://www.animal-law.org
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The fact that vegetarians don't eat meat is something very positive. Most vegans are vegetarians before they decide to stop eating dairy products, eggs or honey and don't wear leather anymore, but there are so many steps in between that, that it is actually hard to draw the line. I respect everybody for his/her choice of life style as long as they leave me alone. There are situations where people are forced to stick to certain food groups due to health reasons or allergies, and I don't see who would have the slightest right to look down on his nose to anyone?
i've been a vegan for six years, and have never had a problem with vegetarians, non-vegans, or non-vegetarians. The vegan lifestyle works great for me, but may not suit someone else. I'm the only vegan in my family and circle of friends, so i'm used to eating at a table with meat-eaters. it doesn't bother me at all, so long as no one puts the meat on my plate, lol. people are always curious as to why i'm a vegan, and i'm happy to share my story with them. but if i'm not asked, i don't bring it up. i won't sit at the dinner table and tell everyone else why they should or shouldn't eat something. that's up to them to decide.
I think they are walking in the right direction.
I understand that it is hard for a lot of folks to give up Cheese, eggs and dairy. If the reason you are giving these things up is because of the animal torture industry that produces them well it becomes much easier. If you are doing it for health reasons than good for you as well.
The eggs, dairy, and even honey are gotten from means that most would find distasteful.
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I would have to consider myself a cross between the two. I follow a vegan lifestyle, but I believe eggs from free range, well cared for chickens are a gift, as is milk from a pampered cow. Sadly, I am allergic to eggs and can't eat them, but my daughter loves them. Hens discard unfertilized eggs, and it would be a waste to not use them-the hen gives it up willingly, and is not harmed in any way. The same goes for raw milk from a happy cow. She would become engorged if not milked, so I consider it a gift from her. I churn her cream into raw butter and homemade cheese. I have no guilt issues with this at all. I think vegans respect that vegetarians are not on the same path, but are definitly doing their part. I think it important to remember that we all got to where we are through OUR experiences, not someone elses ideas of what they should be.
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I hope they think NICE happy thoughts!!!
I am still new to being a vegetarian so I'm not sure what vegans think about vegetarians but what I don't understand is how someone can eat fish, eggs and milk and claim to be a vegan. Maybe yahoo needs to make a new banner for people that don't have a clue!
Who cares? It's not like it's a competition to be the most righteous. It always infuriates me when I'm expected to justify my eating preferences, and people with different preferences to mine shouldn't have to justify theirs. People shouldn't be made to feel inferior because of their preferences whether vegan, vegetarian, omnivore, carnivore, lacto-ovo whatever. Live and let live.
Hey, Matt H, vegetarians don't want any animals to die. That's why we're vegetarians!
People who support animal rights tend to be vegan, Matt. Vegetarians usually believe in the cause of animal welfare and are strongly against factory farming or slaughter methods.
I also have to agree with another one of the previous posters. Sure I'd be vegan, but that's very difficult to do. Milk, cheese, and yogurt are one of my only sources of calcium, B12, and it would be otherwise difficult to go out to eat with others(it's pretty difficult already).
Sure, I believe eating eggs is wrong, but it's not a contest. I don't consider a lacto-ovo-vegetarian a 'hypocritical' vegetarian.
To Andielep: I don't have anything against Matt or vegans like yourself, I just don't like being called a hypocrite or that my vegetarianism is some kind of 'half-baked' veganism as I felt was implied. I'd like to go vegan, but right now I don't have the resources to do so.
And to Matt: Who said I eat eggs? I am aware of what happens to both broiler and laying hens and the horrible conditions in which they are forced to live. And, for the most part, I am familiar with what happens to dairy cows (but thanks for the details).
And yes, I realize what you said about vegetarians and animal welfare now. I didn't read the whole thing because I was offended by your first statement, it seemed immediately unreasonable and one sided and I wanted to respond right away, sorry. No cows DIRECTLY die from being milked. But I do agree with you about eating eggs is the same as eating a dead animal.
Anyway, thanks for the book recomendation, my friend.
I like vegetarians. There are some really great guy's and gals on here. I also love the vegans too , lovely bunch. Meat eaters with a conscience are fine too. Awareness is the most important thing . What bugs me is the people who call us freaks and unatural or ask stupid questions , cf Foxhunter_guy's daft questions.
EDIT - Brennan Matt is a great guy he is just passionate about being a vegan. So Am I. Hey try it!! I'd never go back to vegetarian!!!
I like vegetarians I used to be one before becoming
vegan. I don't feel I have the right to judge anyone
for eating eggs and dairy. I also don't feel that I
should ridicule or look down my nose on meat
eaters. We need meat eaters to stop eating meat
in order end all this cruelty. I would not want my
attitude or aura to turn them away from
pursuing the same lifestyle that I have.