I am confused about organic?!?!
HELP?!
Answers: Is organic products better for you? When buying organic products does that actually support the meat industry? I had the impression organic meant it was not grown with fertilizers and other chemicals. For example, organic milk, i thought that meant as the animal was not given hormones, etc. I am trying to become vegan but i am terribly confused about what i can and can't eat! Or more of thinking a product is vegan and it is not!
HELP?!
people often get vegan and vegetarian mixed up a vegetarian eats no meat but eats animal bi-products such as milk, cheese, ice cream that sort of thing.
when youre vegan you do not eat meat, you do not eat yogurt, any product containing milk, milk, cheese, ice cream, that sort of thing some vegans even go as far as not wearing animals. such as leather boots and leather gloves or that sort of thing.
as far as organic and un-organic. oragnic is when you raise a plant and/or animal in a way that it is not altered its basically raised in its natural state in other words not given any steroids or processed additives or chemicals or sprayed with any pesticide or any of that.
unorganic FRUITS for example are slightly cheaper however they need to be washed more than thuroughly due to the pesticides and bacterias that are left on them from the growing process where as oragnic you dont need to stress about that so much because there were no pesticides and/or chemicals put on that particular item to enhance its flavor or protect it from bugs. HOWEVER oragnic fruits are not attacked by bugs either due to the process at which it is grown. as unoragnic farmers grow in the same spot every single time organic farmers do not to prevent bugs form coming. its quit simple.
First you need to understand what a Vegan is as opposed to a Vegitarian. A Vegan will eat NO MEAT OR DAIRY. That means no cheese eggs butter sour cream icecream and other products that contain this (cake cookies....). A Vegetarian will consume products that contain eggs butter milk etc....
Now if you want to understand what Organic is check out this site:
http://www.ams.usda.gov/nop/Consumers/br...
I can only comment on organic produce, not meats. Organic produce, on the commercial level, uses products made from rendered animal parts and manure as their fertilizers and pesticides. The rendering plants purchase the leftover carcasses of meat animals from meat processing plants. The meat processing plants also sell the manure. This is added to the meat industry's profits.
Organic certainly doesn't mean, stick a seed in the ground and hope for the best.
A quote from jstjen's link--"Organic food is produced without using most conventional pesticides; fertilizers made with synthetic ingredients or sewage sludge; bioengineering; or ionizing radiation."-----as I said, they use rendered animal part products and manure.
You've already got my link so I won't post it again.
I am a small farmer. We raise EVERYTHING organically on our farm.
To raise things with organic growing methods, you need to use animal manure.
If you are trying to become a vegan, you cannot in good conciousness eat organic foods. You MUST eat products grown with chemical fertilizers. Chemical fertilizers come from oil. So as a vegan you get to instead support the oil industry.
Here's how it works on my farm. I raise meat goats, and meat rabbits. The animals produce manure. The manure is spread on the fields to fertilize their grazing pasture, as well as the crops, like their hay.
We also keep worm bins under the bunny hutches. Worm castings, and bunny manure is used in our garden to fertilize our fruits, vegtables and herbs. We also of course consume the flesh of the goats and rabbits.
We allow NO chemical fertilizers, nor chemical insecticides on our farm. We do not use the chemical fertilizers, because we do not care to support big oil, nor do we feel it is right to do things in a way nature did not intend. Nature wants the crops to be fertilized by manure, NOT salt ladened chemical fertilizers. So we do things in one big, well balanced permaculture farming way. Everything in balance, and everything nice and healthy, from plants to animals.
To be a true vegan, you cannot support farms that do things in nice healthy, natural ways...ways that are very friendly to the eco system.
Instead you need to consume fruits, vegtables and herbs grown with chemicals in totally un-natural ways. Of course as a true vegan, who's really concerned about animals, you need to not buy anything exotic...like a papaya, brazil nuts, bannana, ect. Nothing that is grown in a tropical environment. Tropical plantations (farms) are really well known for killing scads of fruit eating birds and bats, as well as killing any snake on site.
Organic means it was not grown with chemical fertilizers, nor chemical pesticides if it is a plant crop, in other words it was grown with manure, with more natural insect control/prevention.
If it is an animal crop, it means no hormones, no feeds that were grown with chemical pesticides or fertilizers, no steroids, and no antibiotics, and limits on types of wormers you can use on the animals.
~Garnet
Homesteading/Farming over 20 years
Organic means no (or limited) chemical pesticides or fertilizers, growth hormones, or genetic modification.
Whether it is better for your health or not is a matter of debate. But organic vs. conventional farming has absolutely nothing to do with vegetarian/vegan. Pesticides are not meat.
Well, animal milk is not in a vegan diet. Organic milk means the cows were not treated with growth hormone. Horizon brand claims to be that. Other organic foods simply don't have pesticides and other bad things. However, manufacturers try to trick the consumer with their wording on packages. Try to buy local organic fruits and veges as they are more likely to be telling the truth.
As for vegans, they eat no animal flesh and no animal bi-products including honey, marshmallows and Worcestershire sauce.
Yes, as some have mentioned, it boils down to which industry you want to support - animal (meat/dairy) or oil? Note that organic farming still depends on the oil industry, but in other ways.