Veggies and Vegans I would like to know why you think that eating meat is wrong?!
Veggies and Vegans I would like to know why you think that eating meat is wrong?
And that it is harmful to the enviroment, because deer would over populate and cause damage to the plant life and they would begen to starve. I don't mean to be rude or anything but I thing that meat and veggies are the way to go for one I don't need any supplements at all I a very healthy and my strength never faulters. I am just courious why your views are the way they are. Also I care for animals when I see acts of cruelty it makes me mad cruelty being starving beatting and cramped conditions.
Answers:
"Veggies and Vegans I would like to know why you think that eating meat is wrong? "
- Because there is no more justification for using animals as our resources than there is for using people. Both are wrong, and both violate the right of the exploited individual to not to suffer as the resource of someone else.
"And that it is harmful to the enviroment, because deer would over populate and cause damage to the plant life and they would begen to starve."
- This is incredibly misguided. First of all the reason the deer appear over populated is because we moved into their land. Second, wildlife "conservation" departments encourage breeding though various methods because of the revenue hunters create. And third, even if their was a genuine problem of deer overpopulation, there are many non-lethal options for correcting it.
" I don't mean to be rude or anything but I thing that meat and veggies are the way to go for one I don't need any supplements at all I a very healthy and my strength never faulters"
- I don't take extra supplements either (besides what is added to food). What's your point? The vitamin industry makes 99% of it's money from meat eaters, don't forget that.
"I am just courious why your views are the way they are."
- Check out http://animal-law.org This will explain my views.
"Also I care for animals when I see acts of cruelty it makes me mad cruelty being starving beatting and cramped conditions."
- Well of course, most people feel this way. What you don't see (and most people don't) is that 99% of the things humans use animals for are just as unnecessary for our survival and egregious as obvious cruelty you mention. We don't need to use animals. We don't need to enslave them, eat them, test on them, use them for entertainment, or keep them as pets. none of these things are necessary.
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Vegan
http://askavegan.blogspot.com
i think it rong because it making a animal loose a mother/sister/brother or whatever. think if it ever happaned to us.
I have been a vegetarian for seven years, and im not the type that is obsessed with not eating animals, i really just got sort of grossed out by eating stuff that was alive. I also didnt like the taste of meat.
I think most vegetarians aren't against people hunting animals for food, it's the mainstream industrialized way meat is manufactured and killed in slaughterhouses that most of them are against. Try watching Meet your meat.
http://www.goveg.com/factoryfarming.asp...
Disturbing stuff there. By the way, I'm not a vegetarian.
Im not against those who eat the meat but the slaughtering is just violent and cruel and i wont support it. I also do not need supplements because I have a healthy diet. I make up for the protein, B vitamins and iron I miss from certain meats. Also, it is proven that vegetarians (those who eat the right things, of course) live longer, healthier (and slimmer) lives. When a meatr eater gets their high cholesterol, high blood pressure, the doctors say "get rid of the red meat". And now there are so many choices, its not about eating carrots anymore, many fake meats taste very close to the animal, only noone was slaughtered for my taste buds. As for over population, that dosent make it okay to kill them, they have their forests and we should leave them alone. If animals were meant for food, they wouldnt have been made with hearts and brains to feel and fear. They wouldve been another lifeless plant with a different texture.
I've got to agree with you. I love animals and it breaks my heart to see them hurt, but it's just the way the food chain works! We don't get mad a lions for eating those sweet little defenseless animals, so why should we get mad at people. sad, but true.
One thing I can say is that if not for supplying so much beef to McDonalds, the locals wouldn't be slashing and burning the rain forests of Brazil at a rate of thousands and thousands of acres per year. (Don't forget that we get 1/3 of our oxygen on the planet from the Amazon). Anyhow, they cut it down to create plains and raise cattle for profit. I guess I could call it over-consumption of meat.
Secondly, some people believe that the energy due to the trauma inflicted upon an animal at the time of its death remains in the meat and is somewhat unhealthy to eat.
Some folks simply don't see a need to eat meat ... if you retrain yourself in vegetarian cuisine, you can get all of your nutrition through produce and grains. There ~is~ excellent vegetarian food out there, it is just that we haven't been acculturated to preparing it.
Myself, I was lacto-vegetarian for 6 years. I had a hard time with it. I became somewhat pasty and chubby. My husband on the other hand, thrived with the diet and remained vegetarian for 14 years. There is some literature out there about blood types and how different blood types do best with certain food groups. Some people say it is a hoax but due to personal experience, I can't help but wonder if there is some merit to it.
Lastly, some people are really concerned about the hormones injected into livestock and wonder if this is causing the premature onset of secondary sexual characteristics in our youth today.
I hope I've been able to shed some light in answer to your question. :-)
Some People are vegans because of the allergic environment we live in, some people are allergic to milk, eggs, pork, peanuts, beef, and shellfish. It doesn't leave much but veggies, does it? Just think, if you're allergic to milk, you're allergic to cheese, butter, margarine, etc. Think also of having to carry an epipen around for any allergic reaction. OK, you have my point of view. Now as to animal cruelty, some animals are raised just to eat, such as pork. I doubt that there would be as many animals raised if not to be devoured by humans. This includes beef, chicken, and other forms of meat. Yes, you have a balanced diet, and you are very healthy. Good for you. Some people will never have these same advantages because of allergic reactions. Hopefully, you will never be allergic to anything. God Bless, Martha S.
I don't like the taste of meat, especially pig, cows and chicken, because their meat can become red, taste fatty, some with fish, I don't like the skin nor the smell. Also it's against my religion. some time to time, I have to eat it, because I need to gain weight but I dont like eating cows or pork, turkey, goose it's all red meat and fatty.
Also I'm afraid that they might contain disease such as mad cow disease, bird flu, fish has mercury. prok I usually get food poisoning from them, i dont know why, but I just do.
I cant speak for everyone, but I dont think that eating meat is wrong. I just dont eat meat because I dont like to smell of raw meat and I cook all my food myself... so I just dont eat it.
As far as getting my nutrients and stuff, i take vitamins. and you cant even tell that i dont eat meat cuz I am not the thin sterotype everyone sees.. all in all i dont think its wrong, whoever does just wants to force their way of life on you and that dumb
Thank you for posing your question in a respectful way, and wanting to find out more information. This is what I know:
raising animals for food is a primary cause of land degradation, air pollution, water shortage, water pollution, loss of biodiversity, and not least of all, global warming.
feeding animals for meat, dairy, and egg production requires growing some ten times as much crops as we'd need if we just ate pasta primavera, faux chicken nuggets, and other plant foods.
On top of that, we have to transport the animals to slaughterhouses, slaughter them, refrigerate their carcasses, and distribute their flesh all across the country. Producing a calorie of meat protein means burning more than ten times as much fossil fuels--and spewing more than ten times as much heat-trapping carbon dioxide--as does a calorie of plant protein. The researchers found that, when it's all added up, the average American does more to reduce global warming emissions by going vegetarian than by switching to a Prius.
Raising cattle for the fact of multiplying and selling and killing them is inhumane in my opinion, but is also the reason why overpopulation is taking place. Animals should be left alone to have their own circle of life.
its about respecting life! I see the problems a diet of fast food and mindless consumption can produce on all scales (no pun intended).
Hope this helped.
Environment
1.Half of all the water consumed in the US is used by animal agriculture
2.For every 1 acre of land cleared for urban development,7 are cleared to grow feed for livestock or grazing land for livestock
3.The livestock population in the US create 140 times the excrement as the human population of the US
4.Food for a vegan for 1 year can be produced on only 1/6 of an acre of land, while it takes 3 1/4 acres of land to produce food for a meat-eater for one year.
Health
1.“It is the position of the American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada that appropriately planned vegetarian diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate and provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases.”
“Well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood and adolescence. Vegetarian diets offer a number of nutritional benefits, including lower levels of saturated fat, cholesterol, and animal protein as well as higher levels of carbohydrates, fiber, magnesium, potassium, folate, and antioxidants such as vitamins C and E and phytochemicals. Vegetarians have been reported to have lower body mass indices than nonvegetarians, as well as lower rates of death from ischemic heart disease; vegetarians also show lower blood cholesterol levels; lower blood pressure; and lower rates of hypertension, type 2 diabetes, and prostate and colon cancer.“
World Hunger
1.Out of the 40 poorest countries,we buy grain from 38 of them to feed to animals so we can have meat
2.We feed more than 70 percent of the grains and cereals we grow to farmed animals, and almost all of those calories go into simply keeping the animals alive, not making them grow.
3.The world's cattle alone consume a quantity of food equal to the caloric needs of 8.7 billion people―more than the entire human population on Earth.
4.For every 16 pounds of food you put into livestock,you only get one pound back of edible flesh
Worker's Rights
1.The rate of repetitive stress injury for slaughterhouse employees is 35 times higher than it is for those with other manufacturing jobs.
2.The farmed-animal industry has also been condemned for exploiting children―kids in their early teens have even died while working in animal-processing plants, and Multinational Monitor magazine called Tyson Foods one of the world’s “Ten Worst Corporations” because it hires people in the U.S. who are too young to work legally.
3.Kids have even been killed while working in slaughterhouses in the United States―a 15-year-old died, and a 14-year-old was seriously hurt in separate incidents at Tyson’s animal-processing plants. “One teenager died and another suffered serious injuries because this company ignored the law,” the U.S. Labor Department noted. “It was illegal for either one of them to be employed in the kind of work Tyson’s hired them to do.”
4.Immigrant workers are easy prey for the meat industry. After they are brought to the U.S., they’re often so desperate to make money to send to their families back home that they’ll take any job without complaint. If they’re being treated unfairly, they don’t have any choice but to continue working for the farmed-animal industry, and if they become injured and can no longer work, they are often stuck in the U.S. with no job and no money to buy a bus ticket home.
US Beef Isn't Safe(I believe it isn't)
1.France, which has only a fraction of the U.S. cattle population, tests more cattle in a single week then the U.S. has tested in a decade
2.According to Europe's latest annual report, Europe is testing cattle at a rate of almost two thousand times that of the United States
3.Almost all fattening beef cattle, all dairy calves and all adult dairy cows raised conventionally are fed meat and bone meal in the United States
4.Under the 1997 feed regulations, the FDA specifically allowed the feeding of chicken litter to cattle to continue, even if the chickens had just been fed meat and bone meal made from cattle remains
5.The U.S. also is presently testing only 1 out of every 18,000 cows slaughtered
6.In fact, the USDA, which now tests only 1 percent of all slaughtered cows
7.The USDA is run by several lobbyists,Alisa Harrison,who is now spokesperson of the USDA,was the spokesperson for the National Cattleman’s Beef Association for 15 years,how can an industry meant to protect you be run by the industry they are supposed to protect you from?
Watch(not a peta video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghxknys7r...
I look at it this way. I have a dog, for a pet. When I get home everyday my dog is so happy to see me she about knocks herself down wagging her tail so hard. She jumps up on me and licks my face. I can just tell she is happy and that she missed me. If my dog can feel these emotions about me, then any animal can feel these emotions toward people,things or other animals. This throws the argument, that animals don't have feelings, clean out the window. If a being is capable of feeling, how can you justify hurting that being? I would no more hurt an animal, than I would another person. Look at it like this. You have seen humans that are mentally retarded. Would you walk up and kick one of them in the head? It is the same thing, for me, with animals. Just because they might not be up to our standards of intelligence, doesn't mean they cannot feel. The only time I would ever hurt another being intentionally is in self defense of myself or others. If I were to try and eat meat, I would think of this every time, I tried to take a bite and I wouldn't have an appetite for long. I hope you change your mind about eating meat. Studies have shown that humans can live a very healthy life without including meat in their diet. Alot of these animals that have been raised as a food source suffer terribly through out their lives. Look up some of the tortures on the net or even better, schedule a trip and visit a local slaughter house. It could change your mind about your diet. I know it did mine.
Exploitation. It harms the enviroment because farm animals will over graze. The grain used to feed the animals could feed starving people the water used for them could be used for us, not to mention all the health benifits. Besides there is no difference between eating a dog and eating a cow, animals value their life just like we value ours.When I ate meat i took supplements so why would that change when i stopped eating animals. I couldn't say i cared for an animal then supported it's exploitation
I don't need animal flesh to survive or to be healthy. It therefore fits into the "luxury" category, as in not a necessity. I used to eat flesh because it "tasted good."
No being who can think, feel or suffer should have to spend its life in horrible conditions to provide something I do not need.
It is a heightened level of compassion/understanding. I could no more slit the throat of my dog than a cow. There is no difference between the animals we are taught to love and the animals we are raised to kill other than the labels society puts on them.
Someone mentioned the food chain. We are so far removed from the food chain it is ridiculous. We are machines and vast factories of torture who treat animals as products, pieces and commodities, so quick and inefficient that many animals who are skinned or boiled are done so while still alive.
Many vegans and vegetarians have other reasons, but this is mine.
Thanks for asking politely. I too am healthy and do not require supplements.
:)
I've never been one to get on a soap box to tell the "Evils" of eating meat. I choose not to because it grosses me out. But the "food chain" argument really doesn't fly either. We're really not like a lion that eats a gazelle. Look at your fingers...do you have claws that could slice a jugular? How fast can you run? Could you really chase down a deer, or rabbit? I think if a cow wasn't bogged down by their manufactured utter, it could outrun us as well. We don't even have the same enzymes in our stomachs as all other carnivores to call ourselves equal on this "food chain". Ours are not made for digesting meat. Even our intestines are longer (in ratio) and not meant to host a big chunk of meat. We happen to be ingenious and happen to be able to hunt and kill animals by tools, not our natural "speed" and "fangs". Could your teeth really cut through tough animal carcass? Do any other carnivores roast their meat by a fire? Just because we CAN do it, doesn't necessarily mean we're should do it or we're made for it.
Also, the environment issues are another reason I choose not too....as a previous post stated.
vegetarian are odd
like PETA they are WIRED
Because it's gross to eat things that were alive and moving around....
There are lots of valid comments in this thread so I will not continue on that side of the spectrum.
What I want to talk about is more from a evolutionary standpoint. You talk about overcrowding and animals starving. This is true. But, that is the way it is suppose to be; natural selection. If the weaker animals cannot hunt/forage for food, they will die. But the ones that do, are stronger and more fit. This is the natural progression of evolution of species.
When we interfere with it by our man-made "population control", we are unbiased as to what we kill. We could be killing the "alpha-males" and allowing the "omegas" to survive. This dampened the ability of the species to survive.
The population gene pool and the variety of species on Earth is "out of whack". The variety of species and variations within species are vastly miniscule to what it was in the past. Humans have placed their hands on nature in such a way as to slow or retard Mother Nature. People talk about how "evolution" doesn't exist or is too slow.... well if we would stop messing around with nature, maybe it will happen sooner.
I think it is wrong because of how the farmers treat the animals. Plus, there are pleanty of meat substitutes. (E-mail me...) And, studies show that by not eating meat, it takes a bigger impact of global warming than if the average person stopped driving a car. Hope this helps! -question001
i beleive that animals are equal to humans and that animals were not made for us to use as resources, they were created to live.
you say that deer wold over populate and cause daage to plant life.
did you ever stop to think: humans are one step ahead of deer, were already over populating and damaging the plant life???