Would you define this as "quality" food?!
Recall of 143 million lb of beef because the cattle "could not stand at the time of slaughter"
That is shocking enough, to think the cattle were in such poor condition
But what is more shocking ( to any sane person ) is how LOW the USDA health criteria must be if they feel the need to include "standing" as one criteria.
"Prime beef" indeed - described as destined for "major fast food chains" by the US authorities.
Workers are also accused of ( and legally charged with ) animal cruetly
This is not PETA propaganda, this is a real world recall by the US government as reported by Reuters and the BBC
Some of the meat is "already consumed or too far into the food chain to recall" - enoy your burger at lunchtime
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Recall of 143 million lb of beef because the cattle "could not stand at the time of slaughter"
That is shocking enough, to think the cattle were in such poor condition
But what is more shocking ( to any sane person ) is how LOW the USDA health criteria must be if they feel the need to include "standing" as one criteria.
"Prime beef" indeed - described as destined for "major fast food chains" by the US authorities.
Workers are also accused of ( and legally charged with ) animal cruetly
This is not PETA propaganda, this is a real world recall by the US government as reported by Reuters and the BBC
Some of the meat is "already consumed or too far into the food chain to recall" - enoy your burger at lunchtime
This is the reason why I started buying our beef from a local farmer. We share a half of a steer every year with another couple. This guy only butchers a few each year and they live a nice life up to that point. He only raises a hanful of steer compared to larger corps. It is more expensive, but I don't have to worry about any of this stuff, plus it is a lot more humane.
They showed the video of the people in that place abusing the animals, a couple of weeks ago CBS evening news ran it and last night my local channels were playing it. I try not to see things like that but I accidently saw a downer cow being hit with a bulldozer. What a sick sick thing. The US needs to get off their aces and do something about this stuff, cause you know that it is happening all over the place. These people just got caught.
I'm a veggie for exactly these reasons.
Scares like these should be enough to convince the public not to eat meat but i feel that with so many scares, seems there is a new one every week, that people are feeling its a bit "blah blah blah animal welfare at it again" and its lessened the effect it should have
the last quote on the piece made me smile
"The company says it has now taken action to ensure all employees handle animals humanely. "
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
so i wont be tried for murder if i kill "humanely" nice defence "huh your honour?"
Most people don't care, they will want to eat it anyway.
No I wouldn't.
Just a few points Geoff -
Michael didn't mention the word 'murder' at any point in his question, or in the 'additional information'.
You are assuming everybody who uses YA lives in America - they don't.
You don't think you might be guilty of just a wee bit of stereotyping of vegetarians do you? You haven't met all of them, after all.
Several meat eaters use this section regularly; yes we have our mad trolls (or, as is becoming increasingly clear, our mad troll, singular) who post here regularly too, but most of our regular meat-eaters are very welcome here. They are able to discuss things rationally, disagree without being abusive - and poke a little fun to make sure we don't take ourselves too seriously.
''Thats right You Veggies dont like to hear any other point of view do you.'' - stereotyping, as I said.
Edit** Vote Me - yes a great day! Ding dong...
Edit2** ok, Geoff - but if you had addressed your remarks to 'fi', as the username appears, I would have realised that your remarks were not addressed to Michael; as it is I thought it was some kind of abbreviation. Yes, I am able to read very well indeed - and punctuate too.
No, it is never acceptable or justified to stereotype, no matter which group of people you are talking about. If I were to be so crass as to begin a sentence 'You meat-eaters think' (I never would, any more than I would begin a sentence 'Blacks think' or 'Americans think') you and other meat-eaters would rightly be up in arms. Of course you don't all think, feel or do the same thing; nor do vegetarians.
what sick people these are - I cannot say with complete honesty that I am a veggie but I do not eat red meats.
That's why I don't even want to eat fast food. Dear god, I don't even know where it came from. But since I am still living with my parents, I would suppose I'd have to deal. I only eat chicken anyway, not KFC though cause I know that company for a fact abuses those poor creatures.
See, that's why me & my hubby switch to Turkey burgers.
bah, that's why I only buy from known or trusted retailers. I don't mind paying a little extra from suppliers such as Lobel's, Snake River Farms or Morgan Ranch. Eggs I get from a friend supplier, meat, outside of the three I mentioned above, from another friend who is a rancher. Most of our veggies and fruits are home grown so i don't have to worry about that either.
Unfortunately, not all people can afford the better quality items and these people, the ones who can least afford to get sick are often the victims.
to be fair Michael, that's why there is a recall. Because these were found to be sub standard.
I don't buy my beef from Wal-Mart so why should I be concerned by this? Mad Cow hardly happens over in the United States by the way. I don't even know if there has been one case. What you posted for a link was probably a 'news worthy' issue. You using it in this question looks like you are using it for strictly propaganda though. You only live once. I can't give up my medium rare hamburgers. I do apologize. But I respect your way of life. As long as questions like such aren't posted in forums other than the Vegan one.
Keep trying to change the world!! I'm in your corner. (eating a half-rack of ribs from Chili's)
Would you define this as "quality" food? Not high quality but there's nothing to say there was anything actually wrong with the meat.
"We don't think there is a health hazard, but we do have to take this action"
I noticed you didn't include this part in your post. The recall is precautionary whereas other recalls, both meat and produce, in the past were of confirmed contaminated product.
"The USDA classified the recall as Class 2 - meaning there is a remote probability that the product could harm health if consumed - and said investigators had found no cases of illness related to the meat."
This was not included in your post either. While the article itself may not be PETA type propaganda, your post is much closer. I know this is the veger section and all but I'll expect the same type of post from you at the next produce recall.
Either way, today is a great day.
exsft--"these were found to be sub standard."--the meat was recalled because it wasn't inspected.
I'm hoping that this story plays on news all over and people see it because they sure aren't watching it aywhere else but if its on the news,they'll watch and believe...im hopeful that they'll be less ignorant after it.
I think that all food have crap in them that make people sick and make more money for the top people ....and all agencies ....this is a great way to make people think how the media and the higher people try to make us fear ......fear and torturing is cruel but that's what it is a cycle of all greed .....poor cow that's why i watch what i eat ......soon enough in 2020 maybe we will be eating human
Are you forgetting all of the E coli recalls for spinach just last year.
So get off you vegitarian high horse and realise it happens to all food.
Oh yeah when you are complaining and worrying about those poor cows that can't stand just remember a lot of your salad ingredients are picked by illegal immigrants who are paid a non livable wage and work in sub human conditions without saftey in mind.
UMM DO YOU WANT YOUR DRESSING ON THE SIDE OF THAT SALAD?
I have nothing against people chosing to not eat meat, to each their own, but my problem is that most veggitarians think they are so much greater than everyone else becuase of their choice. Just more animals for me to each I guess.
Not an assumtion since the news is reporting that most farm employees are illegal immigrants so you are bound to get food picked by them.
Typical propagandist speech. Most slaughter houses would not have a problem opening their doors to TV cameras. In fact I have seen plenty of footage of slaughter houses that wasnt hidden camera footage. Did you miss the footage of the ilegals picking spinach in the fields and relieving themselves in the feild they were picking in then return to picking without washing their hands?
It happens in every industry.
By the way I have no problem with killing the animal myself. I have done it all my like from fish to deer. Butchered it and all. Most people dont want to see where their food actually comes from or how it was killed, but in the same breath not a lot of people want to see how their freedom is provided for them either.
FI are you scared to eat spinach now? There were about 7 major recalls of it last year due to e coli and that doesnt keep you from eating greens does it?
Sorry but killing an animal is not murder. It a part of life get over it. We have teeth that are made for eating meat we are made to eat meat.
YA stands for Yahoo Answers not Yahoo Agreement. So what I dont agree with your point of veiw. That is what this forum is about. Thats right You Veggies dont like to hear any other point of view do you.
I guess you missed my statement about respecting someone's right to choose to be a veggie but dont care for the ones looking down their nose at people who choose to eat meat like they are better for their choice and once again you have proven it.
Go look at the military section it is full of people's answers who dont agree with the war or even the military. As a disabled Iraq war vet I welcome them into the discussion, but you liberal Veggies are only liberal when someone views match yours
lo_mcg In case you are not able to read you will notice the murder comment was directed at FI not the asker. I even put FI before the comment. FI did mention murder. You need to read before you post.
Sterotypes are not always wrong. Almost everytime I read a post in Veggie section the questions & answers always say something to the likes of this "why cant people understand that eating meat is...." and stuff like that. Like veggies are the only enlightened ones. If someone posts a veiw that is not a veggies veiw they are jumped on. so go figure