I liked the question below about killing your meat. Would ethical vegitarians and vegans be happier if anyone?!


Question: who wanted to eat meat, had to raise and kill it themselves. If it actually came down to legislation some day and vegetarians had the opportunity to have a bill passed, would this satisfy some of them (i.e.: anyone wanting meat for themselves and their family must raise said livestock under certain conditions and slaughter under certain conditions.)?


Answers: who wanted to eat meat, had to raise and kill it themselves. If it actually came down to legislation some day and vegetarians had the opportunity to have a bill passed, would this satisfy some of them (i.e.: anyone wanting meat for themselves and their family must raise said livestock under certain conditions and slaughter under certain conditions.)?

You are presumptious of the fact that anything will satisfy a vegan..

Such a law should have a reciprocal portion for vegetarians/vegans. They can only eat what they plant or forage for themselves. If they want tofu, then they should plant the soybeans and harvest it, clean it, soak i in water then milk and cook it up themselves. If they want veggies, then plant and harvest them. No supermarket with shelves upon shelves of fresh produce. if you want to eat, then start from scratch. As one put it awhile back, seeds are cheap (but land is not). Remember that laws should be applicable to all or none at all.

I hold the view- that you should only be eating meat if you are happy with the idea or raising, killing and preparing your animals. I know obviously thats not possible in the world today, BUT you should at least be able to say that in your heart of hearts you are happy with how the meat you eat comes about.

No, it will not satisfy them.

I would not like that at all. I'm a vegetarian because I don't want animals to suffer of get killed at all.

I'm on the fence. If we eliminated factory farms, and switched to purely pasture-raised and hand-killed animals, people might be forced to eat less meat as it takes up far more space than industrial farms (I mean, that's why they put them in battery cages or tie them into the pens). Then again, we might just see lots of vegetable farmland converted into pastureland to make up for the industrial farms. Also, pasture raised cattle, per head, create more methane, and I would have ethical concerns with worsening global warming.

Urban or no, if you want to eat meat, you should go and kill it at least once, just to understand the gravitas of the act.

I'd be happier with legislative standards that required no mutilation of animals while not anaesthetized; no beak burning; a reasonable ratio for cage size to body size, enough so that animals can walk; and no antibiotics or hormones.

meat is murder there isnt really any debate

No. It wouldn't make me happier. Killing an animal is killing an animal, no matter who kills it. I'm against it in slaughterhouses and I'd also be against it on personal farms.

Seems you don't understand the premise of being a vegan or vegetarian even. It's not the matter of all the animal factories and abusive standards in which animals are treated that causes.. well at least that caused me to go vegan. A lot of talk about all of that goes on but the reason I decided to commit to a vegan lifestyle was because of the ending of another animals life is totally unnecessary.
I feel that we shouldn't end another animals life just to use them as food for ourselves! When we have all the food we need and beyond with beans, nuts, fruits, grains, vegetables, spices, herbs, and more..
Plus on top of that, many studies have been done showing how having a diet with meat can cause numerous diseases (which if you seriously think about it, makes sense!).
Then if you look into all the resources it takes to raise all these animals compared to if we ate everything but meat. The list goes on and on with all the benefits of everyone going vegan!

But back to the question you asked. I think many people wouldn't be able to kill their own animals with how us as a society has become. Many people prefer to be blind to what happens behind the scenes, so to say. They rather not take responsibility of what happens in the world around them and go on doing what other's have done in the past, instead of truly thinking about the effects of the choices they make.

In the end.. killing is killing, no matter if done in a animal factory or by someone's own hands.

Frankly this would never happen so the question is moot. However I personally would never go back to eating meat. I think it would be better then the factory farms but it would still be breeding animals to use and then kill. And exactly who would set the regulations on how they are treated and killed? I don't see how it would be much better then the standards they have now.





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