Why would you think you were doing any "good" by being veggiez?!
p.s. not of the reasons you come up with can or will or have been proven to be fact just hype by sad people who think they make a contribution by interfering with the proper way to conduct your life lol( watch for the responses to this that will give you a clue)
Answers: After all the truth is you aren't saving animal lives after all if we didnt eat them they wouldnt be here, you arent getting healthy as you are an omnivore who requires meat to be a fully functioning animal, all you are doing is well really i dont know but i am sure you will come up with some sanctemonious self promoting reason why you shouldnt eat meat. After all you probably dont have a job or a life so you will have plenty of time to think of one.
p.s. not of the reasons you come up with can or will or have been proven to be fact just hype by sad people who think they make a contribution by interfering with the proper way to conduct your life lol( watch for the responses to this that will give you a clue)
veggies are the cause of global warming because of all the
excess gas they produce from both ends
I don't see veggies protesting about meat eaters picketing outsdie parliment, they quietly have just decided they don't like the fact that they are eating what once was a living breathing animal.
Whats your problem?? are they harrassing you at the butchers trying to make u like them??? no! their not attempting to stop anything they have just made a personal choice get over it!
Im a vegetarian and I have heard this many times although not quite so rudely!!
I dont inflict my choice on anyone, I cook meat for my boyfriend, I respect his choice to eat meat and he does to me in not eating meat.
I dont and wont protest or anything to try to make people become vegetarian because it doesnt bother me what people do. Although I am very must behind the strive for free range chicken and eggs etc, and obviously I dont eat the chicken. I know I'm not saving lives and neither do I want to in that respect, I feel better about myself in not eating meat so let me be!
I dont know what vegetarians have annoyed you to make this rant, but please dont generalise us!!
Oh and why would you think we're jobless?! Dont really understand your reasoning behind that!!
Every animal can be used to something that doesn't involve it being killed and it doesn't take much brain power to think of those things. Cows for milk; chickens for eggs; sheep for wool; the pooh of ducks and other birds is used for manure; and of course their eggs can be eaten; pigs for manure and turning the soil with their snouts and feet ect ect ect I suggest you do some decent research before you repeat such rubbish.
Read this: http://goveg.com/environment-globalwarmi... :-)
"In a groundbreaking 2006 report, the United Nations (U.N.) said that raising animals for food generates more greenhouse gases than all the cars and trucks in the world combined. Senior U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization official Henning Steinfeld reported that the meat industry is “one of the most significant contributors to today’s most serious environmental problems.”
You sell meat.
Sorry, your opinions and feelings don't matter.
We wouldn't expect slave owners to promote abolition, would we?
So, why would we need you to support vegetarianism?
For a business owner you are quite the childish fool.
Can you point to anything positive your done or said in this forum.
your participation seems entirely driven by negativity
why ?
would any of your family recognise you by what you say here ? Or is it just that the intenet anonimity allows you to re-live your childhood moods again ?
I'm not delusional, by a long shot. I know that I'm not, personally, saving lives. I will not see a society that leans more towards vegetarianism, most likely, in my lifetime- if it happens, it won't be for another 50 to 200 years.
However, look at mainstream supermarkets and mainstream restaurant menus. There's ten times more vegetarian/vegan options than let's say a decade ago. This means there IS a market. In another 3 decades in the future there will most likely be more of a demand for veg options and less of a demand for meat and/or dairy/egg options. Less demand means less supply, less supply means.... go figure it out, genius
Ooops- lunch break done....
Davids comments are erronious....in all his anti-veg posts.
And its obvious he has issues with diet(most likely his own).
Why does he come here month after month? What is he trying to accomplish?
First of all, it's obvious that SOMEONE hasn't been eating very many veggies, contributing to insufficient brain function!! Secondly, who ARE you? You're an idiot if you seriously think that I'm NOT helathier than an omnivore. Excuse me, but the last time I checked vegetarians, as a whole, are thinner and have lower cholesteral than omnivores. And, FYI, the only hype comes from the USDA and YOUR government. Read a book and get off the vegetarian forums!
Oh dear, there's a whiff of troll in the air isn't there?
First of all, my reasons for not eating meat are nothing to do with you.Both my partner and my children eat meat. I will happily cook it for them. I just choose not to eat it myself.
I have a job and a very full life thank you, which is why I'm not going to waste any more of my time arguing with you . Go crawl back under your rock and stop being so sad.
Who is your question addressed to David? Are your statements about not having a job or a life addressed to a particular individual you have omitted to name? Or are you making a sweeping and rather ungrammatical generalisation?
You are of course fully aware that not all veg*ns are unemployed and that this is a rather crude stereotype.
Quite arrogant of you to suppose you know the 'proper way' for me to conduct my life, don't you think?
I'm not sure what the point of your question is? Of course meat is your living, but even so hating and abusing those that don't eat it seems a little irrational.
If you ever want any online lessons in grammar, punctuation, spelling or sentence construction, just let me know. It will help you to put together questions that are more easily understood, and therefore easier to answer.
Do you really want an answer?
I am interested in your hostility. Were you insulted by someone on here? Are you involved in farming? What has made you feel this way? I want to know the story behind what you're saying.
It is most emphatically the case that eating meat is natural. We did indeed evolve as omnivores and there is strong evidence that our prehistoric ancestors ate meat, in the form of the isotopes in their bones and the wear marks on their teeth. However, it doesn't follow that one has to eat meat to be healthy because as humans we have culture and we vary. The biggest problem is with essential fatty acids. However, that's also a problem for meat eaters because the best sources of essential fatty acids are organ meat from wild animals and oily fish. The contrast is not between vegetarianism and eating meat but between the practical difficulty of getting hold of healthy meat in an industrial society, particularly because the trophic level of fish is higher than that of plants, meaning that they accumulate the likes of cadmium, mercury and dioxins. It is not practical for most people to eat meat and stay healthy in an industrial capitalist society such as ours. If we were living in a pollution-free wilderness context, it would be. That's the health argument.
We are also not saving any animals' lives in terms of the animal population, but by eating meat we are supporting agribusiness. I grew up in a rural area surrounded by livestock farms, so i could see the devastation which resulted from animal farming. If fewer people ate meat, fewer animals would be bred and more food would be available to people, grown on a smaller area of land. The mean suffering would not reduce, but i am not a utilitarian, so that's not relevant to me. Life that never started is not a loss. I used to believe it was my duty to eat meat in order to provide the economic incentive for the existence of the animals, but that implies lower biodiversity, which is more important.
OK, now for the ad hominem parts of what you ask. My partner and i are frequently judged to be fifteen to twenty years younger than we are (i'm forty and she is fifty) and i know other vegetarians who look about the same. This is an intuitive measure of health. Concerning empirical measures of health, my BP is 110/80, my PEF 700 l/min and my heart rate 60-odd per minute. Most years i don't have a single day of ill-health. I had a cold for three days this year, which was the first for three years.
Work: I am a medical herbalist and a philosophical counsellor, and my wife is a Yoga teacher. If everyone was vegetarian, i would probably just be a philosophical counsellor because there wouldn't be enough ill people to support my business. That's how much difference it makes. Note, moreover, we do have jobs and lives - we also home educate our children and are active in various pressure groups such as Amnesty International. Yes, i do indeed have plenty of time to think of reasons because it's part of my job to do that sort of thing.
Finally, "proven"? No-one can prove they aren't just a brain in a vat. Science doesn't seek to prove theories either - all it does is corroborate.
The number of animals that are bred and slaughtered depends directly on the consumer demand for meat. Every time someone refrains from purchasing meat in a grocery store, he or she is helping to reduce this consumer demand... meaning that fewer animals will be bred and forced to suffer like this: http://www.chooseveg.com/animal-cruelty....
It's not about being self-promoting or holier-than-thou... it's about treating animals with the basic compassion and decency that they deserve.
Oh shut up you narrow minded person.
Vegetarians and vegans do save animals lives tyvm.
And tbh, if these animals didn't exist at all, it would be better than millions being put through farming systems to be killed and eaten. At least then, they feel no pain.
I am not brainless or jobless! Trying to intmidate people with a qestion that is so gramatically correct and rude doesn't mean your right. It looks like you're the one with no life. And being a vegetarian might not save tons of animals it does save some and that is a lot better that none. Some people choose to become vegetarians because it is a much healthier way to live and adds about 5 years to life expectancy. So the next time you eat a DEAD animal that went through torture for only someone as insignificant as you try to remember that vegetarian are the brainless ones, *** hole.