Vegan logic?!
Answers: I don't understand what is so horrible about eating an egg if the chicken lives on an open farm with a nice shelter and food it'd naturally eat in the wild. Can someone explain it to me?
It's great you have a pet chicken and if you are not going to put the hen down when she's started to produce fewer eggs, then that's fine. However, in all egg farms including organic and free range ones, hens are slaughtered before the age of 5 because of lower egg production. Their flesh by this time is too old to be sold as chicken meat so they are made into chicken stock cubes. So they are deprived of the right to live and die naturally.
Secondly, all egg farms including free range and organic ones, they need to keep hatching baby chicks to replace those slaughtered before the age of 5, naturally you would expect around half of the chicks hatched to be male and because they will not grow to become egg-producing hens, they are crushed to death at birth without any being stunned first. Being crushed alive even when the chick's just one day old should be considered cruel. Don't you agree? And this happens in organic and free range farms as well.
But if you don't do any of the above that all farms do, then no one should have any problem with you consuming the eggs of your pet hen.
Who told you that eggs usually come from chickens on a happy, shiny fantasy farm?
http://www.factoryfarming.org/gallery/ph...
If you know someone that has happy hens that don't care if their eggs are taken, that's great.
If not, you have no idea what kind of life the birds live no matter how many nice phrases are on the carton.
I feel no need to eat something from an animal even if I know someone with the happiest chickens on the planet.
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I don't know of any vegan people that would tell you that you are a bad person for eating your chicken's eggs. That doesn't mean that we have to believe in eating them ourselves.
its not about the place,,the principle is not to eat animal products
maybe not everyone finds it "horrible" like you think.
it could be that its just what they prefer, and an egg still comes from an animal, and part of a being a vegan is that you dont eat anything from an animal.
my brothers gf is vegan, and she has a ton of really yummy recipes.
she is one by choice, but she isnt bothered by other ppl eating meat, so why should we be bothered with her not?
more animals for you i guess..
haha
do you REALLY think thats what its like, have you even seen the film chicken run?
heres a BBC news report on it...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/southwest...
It's the conditions that the chickens are kept in to produce the eggs.
They are crammed into small, wirey cages, they are pumped up with antibiotics, malnourished, and often they get their wings caught in the cages and suffer.
Now if they are free range, organic chickens, then I'm on your side and don't really see the logic. Free range, organic chickens, as you said, live on an open farm with nice shelter, and natural food... and they're not pumped with antibiotics.
I think it's just the principle of the thing.
Yeah... honestly, I have no idea. I don't see a problem with eating the eggs of free range, organic chickens.
Then again, I'm not a vegan or a vegetarian so I may never know.
If everyone did not eggs, millions of chickens would be killed because there would be no use for them.
If the chicken is raised for commercially selling eggs then the process will require many cockerals to be killed once they are sexed - thats one issue.
Generally though the vegan values include not using any animal product.. Its to do with exploitation, not how well animals are kept.
Commercial free range hens are not reared on a nice farm that you see on jigsaw puzzles. Free range is a joke, its nothing more that outdoor caged areas. I see Sainsbury's Free range egg supplier barns first hand. You could not walk across the "free range" cage because of the density of hens.
If you care about animals, buy your eggs from a small or hobby farm where you can actually see the hens.
It is their logic and whether you agree or disagree, it makes sense to them so they do what they think is best..if they don't bother you, don't bother them
As I've previously pointed out, "battery" chickens seem o be awestern pehnomena. Where I get my eggs, the henhouse is cleaner than an operating room and everyone, even the owner, who wants access has to go through a sanitation procedure. the hens are not crowded, they get adequate sunlight, vet services and room to move around. No chickens are actually sold for meat but instead used in breeding programs.
Eat it, absolutely no problem,coz no one doesn't want to eat a CHICKEEEEAAAAN!!!!
HA HA HA HA!!!!
I don't see anything wrong with it I use to eat eggs from my exs familys chickens they use to run around and be fed the were pets so I see nothing worng with it unless the eggs are cages and the chickens are abused
I don't know what the problem is either. I'm a vegan and enjoy eggs in moderation. Eggs are good and good for you.
Even if the hen does live in an open farm and leads a happy life which is EXTREMELY uncommon, male chicks are considered useless and so while that hen might now be leading a happy life, her brothers were most probably killed at birth and any male chicks she herself produces will also be killed. Unless this hen is a well loved pet then, even on a truly free range open farm, her egg production will dwindle over time and if this is a business, she won't be seen as profitable and will be slaughtered for her meat. Even if she is a pet, lives to old age and doesn't get eaten then I still wouldn't want to support the egg industry which kills male chicks by buying a female hen from them. The only time I'd ever even consider eating an egg is if it was from a rescued battery farm hen (http://www.bhwt.co.uk)... I wouldn't see a problem in people eating these eggs but personally I wouldn't want to benefit from something that's been the cause of my pet hen's misery. I'd want to keep her solely as a pet and not an egg producing machine. I also have no desire to eat eggs, don't see them as healthy and don't consider them as a food option for me anymore.
food is a gift...there are no vegans in the slums of mexico...nobody is lactose intolerant in the starving african communities......only in America do we complain about every little thing...eat your eggs baby..it'll be ok!
On the rare instances that I agree to make something that requires eggs, I drive to my friend's hobby farm where her chickens roam the property and are treated like pets.
Those "TRUE" free range eggs are different from anything you'll get in a grocery store. The yold is deep goldenrod - almost orange, and the albumen is firm and stands up.
I wish there were more true "happy chickens" You can find them if you look hard enough. I have chosen not to eat eggs myself because of the deplorable conditions employed by factory farming, but I believe that eating eggs from your own, well-cared for chickens is moral and ethical.
Namaste.
i agree. i think that if you dont want to eat eggs because of the conditions animals are kept in, fair enough, same with cheese etc. but free range eggs, especially if you go to a farm and see the chickens wandering about, are absolutely fine.
however, people do just find it strange-no other animal eats another animals eggs. people dont like the thought of eating something froma chickens bum, etc lol
its just personal opinion :)
Well, there's the high cholesterol.
As a vegan, I don't see how having eggs in your diet is necessary.
And I don't like the taste or texture.
I also don't promote consuming eating the egg of another animal, doen't matter if it was happy or not, they didn't lay the egg for my consumption.
I used to eat eggs from my pet chickens. They were treated much like my pet dog (except they didn't live in the house). They learned tricks and went outside in the sun and were allowed to forage for bugs and grass and stuff while still being offered grain. (i don't anymore because my chickens died). So i don't think its horrible. But some vegans don't believe in pets.
The thing is as you've read from other answerers, most eggs from the grocery store come from factory farms. :(