If you eat meat,do you go for free range,?!
money?
and do you give any thought to what the poor animals suffer?
If people could just pay a bit more,for food that is produced in humane conditions would there be an end to animals suffering,in terms of for meat?
Answers: if you eat meat,and dont go for free range,or organic-why??
money?
and do you give any thought to what the poor animals suffer?
If people could just pay a bit more,for food that is produced in humane conditions would there be an end to animals suffering,in terms of for meat?
Always buy free range, organic meats and naturally nested, organic chicken eggs. I also insist on buying from local small farms which I have visited to ensure to my satisfaction that the animals are well taken care of without crowding and cruelty.
For instance, the ranch where I buy my organic, free range beef only raises 100 steers at a time on 300 acres of land.
All my dairy products are organic from a local dairy that I have visited many times. They even play classical music for the cows while they're being milked and the cows sway back and forth to Mozart. It's really sweet.
Of course, I live in Oregon and we do a lot of things a little differently out here and always have.
For years I have raised chickens for eggs. They are too old to produce anymore, but they can run around and eat bugs and hide from raptors and roll in the dust.
It seems like there is a big movement to support raising animals free range. It's great! It adds so much to their well being. It does make for healthier meats and dairy products.
I can't afford free-range or organic so only buy it when it's on offer
i do prefer free range and organic, however dont belive that is what you are always getting, i worked in a meat processing factory for alot of years that is owned by a well known supermarket and we done alot of organic products but when we run out of organic meat and had an order to get done we would use normal meat and pack it as organic, so you dont really know what you are eating unless you see it killed, processed and packed for yourself.
Free range shark!
To be honest I don't go out and buy meat myself if I'm cooking at home if I do eat meat its rather from the universitys canteen or from a pre-packed food.
I don't eat meat, but my boyfriend does. We try to buy the organic and free range if we can.
I don't buy meat from the supermarket if that's what you mean. I buy from local suppliers and on-line. Same with eggs.
Sorry but i go for the best deal I can get in the super market. Of course I would love it if I could be sure that every animal that I eat had a smile on its face before it was shot in the head. But worrying about such things is a luxury that not everyone can afford. When I shop I have the same set of priorities as most people. I have to get as many meals in my trolley, of the best quality as I can manage for my budget.
Unfortunately happy animals come at a price. I can feed myself and my little family for a week or more on pissed off animals, or about 3 days on organic food for the same money. For me shopping is about economics. Not worrying about whether an animal was raised in a field or a barn. Sorry thumbs downers, but I have to put my family before the plight of the animals.
EDIT. Mike H: Dont presume to tell me what I can and cant afford to buy in the super market. Yes I make the choice to buy meat. Why? Because I have been brought up eating meat, I enjoy it, and contrary to many peoples ramblings about meat eaters beng unhealthy fat slobs, I am in great health. (in fact the only time my blood pressure rises is when I read one of your smug sanctamonious answers). My average pay cheque wont stretch to prime cuts of Organically reared meat week in week out. So I buy the best that I can.
I work hard, so why shouldnt I put food in my trolley that I actually enjoy and is good for me rather than fill it with tofu or quorn or f*cking lentils or whatever else you live on.
I don't eat meat but my husband does. I've been trying to persuade him to give it up but hasn't worked yet. The only kind of meat that we have ever had in our home is fresh deli meats or pre-packaged deli meats. Are there deli meats that are labeled as free range? That's the only kind of meat my husband eats at home. He only eats chicken, etc. when we *go out* to eat.
At one time I heard that free range was good but now they're saying different. In my opinion it is more expensive but it is definitely better than factory farmed meat because it's an atrocity what animals go through. If people are concerned about animal suffering, then yes, I think they should buy free range/organic products - if financially possible.
I would like to eat free range organic meat, but cost is an issue. The meat itself is just fine, a little tastier than non-organic, yet a little tougher too. And there is not guarantee that what is packaged as organic/free range is actually organic/free range.
I don't think its as much of an issue with beef. I can't see cattle being kept in the conditions that chickens are. I admit that I don't like the idea of all those hormones and antibiotics in my meat.
I'd like to eat more game - it is free of the contaminants that farm grown meat has, but I am not a hunter so that is a problem.
I don't bother. I make my selections on price and taste.
free range and orgainc are marketing BS, especially when it comes to chicken.
I don't give any thought to the animals who suffer, execpt when I buy veal. The animal is dying to feed me anyway, so why should I care if it suffers? It's not a human.
well, free range can mean that instead of in a tiny cage, they get to stand on a cold factory floor without enough food and water. and they are jammed in there; being there is so many of the animals
The common perception of “free-range” farms as idyllic places where pigs relax in mud baths, chickens strut about, and cows graze leisurely in lush green pastures while their calves romp playfully, is a myth.
“Free range,” is a term very loosely defined as coming from animals who ate grass and lived on a range. There's no actual inspection system in place to verify that those farms claiming to be “free-range” truly are.
Even when "free-range" cows, sheep, and pigs are allowed to live outdoors they're still subjected to mutilations such as castration, branding and tail-docking, and sent off to the slaughterhouses at a young age once their “productivity” wanes.
They're also still killed in the same violent ways as factory-farmed animals: pushed through narrow chutes, hung upside down on conveyor belts, and having their throats slit. Some are even dismembered while still fully conscious.
I wouldn't exactly call that "humane".
Dr. Charles Olentine, editor of industry trade journal Egg Industry, probably put it best: “Just because it says free-range does not mean that it is welfare-friendly.”
I don't agree that "worrying about such things is a luxury that not everyone can afford".
Its not that you CANNOT afford cruelty free, its that you CHOOSE not to. When you cannot afford organic meat a vegetarian diet would be much cheaper than a cage-reared beef diet. You are not forced to buy the meat, you CHOOSE to.
I don't really think you can ask this question in terms of "if people paid more would there be an end to suffering".
How would you define "suffering" ? I bet the cow would include "death" in that definition. Suffering and meat go hand in hand, its pretty pointless to deny it really.
Not saying people shouldn't eat meat, they can do what they like, but I do think you cannot exclude "death" as being suffering and people need to be honest with themselves and either accept "animals suffer for my choices" or stop eating the stuff. Denial is not an answer.
Sorry to break it to you "mollyflan", but cows swing backwards and forwards for 2 reasons - (1) adjusting thier weight as they are bred too heavy for thier bone structure - lameness in dairy cows is a known issue due to the excessive protiens they are fed to rasie milk yield and (2) its a sign of lack of stimulus ( proven by the research that ended in the ban of zoos keeping large territory animals such as polar bears).
We have cows, they don't dance
The new milk quota targets are setting milk yields at 15 Tonnes per cow for 2009. Currently it is set at 10 Tonnes. The cows natural production is 1 Tonne. I don't think thats "sweet" at all. I think its another example of mans astounding ability to selfishly exploit all that surrounds him
One never really knows what one is paying 25%-50% more just because of a label, unless you go right to the source. One very successful person I know buys poultry . . . ships it to her processing plant . . . has the poultry "walk" between the delivery trucks and the processing plant and claims "free range". A quirk in the regulations allows her to claim that label. She's a fabulously wealthy "vegan of convenience" and well-known on the veggie lecture circuit and seminars.
BTW ... NOTE THE FOLLOWING QUOTE: "I do think you cannot exclude "death" as being suffering and people need to be honest with themselves and either accept "animals suffer for my choices"
----Choices made by the moral fraud who said this to sell 3000 bales of his hay to fatten cattled to be killed at the slaughter house, or verbally abused an industrious young vegan for working at a McDonald's, or to kill and eat his own chickens. Such hypocrisy has no place in any V&V discussion.
Not unless I pick it up myself. Otherwise I don't know what it is.
Not been around here long, but I have to say, it seems abominable for this Mike guy to be BS'ing about animal suffering and when he's guilty as can be in supporting the meat processing industry. From my over 50 years experience as an attorney, it's the way a sociopath/criminal thinks.
I'm not sure
Free range = "Lazy Farmers". Just an excuse to give more money to lazy farmers who don't like to work while hardworking farmers take FAIR and less than fair prices for their products.
Mike H. makes us all suffer with his crap about "animal cruelty" while he's selling hay to those who cruelly send poor, screaming animals to their untimely death.
I didn't know he eats his chickens too!!!! LOL. What a "tool".
I prefer free range organic but it's often so expensive that I don't buy it unless it's on sale. However we eat a lot of venison and use it in place of beef in a lot of recipes. Now THAT is free-range organic.
I think you posted this question in the wrong section. This is vegetarian and vegan. None of us eat meat here.