Annoying vegans?!
Answers: every single vegan i have met on here has given a snooty, "holier than thou" attitude to meat eaters. i mean, i personally think that the option not to eat meat is silly, but i don't go posting "eat meat" on every vegan question. i want possible answers as to why most of them are stuck up and the best annoying encounter on here will be given best
I wonder how many questions and answers from vegans you have read on here?
I notice that you replied to a question by 'Christy', and treated it as a genuine question. Christy and Ashley are known by regulars on here to be meat eaters who post phoney questions about imaginary moral dilemmas or scenarios with the express purpose of making vegans look silly. Ashley has even admitted it in her questions on occasion.
Most vegans (and vegetarians) who use this board really couldn't care less if someone else eats meat or not; I really encourage you to read several more Q&A before judging an entire group of people.
Some meat eaters also use this board regularly and make an intelligent and welcome contribution.
Edit** a quick check shows me you've answered two of 'Christy's' questions. Please bear in mind s/he's a troll, and not a vegan next time you see any of her/his nonsense.
Most of the vegans here are very intelligent. Maybe you add an inaccurate inflection to their text.
This is the Vegetarian & Vegan section anyways. You aren't forced to come here.
BTW--what's the question?
They probably want you to know what you're missing out on, in their eyes. That is like everyone...maybe someone will be one religion and think they are better than another religion. It's just human nature. I wouldn't let it bother you.
There are some really annoying vegans out there... I call them vegangelicals.
Personally I am a vegan but switched from full on cheese loving meat eater to vegan only about 9 months ago.
I can understand meat eaters completly. I'll be fair and honest but there isn't enough information out there for the general public to see what factory farming is really like and I also feel that from a young age we are bought up to believe that we need animal products to sustain ourselves. This is certainly the case if you have no choice in the matter but as a western society we do. Sorry if I sound preachy, this is just what I've found to be true.
This isn't me trying to make meaties sound ignorant or 'immoral'... people are entitled to their own opinions.
I think some vegans are so angry and outraged by the things they've seen and know that they forget that they probably once were a meat eater or that their friends/family probably are and because it's the internet there is a sense on anonyminity so they say what they like when they'd probably hold their tongue in real life. Vegans on the internet always are a bit prickish.
Now here's the part where I'm going to sound vegangelical, if I had my way I would take children round a few farms to see for themselves the disgusting conditions animals are forced to live in and then they are free to make an educated choice.
I don't mind vegetarians / vegans.Everyone has the right to make their own choices.
But I can do without their self-righteousness.
Really? I am sorry you have met some annoying vegans. But, they are people, and people can be annoying at times! A lot of vegans are actually really freaking awesome!
I just think the facts are there, people aren't picking them up, and it annoys some vegans, and in turn may try to respond in a polite educated manner, but let the facts and their emotions get a hold of them. Especially if the question is insulting them, stereotyping them, or saying something that insults the animals butchered.
Many people are ignorant and do not know the facts about veganism, even when they do they choose not to believe it due to the media, and how they where raised. But I do remember time ago when certain people felt it was silly to not keep slaves.
Hopefully someday you will met the awesome vegans that are out there, and learn the whole meaning of what veganism is! Peace to you.
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*I do let them, but the problem is they don't let us!:*
Well vegans do *let people* eat what they want, but they may try and explain to them the truth they can't see. See there is a third party involved people tend to forget - the animals. They are being abused. I don't like when I see somebody being abused, animal or human, and I don't think it is good to *sit back and let the abused be abused*. I fight for all the children, wives, husbands, people being abused and try to raise awareness as much as I can. It's just animals are the only ones being killed for their meat so when we care/fight (for their rights) the people who eat the killed tortured animals get angry. Not to mention the harm it does to our bodies, the water, environment, and people who are starving due to all the meat consumption!
*the question is why are some of them stuck up:*
You are stereotyping vegans! The majority are not stuck up due to the fact most are rather intelligent, peaceful, informative, and caring. You can't be stuck up if you are all of those.
But, still peace to you and I hope you can learn about veganism one day, and I am glad through your question you see vegans are nice!
I am vegan and and I try to not have a "holier that thou" attitude. For me I dont eat animal product due to health reasons. So its not silly because it could very well cause me to go into anaphylactic shock or some other allergic response.
Now, my husband is very much an omnivore. I have no problem helping him cook and preparing his meals, and honestly i have no problem with people being omni.
Unfortunately you will always meet people who think they are better than everyone else. Meat eaters, vegans, women, men, children, old people. Just have to take it with a grain of salt and not let it bother you.
There are people everywhere who act "holier than thou"...Why would a it bother you so much? I mean, does it make you feel guilty? Does it make you question your ethics?
I think it's silly to let something that really doesn't affect you annoy you...if you were a Buddhist, you would thank them for trying your patience and make you a stronger person....but then, if you were Buddhist, you would probably be vegetarian :)
If you find every single vegan on this site snooty, perhaps you are not reading enough posts. Yes, there are some fanatics (yes, Ashley this also includes you, although I find you more entertaining than annoying!!) however, there are many other wonderful, non judgemental people with great answers. In fact, many of us are married to meat eaters and have meat eating friends or family members and we respect their decision to eat meat. If you find this section of Yahoo answers so distressing, perhaps you avoid it.
Sorry, but this won't be annoying.
The ones that are on here all the time, as in they are posting constantly and evidently don't have a job, don't have a life other than this particular area.
I made the mistake of meeting someone from here when they came up north, a LARGE MISTAKE to be sure.
Real live vegetarians and vegans that you meet face to face in real life are nothing like that at all.
Don't judge all just by one particular area of the internet. I only started getting on here to help a friend with finding different approaches to eating to keep things fresh and not boring.
Comments from both sides tend to be more than a little rude at times.
Sorry...
I think that putting everyone in one group is judgmental. You saying that "every single vegan on here...blah blah" is just silly. The only way that you know that they are vegan is if they say so. Therefore, most of those people are probably a little radical or trolls right?
Have you ever come across any of my answers? You wouldn't know because I don't rant about veganism, but I am vegan!
I wasn't even going to answer this question but Ms. Z's answer was so great that I had to comment, now you have another vegan answer!
I have only ever met one other vegan, not including myself, and she was really nice and didn't push her views on to others. I am the same it is up to the individual if they want to go vegan or not people do not want it rammed down their throats. My friends from the U.S have told me a lot of vegans have this attitude that you are talking about and by the sound of it they need a good slap!
I've been vegan for while, vegetarian longer, I may seem a little preachy at times...but I also feel that a lot of people don't know certain things about the animal industry. I work for environmental causes, non-profit, I've been doing research for years on environmental concerns and one of the best things that you can do for the environment is go vegetarian. I don't want to sound ranty, but there are so many things that I didn't know before, that no one ever told me, and sometimes I feel that I should tell others.
I don't rant, I give facts. I don't feel holier than anyone, but I do hope that people understand what they are supporting when they buy meat, it's not just about animals....
Sorry some of us annoy you!
I'm vegan but i'm not blunt about. I will however stick up for vegans if i find meat eaters are being abusive to us and animals. Most vegans are peaceful people anyway. But if you're not nice to them we have a right answer back.
I joined a vegan group few months back and meat eaters were abusing it, they even posted pictures of animals being slaughter to anger us. So to me meat eaters can be the worst sometimes.
I understand where you're coming from.
It's important to consider that there are lots of vegans online that you've never encountered as 'snooty' or 'holier than thou' because the vegans who aren't that way don't leave those types of messages. I don't think vegans can be stereotype. Everyone has their own reasons why they are vegan, and how they interact with the world around them. It sounds like the vegans who annoy you are the ones who are 'in your face'. I don't think most vegans are very pushy people.
Pushy, fanatical people are just the ones you hear the most.
Similarly, 'anti-choice' people seem crazy, because the ones on the news are the ones blowing up clinics. They give pro-lifers a very bad image. Pro-life loud-mouths are probably a very small fraction of that group of people, but to me they seem in-your-face and judgmental, and unrealistic and silly, because of just a few people I've encountered who are so highly offended by abortion. I'm sure most pro-lifers are calm, rational people who made a choice for themselves and don't try to convince everyone to be just like them.
Hopefully no one minds me making this comparison, but it was the most similar reference for me to draw off the top of my head.
i had a very similar post recently. Here is my response to yours. I think its innaccurate to say "every single vegan", because i've come across several who are kind and don's act self righteous. Then again, there are also several who think they know it all and who immediately classify you as a bad person for eating meat. I was raised on a farm where we raised our own livestock and ate it. a lot of vegans think that eating meat is related to animal cruelty, because they ASSUME that meat eaters all buy their meat from the grocery store, which is ignorant and untrue. I think the best answer to your question would be, that the reason so many vegans on here have a "holier than thou" attitude, are because they are 13 and have been a vegan since last thursday and the cool kids at school are vegan. Trust, i was veggie for two years, just cause i love veggies and wanted to see if there was a difference with my health. i actually wound up feeling much weaker than when i ate meat, which is why i switched back- decided to include that because i know a lot of those preteens will get really defensive about my post and say i just dont know about it. I also have several close friends who have made the choice to become vegan, and they are peaceful kind people, who don't do it because it's a fad, they've been vegan for years and are because of throrough in depth research and soul searching, not because the hipsters on myspace do it. i wouldnt take the people you are referring to too seriuosly, because im sure a lot of them aren't through puberty yet.
Damn It! Maria I was going to write the same thing! - look you really need to stop talking logic and being right! lol hehehehe.
No actually I 100% agree with all the good responses. -
The only answer I can give here is the curse of the vocal minority casting everyone else in a bad light. I am a very (very) new member here but reading through the boards I find the majority of people to be very helpful, not forcing their views on others. Everyones life choices are their own and you shouldn't feel the need to justify yourself to anyone regardless of your diet - its best to just ignore the militant wing and hope they go away!
Don't let a few snooty/preachy types put you off a whole group of people!
You haven't "met" anyone on here. It's an internet forum.
People online are different than they are in person. You should maybe try to meet some real people.
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Haha, you thought that "Christy" was really vegan.
You f*cking idiot.
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The best answer button isn't coming up because you are too young to use this website.
I guess to answer that question is that these animals will hold their positons at all costs. and by doing so can never truly to to the meat of the matter. By the way they are not silly because they know better.
Not every vegan is annoying and self-righteous. Sorry that you've run across a few. There are plenty of annoying and self-righteous meat-eaters as well. I think people just get upset when they run across someone who is different than them. Just keep an open mind and don't let the opinions of other people bother you.
YOU - "every single vegan i have met on here has given a snooty, 'holier than thou' attitude to meat eaters."
ME - Every single one? Are you sure? Have you met them all? As for vegans being "holier-than-thou", they don't abuse animals for their own gain. I think you would agree that it is the right thing to do. The opposite would be abusing animals for your own gain. You would probably agree that abusing animals is wrong. So I don't think they are "holier-than-thou" so much as they are right and you stereotype them in an effort to try to negate their argument, and therefore make yourself feel better.
YOU - "i mean, i personally think that the option not to eat meat is silly"
ME - That seems holier-than-thou.
YOU - "but i don't go posting "eat meat""
ME - You just did... by saying veganism is silly, you've implied that vegans are wrong and should eat meat.
YOU - "i want possible answers as to why most of them are stuck up"
ME - Most of them are "stuck up" because you want them to be. Most of the people here (including many vegans) are very polite and helpful. You choose to focus on negative qualities, so that is what you will find.
YOU - "best annoying encounter on here"
ME - This one.
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YOU - "why isn't the "best answer" button coming up?"
ME - Because it hasn't been 3 hours since you asked your question... use the remaining time to think.
I think you're either reading answers very selectively OR you're only reading answers to the questions that are hostile towards veg*nism to begin with. I know there is a core group of us here who are not snooty or stuck up, who put a lot of information and encouragement into our answers and often mention that if you want to continue eating meat, that's your choice. There are times, however, when someone posts an obnoxious question that insinuates that we're stupid, wrong, etc and it's natural to get a little defensive. You yourself have referred to us as annoying and stuck up and our decision as silly. Perhaps you're the pot calling the kettle black. Thank you for not posting "Eat meat" as the answer to every question; surely you've noticed, however, that we are inundated with trolls who do just that. So, how about asking a question about why so many of the meat eaters here are annoying, etc? It takes two to tango.
Probably because we are so advanced in our respect for life that reducing ourselves to the consumption of flesh just seems cannibalistic and savage.
As human beings, we should all be mentally evolved passed this state of viciousness. In this age of technology we have the resources to provide ourselves with nutritious, healthy food without taking the lives of other beings merely for the taste of their flesh.
this is not a question... you are ranting and it's not the first time you've done it.
and you shouldn't even call anyone annoying. why? because you are annoying. I've seen your other rants in this section before. why do you even bother trolling?
GROW UP, will ya?
look i also find them annoying but if they don't want to have anything to do with animals as there food then let them. We just see it as ignorance, but it means something to them.
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