I Just decided to be a vegan.?!
I Just decided to be a vegan.?
I just decieded to be a vegan, after being a vegetarian for 3 months. I have a question though, I was talking to a vegan friend of mine, she said that she don't drink beer or wine because of the yeast, and don't eat anything with honey in it.
But then she said that she has some vegan friends that do drink beer and do eat yeast. So my question is would it be ok for me to drink beer and eat bread and honey. Because It may be un-vegan to kill bugs, and I try not to go out of my way, but I where I live we get alot of humungous roaches and I can't help it but kill them sometimes... I mean they fly... They are nuts. So as far as the honey goes can I eat it, because I've killed bees before?? also I didn't think yeast could feel pain... Isn't it just bacteria or something? So I was wondering if it would be ok to eat yeast.
Thanks.
3 months ago
I am just curious, because this is what someone told me, I'm not saying that I believe my friend, I just want to know if there is any truth to what she is saying.
I really don't want any anti- vegetarian lectures. Thanks for the input though.
Answers:
3 months ago
I am just curious, because this is what someone told me, I'm not saying that I believe my friend, I just want to know if there is any truth to what she is saying.
I really don't want any anti- vegetarian lectures. Thanks for the input though.
Honey- Not-Edible
Yeast- Edible
Yes, bees do indeed die to create honey... it is less cruel than the boiling alive of silkworms, but still not a vegan practice.
:)
For those who are still confused about the *yeast* issue
"Yeasts are part of the fungi kingdom. They are not animals. Nutritional yeast (Saccharomyces cerevisiae) is different from torula, or brewer's yeast. It is grown on a molasses solution and comes in the form of flakes or powder. It has a cheese-like flavor and can be sprinkled on baked potatoes, popcorn, vegetables, and other foods. "
When being a vegan or vegetarian it is best to not ask "can I eat this" but "should I eat this."
Source(s):
Here is why honey is not vegan.
http://www.vegetus.org/honey/honey.htm...
Of course, here is an arguement by someone who believes it is vegan(ish)
http://www.satyamag.com/sept05/greger.ht...
However, the yes-vegan arguement sounds a lot like the animals-are-going- to-die-anyway-so -why-don't-we-just -eat-them arguement.
........what? Yeast has no nerves; they can't physically feel pain. Neither can honey. Obtaining honey doesn't kill bees. Look it up if you don't believe me.
You want to hear something funny? Scientists have found out that some researched plants use electrical impulses to react to stimuli, much like human nerves do. I wonder if tomatoes and carrots feel pain?
I don't do honey, cause it comes from an animal with a face and the bee industry does some pretty evil things to the bees.
I haven't heard about this yeast thing, although some wines are cured in animal skins and some vegans choose to avoid them. Beer is pretty much ok though. If you want to really be a hardazz, killing a cold virus or breathing in bacteria could be considered non vegan activities. So draw your lines and pick your battles.
Hell, a mosquito lands on me than it is dead. It is a matter of an animal attacking me and possibly exposing me to a deadly disease.
http://www.ecowine.com/
http://www.askcarla.com/answers.asp?ques...
that should give you enough options to stay toasted but not injure and animals.
you really should choose your friends better
Depending on how strict a vegan you plan to be, your friend is right: the strictest vegans do not consume yeast or any food derived from an animal. Many vegans, however, choose to continue eating yeast because they do not consider it an animal, but as a micro-organism.
As far as killing bugs, that is your personal decision, though most vegans would probably frown on it.
Whatever you do, do it for your own personal
convictions not someone elses. You'll always
find differences among different vegans.
As far as honey goes it is universally
understood that it isn't vegan because
it comes from a bee's abdomen and not a
plant.
Killing insects depends on your point of view.
I think roaches comes under survival of the
fittest. Afterall, they are after your hard earned
food. You have to have a sense of proportion
and decide for yourself where you draw the line.
Also roaches carry diseases. This really is an
issue of self-preservation.
Just my thoughts.
Oh btw- the Tibetan monks where given
permission to kill the ants in their tents.
There was no way around it.
Yeast is not an animal, so its 100% vegan. There is no debate over this, yeast is not in the animal kingdom.
Honey isnt vegan, anyways, whats so great about it anyways? Its just glucose, fructose and bug parts
i'm vegan and i drink beer
but to be fair i'm not a very good vegan
i had eggs few days ago, so i'm really just a loser
Being a vegan takes a lot ..asking questions here is a great start ..First) Vegans do not eat honey ..Honey is a regurgitated syrup processed by a living being for its own nutritional needs and that of its young. and yes many die in the process.. ... second )Vegans do eat yeast ...Yeasts are part of the fungi kingdom. They are not animals... third) beer/wines are more complicated ..some are vegan ..some are not.. the reason is many commercial beers and wine use Isinglass -( a clearing agent used in the manufacture of beer and wine.) It's derived from the swim bladder of fish. also An animal ingredient is occasionally used as a foam-control agent in some keg beers ...Bottled naturally conditioned beers don't go through a similar fining process ...so you are going to need to delve further into individual wines and beers .. In addition to all mentioned you must watch for the following ..Aspic - savory jelly derived from meat and fish.
Cochineal - a red coloring made from crushed beetles, found in many red foods.
Collagen - the connective tissue from meat..
Gelatin - made from the boiled-down bones and connective tissues of slaughtered animals. It's found in confectionery, desserts and sweet and savory jellies. Vegetarian alternatives are available.
Roe - fish eggs.
Suet - solid animal fat.
Whey - not considered suitable for vegetarians as it is derived from milk but it is usually made using animal rennet as a by-product of the cheese industry.
Best of Luck!!
You shouldn't eat honey. It comes from bees, and unlike just killing an insect, these bees are put in cages and something is taken from them (honey).
You can eat yeast. Like the the person said above me you have to be aware of what is actually in the beer because it may contain some other animal product.
But I'm drinking a beer right now, and I'm still a vegan, lol.
Refusing to eat yeast as a vegan principle is nonsensical. The previous answers sum that up pretty well. Now some people don't drink certain beers because the filtering process involves animal products. I find, though, that if you focus on non-vegan processes you will make yourself and others miserable, and no one will want to join you in your veganism. So be the happiest vegan you can be and know that no one is a "pure" vegan, simply incidentally to living they use things made or transported using animal products. (e.g., steel is made using animal products) Honey is a toss-up, but if you find yourself obsessing and being annoying to other people about it, I'd say don't worry too much. I'm vegan and I don't eat honey straight up, but if I notice it's in something I'm eating, I don't have a heart attack either.
Good luck and focus on the big things: eggs & dairy.