Give me a reason not to eat meat.?!
I know all about the animal rights issues facing commerical farming, and it makes me sick too.
This topic is meant to be about health only, do not lecture me on anmial rights here please. I strongly believe in animal rights already, but I do not have a problem with 'ethically killing' a wild animal to allow me to live, right after I say a prayer of thanks to both God and the anmial.
I suspect that vegetarianism in todays society is healthier that than the average no care diet (fast food, processed foods, refined foods, resturant foods, etc..)
I try real hard to eat natural foods. My rule of thumb while shopping for food is: if it was avaliable 100 years ago, it's probably ok. Wild meat was.
SO, anyone know of a good reason not to eat "clean, natural" meat? (in a healthy full mixed diet, rich in fruit and veggies)
Answers: What I want to know is; can anyone give me any proof that "natural" meat is unhealthy.
I know all about the animal rights issues facing commerical farming, and it makes me sick too.
This topic is meant to be about health only, do not lecture me on anmial rights here please. I strongly believe in animal rights already, but I do not have a problem with 'ethically killing' a wild animal to allow me to live, right after I say a prayer of thanks to both God and the anmial.
I suspect that vegetarianism in todays society is healthier that than the average no care diet (fast food, processed foods, refined foods, resturant foods, etc..)
I try real hard to eat natural foods. My rule of thumb while shopping for food is: if it was avaliable 100 years ago, it's probably ok. Wild meat was.
SO, anyone know of a good reason not to eat "clean, natural" meat? (in a healthy full mixed diet, rich in fruit and veggies)
Health-wise, it depends on how much you eat. Even though wild game contains less than farmed... meat of any type contains a lot of cholesterol and saturated fat. Plant products contains a lot less saturated fat and absolutely no cholesterol.
I suppose that in that case eating a small amount might be OK for your health (much like eating a small amount of junk food won't kill you) but in the amount that most Americans eat meat, you'd put yourself at risk for heart attacks, strokes and other related illnesses.
There's also the fact that eating meat displaces eating healthy things in your diet. This isn't true for junk-food vegetarians who might replace meat with, say, oreos. But it is true for the majority of vegetarians and for you if you gave up meat (since you already claimed to be concerned with healthy eating). Plant foods can offer nutritionally anything that meat, eggs and cheese can except for vitamin B12. But meat, eggs and cheese can't provide any dietary fiber (which many Americans sorely lack) and most of the numerous essential vitamins our bodies require. What do we get from meat? Protein. Iron. Vitamin D. Some minerals. But not much else. Blueberries, on the other hand, would need a small book to list all it's nutrients.
Colon cancer in vegetarians, for example, is reduced by as much as 50% simply because we eat more fiber. We get that benefit not just from eating plants foods, but eating the *amount* of plant foods that we do.
There are health issues with animal protein that are just about that-not about ethical or moral issues.
1. Cholesterol: your body produces cholesterol on its own. Animal products introduce additional cholesterol into the body and while your body can do a good job balancing its own production when you are eating a healthy diet, additional foreign cholesterol is trouble. You can research complications of high cholesterol on your own.
2. Osteoporosis: Countries with the highest consumption of dairy have the highest incidence of osteoporosis. Connection? Large concentrations of animal protein cause a ph imbalance in the body and the body counteracts this by using bone calcium to counteract the ph change.
3. Exposure to whatever the animal has consumed: even natural wildlife is consuming creatures, organisms, and water that may carry diseases and microorganisms that your body has to fight off. The dietary laws of the Bible (more than a hundred years ago) are based largely on what animals could be more safely consumed and to reduce the risk of such disease.
Well a lot of vegetarian food is less "natural" than meat. Some of the simulated meat products contain lots of artificial colours, flavors, stabilizers, etc.
Some of the reasons to not eat meat is that vegetarians (the healthy ones at least) have lower instances of colon cancer. This is probably because they eat much less saturated fats. I don't think there is strong evidence to completely avoid lean meats like fish or turkey breast, especially if it's cooked without adding fat.
The only reason to go completely vegetarian is probably ethical or religious reasons. It's also better for the environment.
meat is just discusting! & in the bible it says "thou shalt not kill" it dosent specify "human or that of the same species" it just says dont kill... pluss there is auctually alot of desieses n meat, it is proven tht ppl who dont eat meat live longer than those who do
http://www.peta2.com/TAKECHARGE/index.as...
Even if this "clean, natural" flesh, as you call it, is much healthier than regular flesh, or indeed entirely healthy, it is still not as healthy as a plant-based diet - as a vegan, you'd be eating a lot more nutrients and vitamins that are essential to reaching your optimal health - vegans almost invariably eat a lot more fresh fruit and vegetables which are gold to your body. Replace that steak with a lentil bake and you've made your meal much healthier.
A couple of other things about flesh; Osteoporosis and bacteria (disease) I don't know much about this, I'd have to do some research myself, which I am sure you are fully capable of doing.
My experience: I have got clearer skin, more stamina, a lower heart rate and stronger heart beat & more concentration since going vegan.
Here's a thought: while we may be natural omnivores, meat is not healthy today partly because of our greatly different lifestyles. Mankind millions of years ago would have sweated off that saturated animal fat and cholesterol just chasing their next dinner. Nowadays, not even the sportsmen and women among us do as much work as our ancestors did.
Also, would this "clean, natural" flesh you talk about always be from older animals? Cows live to around 25 in the wild, but even in the dairy industry they only live to 4. Growing animals are going to have a lot of growth hormones flowing around for their bodies to expand with, these can be a health risk to humans as we're a different species. Personally, I believe this is one of the reasons why humans are getting so much taller, they're eating more meat than, say, 100 years ago, and they're not working to sweat it off - I have no evidence to present for this, it's just my impression.
"if it was avaliable 100 years ago, it's probably ok. Wild meat was."
Again, lifestyles have changed and although one specific food may be moderately healthy, there are plant-based alternatives that are more healthy. Also, cheese and eggs were available 100 years ago, but they are clearly not healthy (cholesterol, saturated animal fat, pus, blood, growth hormones intended for growing baby animals)
Another thing to think about: even if a plant-based diet was unhealthier, wouldn't it be worth it to save the animals? I'm not trying to lecture, but I just think you should consider that 1 animal's health is less important than thousands of animal's lives, if you have not already. Indeed, becoming a vegan is potentially a personal sacrifice anyway, just look at the trolling on these message boards, it is also difficult to attend social functions sometimes, but we have to prioritise life over temporary discomfort.
One more thing to think about: veganism is a moral base line for animal rights and is essential if you wish to be a credible animal rights advocate or activist. While one could technically be in favour of animal rights and not be a vegan, one would not be doing the cause any favours. AR has a bad enough reputation as it is without it's advocates and activists appearing hypocrites :P
http://www.vegansociety.com/html/food/nu...
Here is all the information you need about a healthier, plant-based diet.
I hope my input has helped you to make the good choice :)
You can't eat meat (or any animal products) and be for animal rights. You would be welfarist at best. Hell, i'm vegan and i'm merely welfarist.
Nobody can convince you to go vegetarian if you don't have the desire to. If you do have the desire to cut back then you'd be doing the research yourself instead of lazily telling people to convince you. Seems you're just in here to pick a fight with the v&vs.
i dont think theres a reason not to eat meat. its a food chain, thats the reason different organisms exist... if there was one type of organism on earth it wouldnt survive long coz every living thing needs its own food and something to hunt/eat and something to be eaten by so that they dont overpopulate the planet. so keep eating what ever pleases ur stomach...
Go and buy the Feb/March issue of 'Mother Earth News' and read the article, "What you need to know about the meat that you eat".
It's a real eye opener.
I've never heard a vegetarian say they are vegetarian because it's healthier. I've only heard vegetarians/vegans say they don't eat meat/animal products because it's mean to animals.
Vegetarians and vegans value animal life more than human life. If they truly cared about humans, they would be walking around saying "You should go veggie because it's healthier for you". But what are they saying? "Eating animals is wrong!"
Just goes to show you, they care more about animals than fellow humans. Don't let them tell you otherwise. Vegetarians/vegans would rather pickett outside KFC than go feed homeless people. Shows where their priorities lay.
And if you notice, there are alot of vegetarians/vegans on here asking what supplements are best and how they can get more vitamins and nutrients. If going veggie is so healthy, why do they need supplements?
just look at what ur eating and think about it!!!!its like me eating u!!just think will u?!?
There are lots of reasons not to eat meat. One of them is meat always has a little poop in it. No matter how much you sanitize. Poop is filled with bacteria and germs from something that was just living. Another reason is that if you eat parts such as livers, toungs, and hearts, it can cause serious cancer that can be fatal. The liver is where all of the bacteria and things the animal doesn't use goes. And the truth is you can never get if clean if you sanitize for a million years. Being a vegetarian is actually very healthy.
free range meats are AOK
grass fed
In reply to the comments by Good ride, cowboy:
"I've never heard a vegetarian say they are vegetarian because it's healthier. I've only heard vegetarians/vegans say they don't eat meat/animal products because it's mean to animals"...............
Well you can count me as your first. I eat vegan style for health reasons only.
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The reasons not to eat meats are that it has abiotic chemicals in it so it can destory the natural bacteria. Also, don't you feel sad or disappointed how animals are killed? You should watch the video...
It's all about balance. A little bit of this and a little bit of that. Don't feel guilty because you eat meat. There is a reason why we do, otherwise it would not have happened in the first place. There are reasons......well natures reasons versus man made reasons. Somebody go and tell the carnivore plants not to eat insects and see what reasons they come up with.
Well, meat is bad for your heart...
well if you eat anything made from cows not including stuff liek m,ilk n chese but like their meat yoour runing the world cows are saving the world idk how but i saw it on the news