Vegans is it okay to house snakes, gila monsters, poisonous spiders, scopions?!
Answers: and other poisonous animals and insects on farms to secret or milk theirvenom out of them to make antivenom for people who get bitten? There are farms where the farmers do this as a living. Is this type of farming acceptable over traditional farms of horses, cows, sheep, pigs, ect?
I don't think you are "generalizing" re: vegans as one of the less lucid commentators suggested. What HE is doing is talking about "vegans/vegetarians of convenience"--VOC's. Those you find here on V&V forums in overwhelming numbers
But you are correct .. .if you are GENUINELY vegan--i.e. possessing a spirituality-- you cannot pariticipate in this kind of "farming". In those areas where you find genuine/true/strict vegans, there are some deaths from such bites ... but ancient ways also have many "folk" cures.
But they do not "pick and choose" as VOC's do on this forum ... as one of your commentators has.
Excellent question. But you know the point you are making will be lost on most of the VOC's here.
Didn't you ask pretty much the same question yesterday?
Running out of ideas?
My answers the same as it was yesterday.
Edit**CS and Skully - VOCs - no apostrophe required, OK? Your writing styles and errors are very similar. Oh, I've been to Thailand CS, so can I be considered a 'true' vegan please?
Good luck with those folk remedies if you ever get bitten Skully. Oh and I see you're down one YA account as of today!
@ Oh Well, before assuming vegans haven't thought about the points you raise, read a few threads on here, including the many about animal testing, drugs and medicine.
" to secret or milk theirvenom"
LOL whatever reason they are keeping them "to secret" are probably wrong
And venom milking farmers, that sounds like a really kickin' band name...... right up there with Alien Ant Farm!!!
Otherwise, you gotta get antivenom somewhere ,right? If something bit me and I was gonna die in 3 minutes if I didn't get an injection you better believe I hope some farmer out there is milking a cockroach or spider or something to get me my antivenom.......
and I dunno never realized all vegans think the same, if you rephrased this question to being "black ppl you think it's okay for all these animals to get milked by some farmer in the dell somewhere to make antivenom" that wouldn't seem right dude, so why you gonna generalize all vegans??
Wow you are so aggressive.
What would like us vegans to do? If I ate a piece of salami would you get lost? If I agreed that being vegan wont save the world....then would you leave? If I agreed that we are fighting a losing war....or if I said that Flexitarians are a real group of people who fit in the vegetarian category...or if I said that you are right, that vegans shouldn't own dogs, even if they are blind....THEN would you be happy.
I mean, seriously dude haha you're super model girl must be dumb as dirt to be with someone so obsessive as you, or do you just act like a jerk here where no one knows you?
Flexitarian is a myth.
No it is not O.K. to kill them.
Wow... I've been to thailand, do I count.
I'm definitely far from a vegan, but I would say they do. Most probably excuse a boot or shoe and even a flyswatter as some eco friendly way to get rid of bugs. (as long as the boots aren't made from animal byproducts.)
I have also wondered about what the vegans think of killing all the important insects in the grill of their cars and on the windshield. Certainly they would find a way around that too perhaps?
Don't forget about the life saving medicine that was tested on animals because people were more important. When a vegan's child was dying right in front of them, and the only way the child would be saved is to have administered a life saving treatment that was animal tested, I wonder if the vegan would refuse like the Jehovah's Witnesses do? Many children have died to to strict belief.
All farmers are important. I have a family made up of farmers, and thats all they have known all their lives and are happy to live that way of life. They contribute more than people realize to the society as a whole. Especially collecting the animal dung for natural fertilization of vegetable crops.
I was just thinking about how brilliant you and skully are. You are so brilliant.
I keep hearing about VOC's and was wondering. Could you explain to me the definition of a vegetarian? I would love to hear how VOC's exist. By definition that is. VOC sounds alot like flexitarian to me as it is not real. Vegetarians do not eat animals.... like me... that is all that is required. Defined with no interpretation. See... the dictionary makes my point for me. Thanks though, nice try to whoever came up with that.
The lives of humans are more important than the lives of venomous predators.
Of course it is, as long as you feed them lots of carrots.