Vegans - how do you view milk?!
Answers: Human milk is best for a child, I understand cows milk is unhealthy but why do some vegans call it so dramatically -'animal puss' when milk is so good for babies? Milk is designed for feeding the young.
Nothing wrong with milk itself. It's the cruelty and death I don't agree with.
150,000 male calves a year in the UK are shot dead soon after birth. Both non-organic and organic dairy farms in the UK practise this. After all, male calves wouldn't grow to produce milk so they are shot dead. Separating mother and their young is very distressing for both.
Some calves, male and female, from non-organic dairy farms in the UK are sold to France and Italy where they live a short and miserable life before they are slaughtered and sold as veal both locally and back to the UK. The only good thing about organic dairy farms in the UK is they are not allowed to sell the calves to continental Europe, but instead they shoot them.
Let's talk about the dairy cows now. They are made pregnant constantly in order to lactate, however when they reach the age of 3-4, their milk production begins to drop and they are slaughtered. Cows can live up to 20 years.
I don't see any problem in milk itself. What I see is cruelty and death. That's why I do not consume dairy products.
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I love milk..
Like that bloke from the Fast Show..
you are right in some aspects, but have you ever tried soymilk? sometimes, depending on the brand, has more protein and less processing. and i value your opinion=]
would you drink rat milk?
You're correct in that, in nature, cow's milk is very good for baby cows in the same way that human's milk is very good for baby humans. However, there is at least some research that shows that cow's milk is not terribly healthy for adult humans, Most adult humans, particularly non-caucasians, are lactose intolerant.
The whole puss thing comes from commercial dairy farming. In many major dairy farms, due to the poor conditions that the cows live in, their udders become infected. The infection leads to puss getting into the milk.
Milk is designed for feeding the animal's own young, so definitely not other species.
People maybe call it 'animal puss' because cows are overmilked in factory farms where most of us get milk and the cows develop sores on their utters, and pus can leak into the milk.
Personally I am against drinking milk because first of all, we don't need it. It is for baby cows and baby cows only. It's the same as drinking our mothers' breast milk forever.. Plus, when dairy cows are not able to produce milk anymore, they are sent to be made into hamburgers which is the reason i don't eat meat, is so I'm not supporting the slaughter of animals.
Because courtesy of conventional dairy-farming methods the cows are medicated to produce more milk than is natural, and their udders get infected, which leads to pus being in their milk.
Natural milk breast fed to the mother's young is natural. Being a human drinking the breast milk of another species is not.
People can argue "we're omnivores (or carnivores as some of the idiots seem to think we are), not herbivores" as much as the want but nobody can argue against the fact that we're the ONLY species that drinks any kind of animal milk after weaning from our mothers. The fact that it's a whole other species' makes it that much more disgusting.
I enjoy milk,Also builds stronger bones..I might be younger then you think. (;
But,I'm a vegitaren,Theres NOTHING wrong with milk..You dont kill the animal.
But I wonder who disvoered milk O.o
and i wonder what they were doing ..
You got 1 half of it right. Yes, human milk is best for human babies but cow's milk is for CALVES, not humans.
Cows' must be pregnant in order to produce milk because they produce milk for the same reason humans produce milk - for their babies. But in farms, they are treated as milking machines, pumped up with hormones and continually kept pregnant (in order to produce more milk) and their calves are taken away at birth and if male, slaughtered within weeks for veal. There's a saying that goes "every glass of milk has a little bit of veal in it".
Humans are the only animal that drinks the milk of another animal - and past infancy too!
Ovo-Lacto vegetarians say cows don't die when they give milk but that is only one half of the story and that assumption is based on an outdated nursery-rhyme conception of dairy cows and egg-laying hens living their whole lives happily on green open pastures in open sunlight.
The reality could be further from the truth. Yes, dairy cows DO die and dairy production DOES require the slaughter of animals. What do you think happens when cows no longer produce milk? They're sent to slaughter for hamburger meat. Remember, they're economic commodities and all commodities must be "liquidated" when they're no longer profitable for the company.
Dairy "production" is even more cruel than meat "production". The only difference is the animals live longer and suffer a worse life.
As for the bit about pus, no one is saying milk IS pus, but milk has pus IN it.
Usually I don't quote PETA because I think their tactics are bullshit and often sexist and welfarist but they have a page on pus in milk:
http://www.milksucks.com/pus.asp
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Any milk with a somatic cell count of higher than 200 million per liter should not enter the human food supply, according to the dairy industry. Therefore, anyone living in a state where the somatic cell count is higher than 200 million shouldn’t be drinking milk. There’s only one problem—every state but Hawaii is producing milk with pus levels so high that it shouldn’t enter the human food supply! At the bottom of this page, you can see how high the pus levels in your state’s milk are. Even the national average, at 322 million, is well above the industry’s limit."
@LEE: Humans are opportunistic omnivores. Omnivore means we can get nutrients from both plants and animal sources, it does NOT mean we need meat to survive - and we CAN get all nutrients from plant sources.
There is absolutely no conflict between veganism and breastfeeding.
All vegan people should be strongly supportive of breastfeeding.
There is nothing natural about drinking the milk of another species and it is completely unnatural to drink any milk if you are an adult.
im a vegetarian and i have no problem with drinking milk because it doesn not harm the cow, the milk from the udders hve to be released and because i am not harming or killing the cow by drinking its milk
Ants milk aphids, so other animals do use otheanimals for milk.
We are the only animal that cooks our food btw. And most animals have specialized diets.
Cows milk is not unhealthy, and way less processed than soy milk, which is monoculture farmed and highly processed.
Milk is food. It has been food for humans for far longer than grains.
12,000 years of drinking it have not caused the human population harm, has it?
It would be better if humans realized that we're omnivores - not herbivores. The human body is *designed* to sustain carnivorous tendencies. The human body *requires* nutrients which are gained through eating meat. Short of eating the animal, isn't milk a little easier on the cow than slaughter?