Do Die-Hard Vegetarians Exterminate For Insects, Reptiles, and Rodents?!
Answers: Do Die-Hard Vegetarians Exterminate For Insects, Reptiles, and Rodents? If so, why? Doesn't a termite have as much the right to life than say, a cow or a chicken?
Great question only the die-hard vegetarian can answer for himself. Touches on a common philosophical debate. Why do we kill roaches but go to jail for killing dogs? Where do we draw the line? In the end, you answer the question with not killing anything you identify with. We don't relate to plants, so it's ok to kill them. We do identify with/relate to mammals, so we don't normally kill them. Unless they taste really, really good, like cows.
Probably...but VEGANS will not...it is a cruelty free lifestyle...all organic....but vegetarians just avoid meat
I'm not a vegetarian and I value the life of reptiles and rodents... I think mice are cute along with chinchillas that are considered rodents...and hamsters and gerbils.
Insects on the other hand... There's quite a few I could do without! Such as mosquitoes, roaches, ants, spiders...ok well all of them...they are gross! lol
i put the insect or rodent outside of my home.
What will killing it do for me. NOTHING! - so why do it?
I am not really grossed out by any insects or reptiles or rodent. I don't screm like a little girl everytime I see a bee! or a spider or a mouse! They do their thing, I do mine!
Its that simple! -
Do you understand? or would you like further clarification?
I befriend all life,
though i wouldn't classify this as due to my veganism.
it's more based upon my religious views, especially the principle of "ahimsa."
Though I must mention, If I find bugs in my house I normally just lead them outside, if not my girlfriend kills them.
Termite falls under "animalia". As do slugs. Interesting question to ponder.
I will have a few scotches and get back to you.
if they are a threat, in an instant i would kill them. if it doesn't harm me, i.e. rats in the shed where i keep tools they can't really hurt, then no i wouldn't kill them, but i would still try and get rid of them.
but a rat on the dinner table and it dies!
(even if it is a cute animated rat that cooks.)
Insects - Don't leave rotting food or garbage piles around. Or dirty dishes piled in the sink. Then you won't have problems. If you have bugs in your home, they have to be eating something and hiding somewhere, so start with eliminating those. The occasional spider can be taken outside.
Reptiles - I would be so so so tempted to keep it as a pet, but he'd have to go outside too. Can you even have a reptile infestation? that would be so cool.
Rodents - adopt a cute little kitty from your local animal shelter. Or get live traps and take them somwhere far away.
There are always options. Insects, rodent, and reptiles have been around for a long long time and people found ways to deal with them before the fumigation business started up.
A chicken isn't destroying my home, contaminating my food, and threatening to kill me (like poisonous spiders).
So yes, I kill what threatens me. I try to humanely deal with things when I can (like mice cubes instead of mouse traps).
Well, I don't have rodents or reptiles around.
As far as insects/spiders are concerned, if I'm quicker than my cat Maddie, I will catch them and put them out of doors.
If she gets to them first, then I won't fight her over them...if she was an outdoor cat, she'd be doing that anyway.
Besides, I don't have any probelm with ANIMALS consuming ANIMALS. (that's what they are supposed to do)
The intent of your question, obviously, is to make vegetarians look like hypocrites. I'm sorry you feel the need to do that.
Not even the strictest vegan can prevent all death. Every time we get in our cars, a few bugs will splatter against the grille or the window as we drive down the road.
That doesn't make anyone a hypocrite. Just because you can't stop all suffering doesn't mean you shouldn't try at all. That's like saying that since you can't stop all crime, you might as well not arrest any crimimals.
Every vegetarian and vegan has to make his or her own choices in matters like these. There is no right or wrong answer. It's up to one's conscience. Me, I'd set humane traps for mice and try to seal up holes to keep them from getting back in the house. I already pick up spiders and toss them outside, because my wife is terrified of them. But when we had fleas on our animals, we used Frontline on all of them, because there was no effective way to humanely get rid of the flea colony. I'd probably do the same thing if we had roaches or ants. I'd exterminate them, because it's the only way to get a handle on an infestation. Yes, it's an imperfect solution, but you have to pick your battles. And controlling a pest that can do harm to your house, your health, or your pets and children is NOT the same as choosing, out of compassion, to not eat meat.
Reptiles: I grab 'em (with a thick glove!) and release them outside.
Rodents: Use a no-kill mouse trap to catch and release (hopefully far away).
Insects: Varies. Most spiders, grasshoppers, etc. I try to put a cup over them so they are trapped, then I put something underneath it and release them outside. I live in the boonies, and sometimes critters are too big (tarantulas) for that, so I use a broom and sweep them outside. I do kill insects that I believe are threats to my or others' safety. I regularly kill scorpions (crawl up my kitchen sink), brown recluse spiders, and occasionally black widows. I would use poison to get rid of termites because I think a house falling on top of me is a serious safety issue.
This has less to do with vegetarianism than just my general spiritual beliefs. I try not to kill unless it is necessary.
Because termites have much more of a direct impact on our living arrangements than a cow or chicken does, we can live in harmony with them, but not termites.
Seriously, you are one a hundred people who come here asking these mundane questions, and yours hardly make the cut....I mean ARE YOU SERIOUS?
alright, here goes. I am Vegan, and if there were termites or insects wreaking havoc on my home, I wouldn't capture each one, pull out their legs one by one, poke out their eyes then throw them in a vat of acid....you see, I would exterminate them.
What us humans are doing within the factory farms is a disgrace. We have all kinds of excuses...but when it comes down to it, it is torture, suffering and murder.
Say what you will, support what you will, but until you have actually been to a slaughter house and feel completely ok with your choice to support them, you have absolutely no valid reason to come here and harass people who are taking a stand and choosing a life which is not as comfortable as blindly eating whatever is in front of me not knowing or caring where it came from.
i'm "hardcore vegan", and i have lived in a home with other vegetarians and vegans. one year our house became infested with mice, dozens of them, but we didn't kill them. we got a cat instead. we also had ants, and we lived with them. that might sound gross but being vegan is about respecting another species right to live, even if it's inconvenient.
Define 'die-hard'?
As a vegetarian - I put mothballs around the foundation of places that I don't want snakes to come around (they don't like mothballs) and I am putting 'snake plants' which according to old wife's tales is suppose to keep snakes away (will see if that really works).
Mice - my dog kills them.
Insects - my other half used to take care of that for me. Since he left - to be seen how I am going to deal with them.......
I will exterminate anything that I consider a serious or significant THREAT to me, my family or my property (not that I have a family, but that's another story). I'm not the kind of person who freaks out when I see a bug, especially a harmless one.
Probably not. It's sad that they would but a stupid bug or rodent's life above their's.
I've seen many vegetarians/vegans say that an animal's life is just as important as a humans. I wonder if they would feel that way if they were caught in a burning building with a dog. Who should we save?