Is it OK to consume lots of casein protein?!
Is it OK to consume lots of casein protein?
I have a casein protein shake dry mix that I drink before bed on nights that I perform my intense upper body workouts. I like casein because it is very slow absorbing, and feed my muscles throughout the night (takes 5-7 hours to be fully absorbed). Therefore, it helps me maximize my muscle growth and minimize catabolism.
However, I've heard of zero-casein diets and stuff like that...what is so bad about casein? I drink lots of milk, and consume my casein shakes weekly and I'm in the best shape I've ever been in. Should I stop doing that?
2 months ago
I've never heard of osteoperosis being a problem in males though. Plus, milk contains lots of calcium in the first place. And I get calcium from the vegetables I often eat.
As far as cholesterol, I only eat lean meats. I cannot stand fatty meats. I NEVER have ground beef or hotdogs, and when I cook steak I trim off all the fat. The little saturated fat and cholesterol that I do consume, my body needs and uses anyway.
Also, I try to consume lots of flavonoids to combat any cardiovascular problems. I drink red wine and eat 85% cocoa dark chocolate almost daily. I think that helps, no?
2 months ago
I appreciate the responses. I know that males can get osteoperosis, my point was just that it's not very common, like breast cancer, so it's not something I'm worried about.
I don't get my advice from reading labels or from manufacturers of supplements...I get them from articles written by bodybuilders and weight trainers, some of whom are dieticians. These can be found online at www.bodybuilding.com and www.abcbodybuilding.com and www.tnation.com.
Everything I hear about weightlifting is that protein is most important. Yes, muscle is built from amino acids, but the protein shakes I use have the highest quality of all the essential amino acids in muscle. I use whey for quick absorbtion before workouts and in the morning, mass gainers (blends) for after workouts, and casein before bed and sometimes in the morning. The gains I get are great, and it's all natural protein.
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2 months ago
I've never heard of osteoperosis being a problem in males though. Plus, milk contains lots of calcium in the first place. And I get calcium from the vegetables I often eat.
As far as cholesterol, I only eat lean meats. I cannot stand fatty meats. I NEVER have ground beef or hotdogs, and when I cook steak I trim off all the fat. The little saturated fat and cholesterol that I do consume, my body needs and uses anyway.
Also, I try to consume lots of flavonoids to combat any cardiovascular problems. I drink red wine and eat 85% cocoa dark chocolate almost daily. I think that helps, no?
2 months ago
I appreciate the responses. I know that males can get osteoperosis, my point was just that it's not very common, like breast cancer, so it's not something I'm worried about.
I don't get my advice from reading labels or from manufacturers of supplements...I get them from articles written by bodybuilders and weight trainers, some of whom are dieticians. These can be found online at www.bodybuilding.com and www.abcbodybuilding.com and www.tnation.com.
Everything I hear about weightlifting is that protein is most important. Yes, muscle is built from amino acids, but the protein shakes I use have the highest quality of all the essential amino acids in muscle. I use whey for quick absorbtion before workouts and in the morning, mass gainers (blends) for after workouts, and casein before bed and sometimes in the morning. The gains I get are great, and it's all natural protein.
Well, milk is primarily composed of casein (80%). Also, milk contains artificial growth hormones, antibiotics, and pus, which interfere with one's immune system and endocrine system. Since animal protein is acidic, unlike plant protein, your body needs to buffer the acidic environment. It is believed that calcium usually has to get leeched from the bones to neutralize the detrimental effects of animal protein (casein included). This is probably a large reason why osteoporosis and colon cancer is high in meat and dairy consumers. In my opinion, milk is horrible for you as is meat. They have no fiber, aren't very nutrient dense, and contain cholesterol and saturated fat. If I was you, I would cut out casein and quit worrying about getting enough protein. Also, I would limit meat and dairy consumption dramatically toward low or no amount. It is shown that we don't need that much protein. All of that bodybuilder mumbo jumbo is mumbo jumbo, period. Remember, the bigger you are, the harder your body has to work, and that can cut down one's lifespan. Think about it, why did Andre the giant die young? Because he was huge! Plus, more food=more toxins in the body. I'm a vegan who can bench 300lbs and I probably only eat 65-70 grams of vegetable protein a day. If you want to get big fast, yeah, animal protein will be more effective than plant protein because it is more absorbable and assimilable. But are you willing to face the risks of prostate cancer, colon cancer, osteoprorosis, high blood pressure, diverticulosis, shorter life span, and heart disease? There's my 2 cents in bro. All the best.
Osteoporosis IS a problem in males. In my opinion, it really doesn't matter too much if you trim the fat off of meat because you still get a gargantuan amount of animal protein. Animal protein also contains a significant amount of arachidonic acid which causes inflammation. The chance for stroke may be lowered, but many health problems will still more than likely be prevalent when eating lean meat compared to fatty meat. As for cocoa and red wine, it doesn't seem relevant to me. They have nowhere near the nutritional value of green vegetables. If you eat a lot of fruits, veggies, some nuts, some seeds, mushrooms, moderate amounts of whole grains, and legumes, all of you nutrient needs will more than likely be met, according to current science. The only exception is vitamin b12, which is synthesized by bacteria. In theory, this would have to be supplemented. Variety of food is the key or else health will go down the drain.
It's a misconception that men do not get osteoperosis and that only women do. This misconception is due to hormones. Men primarily have testosterone and less estrogen. As they age the bode density GRADUALLY decreases as opposed to women who are protected by estrogen in their childbearing years. Once Menopause runs it's course there is quick dramatic drop. Both men and women acquire bone deficiency problems but at a diifernt rate and time in life. by the time they are the same age they both have bone problems. According to some experts, too much protein is actually responsible for accelerated degeneration of bones. too much protein makes Calcium absorbtion harder. It seems that bone diseases are actually more common in Western societies than the east because animal protein is more readily consumed. Besides, it's unnatural to drink milk after infancy, especialy if it's not from your own species.
You certainly aren't doing the cows any favors by using lots of casein (look up how the dairy industry treats their animals)!
Considering that prions are carried in milk that *should* be a concern also.
http://www.medindia.net/news/view_news_m...
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/storie...
You might be in good shape now but do you really want to become a drooling idiot in the future?
You've never heard of Osteoporosis in males? I'll admit it doens't get as much press as for women but why do you think men shrink as they age? It's loss of bone mass that does it. You're also missing the point on the way your body uses protein. Protein is irrelavant! It's amino acids that matter and your body normally has at least a two day supply stored in your bloodstream unless you've undergone significant trauma (like major burn damage). The ONLY way for your body to remove excess/unneeded amino acids is to bind them to calcium and excrete it through urine. On a typical high protein diet all the calcium found in milk ends up being used to remove the excess protein you consumed in that glass of cow juice.
The idea that you need massive amounts of protein to add muscle mass is as ridiculous as saying that you want your plants to grow faster so you give them a double dose of fertilizer (you'll burn their roots and kill them (even with organics).
For the sake of your long term health I'd suggest you speak with a medically licenced dietician and stop listening to the folks that want you to buy their overpriced junk!