Why cant vegans eat honey?!


Question: i am a vegan, i dont eat honey because its not vegan, but i want to know why exactly?

since its not coming out of the bee why is it bad?
and bees make honey anyway, so why not?


Answers: i am a vegan, i dont eat honey because its not vegan, but i want to know why exactly?

since its not coming out of the bee why is it bad?
and bees make honey anyway, so why not?

*** PALEOLITHIC DIET : Don't eat humans. That shouldn't be too hard to do, as it's illegal anyway. Most everyone follows this standard without giving it any thought.

*** OMNIVOROUS : Don't eat primates. Well, most Westerners don't do this, but some people eat monkeys and even Chimpanzees. I'm hoping you don't.

*** Don't eat any mammals, as they are very closely-related to humans. Also, mammals experience a broad range of feeling and many are quite intelligent. Despite the derogatory connotations associated with their name, pigs are some of the most intelligent animals on this planet.

*** Don't eat any vertebrates because they experience high-order pain and other nervous responses in basically the same way that humans do. Some of them are quite intelligent, too.

*** VEGETARIAN : Don't eat any animals (Vegetarian, a.k.a. Ovo-Lacto Vegetarian). This is one of the least arbitrary standards, as there's a fairly clear line between animals and non-animals. All animals are sensate, react to pain, and are arguably a higher form of life than plants, fungi, etc.. Even some invertebrate animals, such as octopuses, can be extremely intelligent.

*** VEGAN : Don't eat any animals or animal products. This is also very un-arbitrary. Products such as milk and eggs come from enslaving animals in sometimes horrendous conditions. It makes sense that if you're trying not to kill animals, you also should try to avoid inflicting other forms of violence on them. “No” to any type of product derived from animals, including fur, leather and honey.

*** RAW-FOODIST : Don't eat things which result in animal death when they are harvested. Mass-harvesting of grains, for example, causes the deaths of many creatures, including a variety of mammals, which are caught in the farm equipment. Meeting this standard is extremely difficult in modern societies as it basically requires that you eat only food you grow yourself or that come from a source you know to be safe. Over time, this may become more feasible. Consider however, that eating only meat certainly wouldn't help prevent animal deaths from grain harvesting. Meat animals eat huge quantities of harvested grain, and they also displace enormous numbers of animals from their natural habitats.

*** FRUITORIAN : Don't eat anything that is killed to become food - It may be possible to live without eating any dead things, including plants. Eating things such as nuts, fruits, and many vegetables does not directly cause any deaths. Personally, I see this as a somewhat unreasonable standard both because it sounds nutritionally near-impossible and because just taking a shower causes the deaths of countless microorganisms. I don't think it's reasonable to expect to be a human being and not cause some other things to die... I only look to minimize it. However, if you think you can live a Fruitarian life, more power to you.

*** BREATHARIAN : Don't eat the products of any living thing - I'm pretty sure this is impossible (at least in today's society), because it doesn't leave much to eat besides salt. However, it may be possible in the future that we could grow our food in enclosed environments (thus avoiding killing animals during harvesting), and that that food could be replicated through advanced cloning techniques, thus meeting at least the Fruitarian standard of not causing deaths. Right now, I'm not going to worry about it... but it is something to think about for the future.

In all of the above definitions, understand that not eating something also refers to not using it. Non-cannibals generally don't use human skin for ornamentation, and vegetarians generally avoid leather.

Or at least, it is reasonable to assume that people who are willing to consider the moral consequences of killing animals are more likely to restrain from violence against other human beings if at all possible.

Conclusion – Vegetarianism or veganism never stop at eating habit alone, but a “journey” beyond - Philosophy and way of life.

because they are crazies.

you are robbing the bee of its food...

it is a little cruel have you not seen the bee movie

Honey DOES come out of bees. A honeycomb is just storage. Since bees are insects, not plants, it's verboten for ethical vegans. (I rather doubt there's any health issues with honey, it's just "It's not a plant!" issues.)

Vegans could happily eat the nectar that bees make it from, since that's produced by plants, but it would take something like a bee to collect that tiny fraction from each flower to combine enough to make enough for a human to notice.

i know it does come from the bee.
so it is still an animal product.

bees dont have little pots and spoons over camp fires to make honey, they collect the nectar in their bodies and then put it in the honey comb to finish the product.
So technically it is an animal product.

it comes from an animal (bees) so technically you shouldnt eat it.

Cause the bee did all the freaking work to get you your honey!

mmmm bee puke

I don't suppose why not, it's not hurting the bees,they make it naturally. And they don't die from making it either... LOL, silly,but maybe they feel it is as if the bees are our slaves...?
That's the only thing I can think of...

Veganism is a personal choice not a religion, some vegans eat honey and some don't. Bees make honey for bees, not for us, so what we're doing is stealing from them and a lot of bees are killed in the process of collecting honey.

Hmm, I will have to research that one. Chances are the answer lies in the definition of a Vegan.
Vegan, pronounced, (vgn, vjn), is a vegetarian who eats plant products only. To practice veganism includes not wearing or consuming anything that comes from an animal. Example milk comes from cows Honey comes from bees.
Bees are in the phylum Arthropoda family, the same family as crabs.

Watch Bee Movie!!


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I think its because they work hard, only to get it taken away in the end.

Aren't they gassed as well?


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Queen bee is killed to encourage workers to produce more honey ( they do this when there is a new queen )

worker bees are killed because much commercial honey is harvested by fumigation.

You are eating thier home, its considered exploitation by vegans.

It is up to YOU to make your own choices. If YOU don't see anything wrong in eating honey, then go ahead and eat it! lol THis question has been asked on here LOADS, so check under 'discover', and you will find loads of previous answers. =)

there is no common sense answer to why you can't eat honey....

In regards to the concern for insects....keep this in mind. There is not a single fruit or vegetable you can eat, where you wouldn't be consuming some degree of fruit fly larvae, or other insect parts/larvae.

Well, you're stealing their food when you do that. And it's an animal product. Maple Syrup [real!] and agave nectar are similarly priced and just as sweet. Raw sugar and even stevia leaves can be used as sweetener too. I guess the point is that if we have the capacity to avoid enslavement and cruelty, we should and honey is something we can avoid.

Also, bees in this country are having a hard time right now. Check out this 60 minutes story! http://60minutes.yahoo.com/segment/105/b...

Well, on a basic level, bees are insects, insects are animals, so honey is an animal product. But on a deeper level, collecting honey inevitably leads to the deaths of some bees, at least accidentally. And then commercially produced honey often involves some of the things mentioned in other answers, like the manipulation of or killing of the queen bee, etc.





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