Is peta crazy?!


Question: This is a response/question to this post under the name "7 Things You Didn't Know About PETA (Do you still support them)?"
First of all, peat is not crazy. They are not against pets. Go look at their site. To people who cant really handle the truth on what sadly happens in factory farms, they look at peta with confusion and turn it into ridiculing. As for me, I only care for the ethical treatment of animals, and I am a member of Peta. I do not eat meat. I do eat free-range eggs and milk. Not only is it healthier (free of toxins and hormones that can be really harmful to your body in the long run), but it only takes removing one item (meat) from your diet which can be easily subsituted, and maybe buying different dairy products to help stand up for those who cant stand up for themselves.I can see why the videos on peta could seem "over the limit" but sadly they are the truth, put in a blunt term that alot of people cant fully digest.

My question is, why dont you try it?


Answers: This is a response/question to this post under the name "7 Things You Didn't Know About PETA (Do you still support them)?"
First of all, peat is not crazy. They are not against pets. Go look at their site. To people who cant really handle the truth on what sadly happens in factory farms, they look at peta with confusion and turn it into ridiculing. As for me, I only care for the ethical treatment of animals, and I am a member of Peta. I do not eat meat. I do eat free-range eggs and milk. Not only is it healthier (free of toxins and hormones that can be really harmful to your body in the long run), but it only takes removing one item (meat) from your diet which can be easily subsituted, and maybe buying different dairy products to help stand up for those who cant stand up for themselves.I can see why the videos on peta could seem "over the limit" but sadly they are the truth, put in a blunt term that alot of people cant fully digest.

My question is, why dont you try it?

Yay! Another PETA member. I just wish that when they complained about things that they would offer a solution. They complained about an overcrowded no-kill shelter and now its being shut down. Up to 600 animals are going to be euthanized if other shelters don't take them. I wish they could have had an alternative before they made a stink about it.

i don't know what your talking about all of peta is crazy and they must of been dropped on there head they are as crazy as NAMBLA p.s %$#@ NAMBLA

thanx for trying to turn the world peta, i hope someone looks at this and decides to join.

but i myself am not allowed to. if my dad found out he would be maad because yes he is one of those people who thinks peta is crazy.

People have a right to their own opinion on PETA.

I think PETA makes us vegans look bad... having spokespeople like Pamela Anderson, giving children violent and explicit hand outs that say things like "baby cows get taken from their mommies and killed and eaten, how would you like your mommy to be taken away?", rolling around in fake blood to "prove" a point... it makes us all look like rabid, stark-raving mad, ranting lunatics.

Also, PETA's CEO Ingrid Newkirk specifically said that PETA's ultimate goal is to seperate human beings from animals entirely, meaning no animal testing, no pets, no zoos, etc. There's a documentary with over 30 minutes + of filmed interview of Newkirk. She also attests that she thinks it would be selfish to have your own children when so many children need to be adopted. Her views are sometimes sensible but usually VERY radical and offensive.

I prefer intelligent discussion and providing factual arguement. Also, I would rather support animal rights and welfare in other ways. When you send PETA your money you don't really know where it goes, and most likely it goes to waste. It's better to volunteer at local no-kill shelters and sponsor more local groups, like the people who risked their lives to help rescue stranded cats and dogs after Katrina hit New Orleans. That's a heroic thing to blow my money on, not more ineffective print ads by PETA and celebrity endorsements.

Lots of folks are freaked out by Ingrid Newkirk and Company...and sure, they have resorted to some pretty wacky tactics to make their point, but....they sure have made an impact, and they definitely DO tend to stick in your mind!

Are you sure they're not against pets? I had thought that they were in favor of the full liberation of ALL animals...and I believe that includes house pets. That's one of their stances with which I can't really bring myself to agree, but I see their argument, and I believe it is, in a way, somewhat valid.

Peta isn't crazy? Matter of opinion really.
Well, I knew already that they weren't against pets.......and I hate factory farms and chose free range and organic, especially that that we hunt ourselves, and we are very much for the eithical treatmeant of animals, our pets are family members. As for Peta going over the top occasionaly some members of your orgainzation do go a bit overboard and blow issues completely out of proportion, but I don't believe that it is a reflection upon the individuals but the ones who allow such things from happening. There is no problem with standing up for what you beleve in, but doing so respectfully is something that need to be learned by several people all around.

i wish peta would actually achieve more for freeing animals for cruelty. i see them making a bug show and dance, but rarely any real steps to end animal cruelty.

If they camped peacefully for a year outside the whitehouse, sure i can they are doing somthing good. but they rarely help animals.

peta make animal cruelty a joke, instead of the serious matter that it is

P.S. I am life veggie and i loe animals and strongly believe in ending cruelty to all animals.

another rant, lovely.

What is the question exactly. try what? peta? I think alot of this is propaganda crap. Just like the meat industry. Politics and money are all that really seem to matter.
I'm a vegetarian because I want to be and don't need anyone showing me how meat is packaged. I'm very smart. I gather how it got in the supermarket everytime I go by the butcher section and see a steak. As a matter of fact, I knew it when I was maybe twelve. Why are you being so pushy? have you carried a picket sign of your own, or are you just on the bandwagon?

PETA as an orgabization may not be crazy. But many of it's members are including it's current leadership. And the 11 lines of rant by the asker followed by a half line question, proves this point.
Go look ar their site? Why, what for? What would I see there that I don't already know? Presumptious of you to think that people are so ignorant (like you before you "truth was "revaled" by the the website) that they need a propgandic video to "enlighten" them.
"I only care for the ethical treatment of animals".. is about as ignorant and selfish as statement as one can make. That's right, selfish and ignorant. There are other things that go on in this world and you care of only one. Never mind that PETA shows graphic videos and comics to young kids perhaps causing psychological problems later on (not to mention infringement on parental rights). Never mind that PETA president and queen vegan ingrid whats-her-name uses drugs derived from animals (who by her own admission, killed hundreds if not thousands of adoptable dogs from a shelter she worked for before starting PETA. basically, she played God to all those animals. A messianic complex she still exhibits to this day)). Never mind that PETA received $29 million dollars in donated money yet has not enough funds to support a shelter it operates so that the 31 puppies left in its care were killed. Do you know where all that money went? Who audits its funds? That's why PETAs tax exempt status is being questioned. Oh by the way, a good part of the money goes to celebrity "endorsers" who get paid to promote PETA. Nevermind that some of these celebrities eat meat or use animal products. Talk about hypocrisy. But that's okay for you I guess because all you care about is the ethical treatment of animals. God forbid if a human being should need your help. Can you spare a quarter for the Make A Wish foundation perhaps? What's a quarter when you can spend $16 for membership to help animals.
speaking of hypocrisy.. "I do eat free-range eggs and milk.."
I bet the cow who is impregnated continously so you can have your "hormone free" milk should thank you for being so ethical. good job...

So why won't I try PETA? Frankly because it's full of prtentious, ignrorant, naive, selfish, sanctimonius, holier-than-thou hypocrites like yorself. No thank you.

sorry i'm a vegetarian and i personally think PETA is full of you know what.

no kidding.. not trolling and not a joke.


i trust none of these organizations.

Yes...some are. I wanted to join but then my mom told me most of them are crazy.


I hope this helps!!! =]

I'm a vegetarian and I hate PETA. They kill the majority of their animals! Why else would they need a walk-in freezer? They lie to the public, but they have slip-ups and show their real intentions every once in a while. They want to kill all domestic animals and make sure we never interact with them again. In addition, most of the slaughterhouse footage isn't even current. It's just been "shined up" to look new, when it isn't. I come from a family that has worked in slaughterhouses for years and the way they kill animals now is actually pretty painless. PETA brainwashes. Blech.

PETA baby. I'm with ya there! i watched Peta in August and since then i haven't even thought that meat looks appetizing. at first ya its kinda hard but after its awesome. you feel better. ya people that don't understand whats going on. i believe that they are telling the truth. and some people are to scared to try. but even if they get questioned for why? tell them come on its not hard

No. Peta isn't crazy. Actually, they're sly as a fox. they are very aware that the younger set is quite clueless and will attach themselves to a cause without knowing what the hell they're doing. What Peta represents, ethics wise, is admirable. But, what they actually do is deplorable. Look behind the Peta mask:

http://www.nokillnow.com/PETAIngridNewki...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/article_...

Telling people to go vegetarian just makes them less likely to consider it in the future.

Dairy is breast milk for baby cows, half of whom are taken away to become veal so the farmer can give you their mothers' milk instead.
Eggs are for chickens.

Why don't you try vegan? It's not too hard. ;)

I was a PeTA member for several years, beginning shortly after I went veg in 1987. Initially, I was very impressed by their in-your-face campaigns b/c I was convinced that *everyone* would stop eating meat, experimenting on animals etc. if they only knew how much suffering these things were actually causing. It didn't take long to realize that most ppl don't *want* to know the gory details & there are more tactful ways to spread the message to ppl who are open to it.
Still, I continued to support PeTA b/c I felt that what they do is important. Eventually I became disenchanted wth them b/c although their literature often made me feel like a fiend b/c I still do occasional dairy, they asked members to write supportive letters to McDonald's for making *slight* improvements on how *some* animals are treated. Also, while I thought the whole "I'd rather go naked than wear fur" thing was great @ 1st, after a couple years it lost its edge & just seemed sexist-- it seemed ironic & hypocritical to display women as "meat" while telling the world that meat is bad. The whole parade of celebrities seemed off the point, actually, & someone here has said these celebrities are *paid* for this, which is probably *not* where most animal advocates want to see their donations go.
There's no way PeTA or any other organization is going to convince me that having companion animals is wrong, as long as these animals are properly cared for & given love, respect & a good quality of life. Several of our animals are rescues & our multi-species family is a happy one.
I agree with the ppl here who think PeTA should offer solutions when it publicizes problems. I wouldn't say that most PeTA members are "crazy" but some of the groups practices actually turn some ppl *away* from wanting to learn more about helping animals.

"In a perfect world, animals would be free to live their lives to the fullest: raising their young, enjoying their native environments, and following their natural instincts. However, domesticated dogs and cats cannot survive "free" in our concrete jungles, so we must take as good care of them as possible. People with the time, money, love, and patience to make a lifetime commitment to an animal can make an enormous difference by adopting from shelters or rescuing animals from a perilous life on the street. But it is also important to stop manufacturing "pets," thereby perpetuating a class of animals forced to rely on humans to survive."

-PETA pamphlet, Companion Animals: Pets or Prisoners?

"I don’t use the word "pet." I think it’s speciesist language. I prefer "companion animal." For one thing, we would no longer allow breeding. People could not create different breeds. There would be no pet shops. If people had companion animals in their homes, those animals would have to be refugees from the animal shelters and the streets. You would have a protective relationship with them just as you would with an orphaned child. But as the surplus of cats and dogs (artificially engineered by centuries of forced breeding) declined, eventually companion animals would be phased out, and we would return to a more symbiotic relationship – enjoyment at a distance."

-Ingrid Newkirk, PETA vice-president, quoted in The Harper's Forum Book, Jack Hitt, ed., 1989, p.223.

"Let us allow the dog to disappear from our brick and concrete jungles -- from our firesides, from the leather nooses and chains by which we enslave it."

-John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of A Changing Ethic, PETA, 1982, p.15.

The cat, like the dog, must disappear..... We should cut the domestic cat free from our dominance by neutering, neutering, and more neutering, until our pathetic version of the cat ceases to exist."

-John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of a Changing Ethic, PETA 1982, p.15.

Pet ownership is an abysmal situation brought about by human manipulation."

-Ingrid Newkirk, President, PETA, Washingtonian, August 1986

These are all quotes from PETA sites and news releases. How can you think they are not aginst our owning pets

Arson, property destruction, burglary and theft are 'acceptable crimes' when used for the animal cause."

-Alex Pacheco, Director, PETA

If a girl gets sexual pleasure from riding a horse, does the horse suffer? If not, who cares? If you French kiss your dog and he or she thinks it's great, is it wrong? We believe all exploitation and abuse is wrong. If it isn't exploitation and abuse, it may not be wrong."

-Ingrid Newkirk, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals

We feel that animals have the same rights as retarded children."

-Alex Pacheco, Director, PETA, New York Times, January 14, 1989
Six million Jews died in concentration camps, but six billion broiler
chickens will die this year in slaughter houses.
-Ingrid Newkirk (PETA)
(_Washington_Post_, Nov 13, 1983)

I am not a morose person but I would rather not be here. I don't have any
reverence for life, only for the entities themselves. I would rather see a
blank space where I am. This will sound like fruitcake stuff again, but at
least I wouldn't be harming anything."
Ingrid Newkirk - Founder, PETA
Washington Post, November 13, 1983

Question to PETA Outreach Coordinator Susan Rich: "If you were aboard a
lifeboat with a baby and a dog, and the boat capsized, which would you
rescue?"

Rich's answer: "I wouldn't know for sure...I might choose the human baby
or I might choose the dog."
Steve Kane Show WIOD-AM Radio Miami, FL Feb, 23, 1989

If these quotes ,agin from thier own web sites, do not prove that they are cazy I do not know what would.

If they are for animals the way they sya then why do they kill 90% of the animals that come into there shelter.
As far as not eating meat, all of our nearest relatives eats meat, chimps go out and kill monkeys and eat them. All animals with large brains eat meat. You do not want to eat meat fine don't. let the rest of us alone.

Most people have no idea that at many animal shelters across the country, any pit bull that comes through the front door doesn't go out the back door alive. From California to New York, many shelters have enacted policies requiring the automatic destruction of the huge and ever-growing number of "pits" they encounter. This news shocks and outrages the compassionate dog-lover.

Here's another shocker: People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, the very organization that is trying to get you to denounce the killing of chickens for the table, foxes for fur or frogs for dissection, supports the shelters' pit-bull policy, albeit with reluctance. We further encourage a ban on breeding pit bulls.

The pit bull's ancestor, the Staffordshire terrier, is a human concoction, bred in my native England, I'm ashamed to say, as a weapon. These dogs were designed specifically to fight other animals and kill them, for sport. Hence the barrel chest, the thick hammer-like head, the strong jaws, the perseverance and the stamina. Pits can take down a bull weighing in at over a thousand pounds, so a human being a tenth of that weight can easily be seriously hurt or killed.

Pit bulls are perhaps the most abused dogs on the planet. These days, they are kept for protection by almost every drug dealer and pimp in every major city and beyond. You can drive into any depressed area and see them being used as cheap burglar alarms, wearing heavy logging chains around their necks (they easily break regular collars and harnesses), attached to a stake or metal drum or rundown doghouse without a floor and with holes in the roof. Bored juveniles sic them on cats, neighbors' small dogs and even children.

In the PETA office, we have a file drawer chock-full of accounts of attacks in which these ill-treated dogs with names like "Murder" and "Homicide" have torn the faces and fingers off infants and even police officers trying to serve warrants. Before I co-founded PETA, I served as the chief of animal-disease control and director of the animal shelter in the District of Columbia for many years. Over and over again, I waded into ugly situations and pulled pit bulls from people who beat and starved them, or chained them to metal drums as "guard" dogs, or trained them to attack people and other animals. It is this abuse, and the tragedy that comes from it, that motivates me.

Those who argue against a breeding ban and the shelter euthanasia policy for pit bulls are naive, as shown by the horrifying death of Nicholas Faibish, the San Francisco 12-year-old who was mauled by his family's pit bulls.

Tales like this abound. I have scars on my leg and arm from my own encounter with a pit. Many are loving and will kiss on sight, but many are unpredictable. An unpredictable Chihuahua is one thing, an unpredictable pit another.

People who genuinely care about dogs won't be affected by a ban on pit- bull breeding. They can go to the shelter and save one of the countless other breeds and lovable mutts sitting on death row. We can only stop killing pits if we stop creating new ones. Legislators, please take note.

Ingrid Newkirk is president of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (http://www.peta.org) and the author of "Making Kind Choices" (St. Martin's Griffin, 2005).


They do not seem very ethical to me, calling to wipe a breed of dog,one of which attack Newkirk so she now calls for the whole breed to die. As a owner of a pit bull, which is a service dog to me, I do think PETA is nuts. If you do not think PETA wants to wipe out pets reread what raven said.

Peta is a bunch of fruit cakes.





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