Is it wrong to tell the truth about animal cruelty?!
Is it wrong to tell the truth about animal cruelty?
It seems like since I got here, people have been saying mean things to me simply because I speak the truth about animal cruelty. Is it wrong to speak the truth?
I feel it is my job to help the innocent animals from people who have no compassion. You can not love animals and eat them, you just can't do it.
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we were brought up on meat in my family, so i cant say i can relate to you. Im not trying to be rude but sometimes some people will never agree with you, you cannot push your ideas on people. Thats my two cents about politics:)
I think some people just want to avoid thinking about it; it ruins their enjoyment of their dinner.
It is not wrong to tell the truth about it, but pushing your beliefs in peoples faces will turn them away from you even more, stick to your beliefs, but be careful how you express them and who you express them to
IT'S NOT TRUE!
I LOVE ANIMALS, YET I STILL EAT MEAT!
IT'S A CIRCLE OF LIFE, JEEZ, ITS HOW THE FOOD CHAIN GOES ON. are you going to go reason with the leapord on why he shouldn't eat the rabbit? i mean, he's eating meat right there, and you're not gonna even try to do ANYTHING about that
so yea, shut up
You CAN love animals and eat them. See that is their purpose here on the earth to be eaten. In Genesis (I don't remember the chapter or verse) it says that man was given dominion over the fowl of the air, and fish of the sea, and all manner of creeping thing. Meaning that it is our responsibility to make sure that these resources are used properly. Eat them because we need the nutrients they offer, but make sure they don't die out. I don't know why I'm even trying, all you vegan freaks are so thick headed its no use anyway.
-Duo
Aw come on. People have sustained themselves off of animals since the dawn of time. So have animals for that matter. To each his own. If you don't want to eat meat, fine. But put a bandaid on that bleeding heart of yours and let others do what they will too.
you know i am a animal lover to and if any one hurts one of them i would take it my self that the way i feel
That is false, short-sighted and, frankly, a stupid comment. Of course you can love and care for animals and still eat meat. I dont think the way most 'food' animals are treated is right, or humane because I have respect for animals, but as an animal myself, I eat what I need to be to be healthy. Do you think that lions 'hate' zebra's? Of course they dont... Dont forget that however technologically advanced we are, we're still part of nature.
its not wrong to speak in what you belive in but they are usefull for scince if i was starving i would eat my rabbit sorry
There's nothing wrong with speaking *FACTS*. If your 'truth' consists of made-up 'facts' and emotionally-laden irrational accusations, there's a lot wrong with that. If your 'truth' consists of claiming your own *OPINION* as the single invariable 'truth' for all people and making extremely arrogant and malicious comments about anyone who disagrees, there's a lot wrong with that too.
I love my pets, and a lot of other people's pets too. I also love a nice juicy steak. Some of us have sufficient intellectual acumen to understand that an animal's 'value' and status are determined by human perception and choice, not any intrinsic trait. Cows are nice, largely inoffensive creatures; but they're not pets, and they are quite tasty.
It is not wrong to stand up for animal rights, but on the other hand, this country was started on people hunting for their dinner, so a hunter who hunts food for the table and not just for sport should not be critisized.
Animals that are kept as pets should be treated as if they were part of your family and not mistreated. What if it was one of your own kids?
I think it's good to inform people of animal cuelty. Such as abuse and testing products on animals, but you stilll need to respect the fact that people love animals and eat them. Although they usually don't love the animals they eat.
I don't think its wrong one bit. Especially in regards to you posting in a vegetarian/vegan forum. If people who eat meat are offended by your views they can simply choose not to come read questions/comments posted here. I would think it was rude to go in say the general food category and start calling people the devil , lol, or just harping on them for their personal choices. Just like I think its rude to be eating hummus on a lunch break and a coworker unprovoked taunting me about how I need to eat meat..Oh yah, similiar to the trolls in this specific forum , that has no place posting off topic comments on this specific board. So on, so forth...
I certainly think you can love animals and still eat meat...because the animals that these people love and are speaking of are ones such as their pets. I dont doubt that they love their own pets. I don't doubt that they feel they love all animals. and I believe if most people spent time in a setting where they can see the actual abuse that goes on, or the proccess in which their meat was made, they would feel differently. Unfortunately alot of people honestly believe that how it is done is how it was meant to be and won't accept the fact that there is indeed cruelty involved. Whether they choose to believe or not is actually irrelevant, because it is simply..fact. Not fiction, not propoganda. All it takes is a little research and an open mind to find this out.
You can tell people the truth, but you shouldn't push it on people or force them. Everyone has different opinions and beliefs some people will agree others won't. I don't agree that you can't love and animals and eat them. I have been thinking of becoming a vegetarian for a while and slowly cutting down meat, although I'm still going over things like how to give my body proteins, that humans have canine teeth and animals eat each other etc, but also I see an animal alive and moving around and feel it's wrong to take that animals life away. I love my cat very much and I eat meat so does she. So think it's possible to love animals and eat meat.
it's never wrong to tell the truth, unless you're telling the truth with the goal of hurting someone, but i don't think that's what you're trying to do.
however, i disagree with you about eating & loving animals. i LOVE animals! but i believe that God gave us dominion over ALL the animals. i don't think it's right to hunt for sport and not even eat the meat-just hunting to kill the biggest buck, etc. that's wrong because God gave us the right to kill animals for the purpose of food. i don't think it's wrong to hunt for sport if you're not going to waste it. my dad and his friends all go hunting together for fun, trying to get a nice, big buck, but we don't waste any of the meat. they hunt around thanksgiving and our families all get together to cut up the meat and freeze it. i've done this ever since i was little. it doesn't bother me to see/eat the meat. seeing the dead deer doesn't bother me. and i can look at a live deer and think "oh, it's so beautiful." i don't think i'll ever hunt really, but i think i would be able to kill a deer if i wanted. one of my friends said she'd never be able to kill an animal, but she'll eat the meat just fine, but that's because she wasn't raised around any hunters really. but it is possible to love animals and eat them. i know because i do. it's fine if you don't want to eat animals-it doesn't bother me, but i don't think i could live without meat. you have no proof that it's not possible to do so. and it's not like i'm eating MY dog, or ANY dog for that matter. i don't have a pet deer, so...i have no problem eating them (or other types of meat).
and how do you feel about animals eating other animals? they don't really think about it. it's just what came naturally to them. it's the instinct that God gave them. they eat to survive. some have to die so others can live. it's just the way God made life.
hey its great that you love animals I do too,
but I love them on a plate as well.
Just like a lion likes nothing better than a nice antelope sandwich
No way! It's wrong to stay silent about it.
Animals with no voice are suffering, and they need us to speak for them.
And I completely agree that you can't love animals and eat them.
Anyways, keep speaking for those who can't : ]
are you telling me that I hate my beautiful mowmow & handsome norman (cat-dog) because I ate some pepproni for dinner?are you judging me?I didnt judge you.thats great u dont eat meat...just not for me...I love animals But it is the food chain...The reason we can kill deer ,for example,is to keep the population down.They are mean & destructive.Pretty yes,but ever hit a deer in your car?It can kill you .Not a good thought.I think it is wrong to hurt animals ,however ,unless you are using for food.Wrong to fight a pit.Wrong to kill a bird for the heck of it.Very wrong to do these things....but to get your nutrients & continue the "cycle"...thats life...... :)
Well i totally love animals and think they are better than humans but i also dont condemn people who eat meat as i do myself.
I wouldnt say that because i eat meat i dont love animals that would be false.
As for telling the truth there is nothing wrong with the truth i think you should be able to speak your mind as others here do too!
Animal cruelty to me is beating an animal, not feeding an animal, letting a wounded animal suffer instead of helping.All those things are animal cruelty and i totally dont support that but you neid to have protein as well as vegetables to be healthy as a human.its all part of a balance.
According to doctors vegetarians lack some vitamins and essential things that meat supplies and so i feel there is a reason for it. Even in bible times meat was eaten and God was not against it.
Speak your mind though by all means !! Dont let anyone distract you or make you feel bad. I mean the people who put in stupid things in here they dont care so why should you!!
You go girl!!
I'm totally with you about animal cruelty. I'm so sick of meat eater's comments about how humans are omnivores, the bible says to do it, etc. These are actually untrue ignorant beliefs that I myself once used as an excuse to not think about reality. However, "preaching" to people practically never works and can be counterproductive to the cause ya know what I mean? If someone is ready to hear something, they will ask, otherwise your precious knowlegde falls on deaf ears. Basically your job is to lead by example and if people ask, tell em otherwise stay on the DL. People will like you better and respect you more. Try not to let the mean answers bother you. Peace and love for all. Hatred for none!
PS It is my personal belief that when people consume flesh they are also ingesting fear which creates negative thought patterns and makes people inclined to feel fear. I've noticed that our culture is way into fear. ie: fear of accidents, fear of identity theft, fear of rape, fear of poverty, fear of terrorists, etc...People's lives are largely driven by these fears. They are constantly trying to protect themselves from bad things happening to them. crazy.
PS I think Jesus was a lacto-vegetarian who ate a lot of raw foods and taught fasting and cleansing as a means of healing. I think they added in that stuff about meat way later.
We Vegetarians and Vegans are often picked on by meat eaters. We can't expect meat eaters to understand us cause they eat meat which is a dead thing.. thereby making them dead in the mind. It's not wrong to tell the truth! Remember what God said in the bible: Give not pearls of wisdom unto swine for they shall surely muddy the waters thereof! God may have been referring to meat eaters calling them swine. Even Noah had problem with meat eaters..
Noah could only find one Unicorn.. the meat eaters killed it
they didn't want to eat veggies they disobeyed Noahs order not to eat the meat.. Noah said it was Gods order! If your bible is translated by a meat eater all that is changed around!
Even Gensis 1:29 is different wording when the bible is translated by a meat eater. I have 3 different Kings James Version bibles and each is slightly different in wording in Gensis, Exodus and a few other places. I agree with most of
what you say about animals! You're right have you ever heard of a meat eater getting attached to a cow or a pig and petting it? I bet not.. I sure haven't! The only time meat eating be okay according to God is when there is no veggies
available and no fruits available when absolutely nothing else is available. Even in the desert.. you find cactus and they are edible! Sure they don't taste great it's survival food!
We are suppose to be guardians of the Earth to protect it and the animals too! Most meat eaters I have seen are riddled with colds, flus, diseases. I rarely see a sick Vegetarian and rarely see any sick Vegans. I flag meat eaters if they put down vegetarians or vegans! All we vegetarians and vegans should do so.. So what if the meat eaters start flagging us.. we speak the truth the meat eaters are dead in the mind cause they eat death! You are what U eat? I'd rather be a veggie than be death! Oh meat eaters might mention part of the bible that we were given dominant over animals and every thing on the earth that creepeth.. They'll coveniently leave out to protect and be guardian too!
I once had a pet cow. Betsy sure helped me moving the wagon of manure that was going to be dehydrated and sold for lawn fertilizier. That's what those cows on that farm were for.. No on My Aunt Diane Z. Gladdis's farm would ever think of eating meat. This changed when her husband Dave divorced her and took off to Hollywood! She married the first Male that helped her look after the farm as she couldn't do it alone.. unfortunately it was a guy who ate meat. She still vegetarian but her current husband Gus isn't! I hear her husband has to cook is own meals if he wants to eat meat!
There's plenty of protein in beans, seeds, broccoli, much more than found in dead meat. Meat eaters deny anything about protein being in meat cause as I send before they are dead in mind cause they eat something that's dead. Beets have plenty of Iron and so does spinach! All those orange veggies are loaded with protein. Meat eaters are in denial
They should go to Food and drink to post their views and not bug us Vegetarians or Vegans!
most vegies i know are skinny. If we didn't eat meat their would be less fat poeple. Personal trainers would be out of work, liposuctionists, doctors, dietatrionists, and many more would be out of work to keep you happy!
I learned a long time ago that you can not convert people to your and my way of thinking on this.
People have their preconceptions and yes I believe their misconceptions but do not waste your breath trying to change these peoples views on this.
For those people who are interested or wish to hear the reasons for our belief's then that is a totally different matter and we should do our best to educate them in the cruelty of modern farming and in particular the meat industry.
This does not mean though that we should not join in the debate. A good debate is refreshing and some people may actually have an open mind and take on board some of your points, as you should not be afraid to do also.
So just a note to correct some of the answers that have given previously. Vegetarianism is not about not eating your bunny for survival if marooned on a desert island. Its about the cruelty, pain and suffering that we (and I don't include myself in the "we") inflict on animals in the name of putting chicken on your plate, beef in your burger, fish with your chips.
If you are interested then I urge you to research this on matter on the net. There is a wealth of information. Get the facts and then make your mind up. You never know people you may come to the same conclusion that I, the question raiser and many millions of people came to and sleep easier in your bed knowing that you do not contribute to the agony and suffering that is routinely carried out in your name.
Only for those that are interested here is a starter: (Parental guidance recommended etc etc.) Paste these into a new browser window sit back and watch....then tell us that its right!
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?...
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?...
what do you make of animal that kill other animals and eat them-how dare they!!!!!!!!!
No Human or Animal should be treated cruelly but Its up to the individual if they eat meat or not
Oh Ashley,
Dose this mean you plan to take your own name and report your self.
Please speak the truth through your Answers and not by your Questions you will gain far more respect this way. but as your past questions show you are the biggest violator on here it's almost as if you like winding people up!! some what like this troll thing.
I do eat meat and really enjoy this but I HATE animal cruelty for me these are two different subjects.
Being killed for meat in most countries is done in a very humane way and not a form of Cruelty, now people who deliberately harm animals pets etc are the real scum and should have longer and more severe sentences.
Nature is nature and thats it, good luck on your quest rest assured you will not change anyones opinion in fact by your actions and words you will make more people determined to eat more meat.
You are doing more damage than good but I think this is what you are after.
I will say this, your style of questioning has improved so maybe there is hope for you after all.
Oh and Ashley I have given you a chance to get your point/view/opinion across on previous Question please give it a go if you truly belive in what you are saying.
You can't push your views onto people. It just pushes them further away. People don't like to be told what to think.
And you can love animals and still eat them, I loved animals long before I became vegetarian. Do you think all vets are vegetarians? Or everyone who works for the RSPCA are vegetarians, or those who give money to animal charities are vegetarians?
hey!
speak the truth I'm an animal lover and i also speak the truth if people cant handle that tough on them animals are innocent they cannot speak and therefore no1 here's them crying out for help we need to stop animal cruelty not ignore it please Carie on telling the truth dont lie coz animal cruelty exists.
Sarah x
it is not wrong, an unspoken truth that you are aware of should be spread! your not preaching, your just trying to get people to realize something they would probably rather ignore and pretend like isnt there.