What is the point in being Vegetarian?!
What is the point in being Vegetarian?
Okay, so many people are becoming vegetarian these days, and I only see 2 reasons for becoming a vegetarian or vegan.
1. One does not like the taste of meat.
2. One cannot eat meat in their religion.
Many people will say something along the lines of "It hurts the animals, so I won't eat meat."
Okay, so you are saying that ending the animals' pain is why you are a vegetarian. But what about plants?
People will see animals getting slaughtered, and obviously when they are slaughtered some may feel pain. But when one becomes vegetarian, they put pain into plants that have a will to survive.
My point is, when animals are hurt/killed they may show pain, and the pain is extremely visible. When a plant is being hurt/killed, doesn't it feel pain? Or does it not? Just because the pain may not be interpreted by humans correctly, doesn't mean that they should inflict pain, when they say they are ending pain.
My statement is: Instead of ending pain, you are just transferring pain.
Agree?
1 month ago
First, I don't oppose ones choice to eat meat because they don't like the taste, or if they want to loose weight, or if it goes against their religion.
Okay, so some people have been saying things along the lines of:
"Plants don't have emotions, so we are immediatly allowed to kill and eat them."
Plants have to feel what goes around them, humans just may not interpret them correctly! It is like depression, you cannot necessarily say someone is depressed, since it is extremely rarely visible.
Just because the pain is not interpreted one way doesn't mean it's not there.
It is life, don't you agree, living things can feel emotions such as pain, grief, joy etc... and they may have different ways of showing, but that still allows them to be hurt and killed?
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1 month ago
First, I don't oppose ones choice to eat meat because they don't like the taste, or if they want to loose weight, or if it goes against their religion.
Okay, so some people have been saying things along the lines of:
"Plants don't have emotions, so we are immediatly allowed to kill and eat them."
Plants have to feel what goes around them, humans just may not interpret them correctly! It is like depression, you cannot necessarily say someone is depressed, since it is extremely rarely visible.
Just because the pain is not interpreted one way doesn't mean it's not there.
It is life, don't you agree, living things can feel emotions such as pain, grief, joy etc... and they may have different ways of showing, but that still allows them to be hurt and killed?
Plants feel pain now? Kind of grasping at straws aren't we? Did you fall asleep during in the third grade when they did the unit on nervous systems?
Plants might have a stress-avoidance response, but it is quite a stretch to refer to this as “pain.” It is even more erroneous to equate this response with the pain suffered by animals and human beings. Plants lack nerve endings, brains, hormones, and other structures that would allow them to experience pain. They also lack the ability to move away from sources of stress, an evolutionary trait linked with the ability to feel pain.
Even those who argue that plants feel pain and suffer should support a vegetarian diet because the number of plants that must be fed to an animal to produce enough meat for one human is greater than the number of plants required to feed that same human if he or she ate the plants directly. Meat-eaters are responsible for “killing” 10 times more plants than vegetarians, and they also kill and cause suffering to animals.
The argument that plants feel pain and suffer and that killing them is as bad as killing animals is weak and illogical. Those who use this argument to justify their continued consumption of meat should attempt to approach the debate in a more logical, scientific manner.
Just another false argument made by people who eat meat in order to justify what they do. This always amazes me, they say that they do not feel bad about eating animals yet they are always trying to justify why they eat the way they do.
Plants don't have faces.
Why do you care?
You should use your energy to worry about things that are of your concern and/or deserve change, not personal choices.
One comment often raised by non-vegetarians hints at possible hypocrisy of vegetarians who claim that concerns about animal cruelty are even part of the reason for their choice: "You claim that vegetarianism respects life, but you eat plants. Plants are living creatures, too."
There are two issues raised by such a comment. One is the distinction between "life" and "consciousness" in ascribing value to life, and the other is the inherent error about biological issues incorporated in the comment.
First of all, making the point that plants have "life" and can therefore be equated with the value of higher animals ignores the basis on which differing valuations of life are ascribed. It is not "life" itself which is valuable, but the process of consciousness and meaningful sentience prominent in humans and vertebrates and essentially nonexistent in plants, bacteria, viruses or other simple life forms. We are willing to kill millions of one-celled bacteria, each one an autonomous, individual organism, to save one conscious, sentient human. We recognize consciousness and highly-advanced mental abilities in dolphins, chimpanzees and even household pets, which we do not recognize in flies, cockroaches or algae. While we may have valid reasons based on environmental considerations for protecting other species to maintain ecological balances, we almost always recognize that there is an inherent value in animals with greater sentience or consciousness than those that lack it. And few would assert any consciousness at all in plants.
Second, when we eat animals, we kill them. But when we eat fruits, nuts, grains and many vegetables we don't have to kill the plant. On the contrary, we help the plant reproduce by taking a part of it which was designed to be attractive, to spread its seeds. If we don't take the fruits or nuts or grains, the plant will drop them to the ground and try to give the seeds a chance to grow. But it would prefer that another creature help spread the seeds as far as possible.
What about people who don't eat meat for their health?
Or the people who don't eat meat because it's inefficient and if everyone were a vegetarian there would be no food shortages anywhere?
You're really not looking at all the reason to be a vegetarian.
WELL WRITTEN!!!! 100% CORRECT!!!!!
Killing is killing, either animal or plant!!!
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A lot of people are vegetarians for health purposes. I am not a vegetarian, but I do recognize that lots of meat every day is not a healthy diet.
Good one!
1. taste
2. environment
3. compassion
4. health
5. price
These are my reasons in no particular order.
edit: I don't know where you are getting the idea that eating plants is murdering. Plants do not have a central nervous system and therefore, are incapable of feeling pain.
I'm a vegetarian and I don't like meat so I have an excuse. I can see where you coming from but people feel it is cruel to kill perfectly healthy animals for no reason. It is a very hard topic and I agree but plants (as far as we know) like being eaten and can feel no pain.
Um, plants don't really have emotions or feelings. They aren't the same as animals. The only reason you eat the things you eat is because you like the way it tastes, or you think its healthy.
You shouldn't criticize why anyone becomes a vegetarian or vegan. Thats a personal or religious choice, and its up to that person.
you help saving animals from getting killed, the less people eat meat the less people kill, i stopped eating meat for about two months or longer,then i fell and ate chicken and i still eat meat but not as much as before. angels told me to stop eating meat so i can show people the right thing to do and so people could show other people the right thing to do. i am still trying to stop eating meat and i'm winning the fight. when you think about it think (HMMM PEOPLE ARE ALOUD TO KILL ANIMALS TO EAT AND THEY DON'T GET ARRESTED) we don't have to eat meat to survive, some people belive we do but we don't, why would god suggest for his people to kill to survive when yhere is no killing in heaven
YOUR RIGHT ABOUT THE TRANSFERRING PAIN FROM ANIMAL TO PLANT plants do feel pain and some people don't realize it, they think because they don't move on this earth like humans move they can't feel, when people pick flowers and step on grass it hurts, the cartoon movie a quest for camelot, one point the girl stepped on the grass and the grassgot angry
I love the taste and the chewiness of meat and I can literally not go on a day without meat. I have absolutely no problem with killing animals. We are the top of the food chain and animals eat other animals. I just ate a rabbit for dinner last night in fact.
that is stupid! plants don't feel pain.
They dry up and are dead before the wheat is harvested. Not even a live plant. The fruit falls off the tree so is dead as far as the tree is concerned. Not a part of the tree.
So what you use that to keep from mowing the lawn? Nice try! but that is different than running over your wifes cat while you mow the lawn. Try it and find out, you will be a dead man.
I eat meat but wonder how safe is it? what are we getting?
if we dont pick apples from tree wont they fall on ground
,if we dont harvest our crops ...crops wont be growing forever they have their life cycle .....Sir no offence but ...U have no point to compare killing animals to getting food from plants ..I never saw a plant /tree bleeding after some body picked a fruit /veg from it .....but yes whenever animals r killed first their blood is discarded in drain ....
suggestion
pay a visit to slaughterhouse and then a farm
i hope u will understand ...
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I agree with you lazy! This is a very good point, I am now planning on going to a meat eater and veggie eater again!
You know, this is a good point just because humans cannot interpret the pain that plants show, it doesn't mean we should transfer pain from the animals to the plants. We should have a balance of pain, wether it ranges from plants to animals.
People may be extremely close minded when looking at this topic and not relize that plants have the will to survive, as other living things and humans do. The only thing is humans have the strongest power in the food web, and probably always will.
So we will have to accept the fact that we can inflict pain on every form of life regardless of its domain, kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, or species.
Hope that satisfies this question or feeling.
I totally agree with you. Did you hear about that sad story of a child who died of subnutrition because his parents were vegetarian? Our bodies need proteins from animals, and maybe if sombody doesn't like the taste of meat, or their religion doesn't let them eat it, as you've said, they should drink milk, eat cheese and eggs.
If I become one, it is because of health and wealth.
You are angry because we, vegetarians, are better humans than you!
I am a vegetarian because I consider meat as a crime. I don't feel sorry for eating veggies and fruits because that's what they're made for, they're made to be eaten by animals and humans to spread the seeds inside them.
Let's actually go with your notion that plants have feelings and emotions and can feel pain,YOU WOULD STILL BE A VEG*N!If you eat meat,you are requiring the killing of plants AND the killing of animals.You kill less plants by eating them directly,by cycling food through livestock then eating the livestock you lose 96% OF THE CALORIES YOU PUT INTO IT.The number 1 cause of deforestation is for meat,for every one acre of land cleared for urban development,7 are cleared to grow feed for animals or to be used as grazing land for animals.When you put 16 pounds of dood into a cow,you only get one pound back.The least efficient plant food is ten times as the most efficent animal food.A meat diet requires 4,000 gallons of water a day,a vegan diet only 300.A meat based diet uses up tons of water,and pollutes what water is left,the livestock of the US create 140 times the amount of excrement as the people of the US do.No,I wouldn't say you are transferring pain,because plants clearly cannot feel pain,there is a clear difference between animals and plants,the fact that animals are sentiant and plants are not.Even if you believe plants can feel pain,you'd still be a veg*n to reduce the amount of suffering and pain done overall.
Okay, there are alot more reasons why people become vegetarian... not just those two.
And if I have to explain to you the difference between a plant and an animal... I think you need to go back to that part of grade school when they talk about brains and central nervous systems and pay close attention...
Plants do not have brains, they are not aware of themselves.
Plants do not have nerves or central nervous systems, you know those things that make you feel pain...
You people need to stop bringing up this point as if it is a valid argument against vegetarianism... It's not.
The concept of pain is limited to creatures with a nervous system. Plants are not in pain because pain requires nerves. Animals including humans are different that way from plants. Very simple.
Obviously all animals need food. For humans it doesnt make sense to stop eating all plants, (like it would make no sense for elephants) since you cant survive without food, but you can be perfectly healthy without meat. In fact, you can be much healthier without it. But you cant be healthy without vegs and fruit (or water) Shouldnt that at least indicate that it is *natural* for humans to eat plants, but not meat? Assuming that survival and not a death wish, is in our nature? So what kind of role would the pain of plants play in nature?
Consumption of meat and dairy by humans results in totally needless suffering and deaths of other species, is a threat to marine bio diversity, is linked to many fatal diseases and is a major contributor to world hunger. Only argument FOR meat consumption is that it tastes good.. From every other aspect it's proven bad. Bad for our planet, bad for animals, bad for humans. What part of this is natural?
So if you're an omnivore what is your point? Veganism is about reducing the suffering as much as possible. I'm not a vegan to prove others wrong, but to do something good. That's what I'm doing. What do you do? If you're serious about griefing plants, what are you going to do about it?
>>>>1. One does not like the taste of meat. 2. One cannot eat meat in their religion.<<<< You forgot no.3, vegan/vegetarian ethics,( not to be confused with religion. ) and no.4. health benefits.
>>>When a plant is being hurt/killed, doesn't it feel pain? Or does it not?<<< No, it does not. IF you believe that it does, be my guest and quit eating plants.
You overlooked my reason.. I just don't like the idea of eating animals. I don't think you need to and it just feels strange and uncomfortable for me to eat the flesh of an animal.
Also, the transferring pain idea is BS.
Plants aren't capable of feeling pain because they have no central nervous system. When people say that plants make noises when they are cut, it is thought to be gasses escaping.
So, no I don't agree.
And like most others have been saying, there are more than two reasons for going vegetarian.