Why is it that when you ask a question and say "no offence" people get offended and insulting?!
Answers: I asked a question earlier about vegans.. and weather people are rea,lly ment to eat meat.... I said that i felt that "because animals suffer" shouldn't just be the reason.... I wanted to know peoples ideas and reasons for them being vegan and weather people really were ment to eat meat or not... some people got offensive and insulting calling me stupid and ignorant.... Since when is an open minded person sharing her ideas with other and wanting to know what other people thoughts were is ignorant? What do you think... should i be feeling bad or insulted?
Aaron, Michael, and lo_mcg are right. You have to be careful how you phrase your questions.
Also, there are a few people who come here and post similar "questions" (if that's what you want to call them) just to start trouble. I guess you can see why your question was interpreted in such a way. Be more careful next time and if you want you can probably still delete the question....
if you're going to ask someone about their veganism, do it in a nice manner. don't say no offense. they'll think you're offending them. if someone asks me about my vegetarianism and say "no offense", i'm probably going to think that they have a problem with it. you're not ignorant unless you start insulting THEM.
because when they hear "no offense" they are prepared to feel some sort of verbal abuse thats what im guessing i never really thought about that thats a good question
next time maybe try something like
really just want to learn, or
exploring my options need advise
but yes, I would be offended by the people that got offensive, even if they though that was what I was trying to be. but then, it proves they don't have anything rational on their side of the argument, doesn't it, if they have to go down to that level.
It's usually used as an excuse to be tactless and insulting.
I think you need to kill a chicken, gut it, pluck its feathers, and cut into the convenient boneless pieces you would find in the grocery store. This would change your view on meat for sure.
You would rethink and at the very least respect what you are eating. Instead you pay a butcher to do the all the dirty work.
You shouldn't feel insulted or bad about your question because you don't really understand what goes on in the meat industry.
here is a small taste for you, click the link and learn . . .
Peoples beliefs are private matters. Everyone has their own reasons and their is no reason to argue about it..
Ppl are going to be offended and insulted no matter what you say and how you say it, some ppl just have there bums on there shoulders...I wouldnt pay any mind to them..just look over them, its nothing wrong with asking questions..
I remember that question. You didn't phrase it like an open minded person would. You said "we are meant to eat meat, so why are you all vegan" or something like that. If I am totally off the mark, please post the link to your previous question. An open minded way of phrasing it would be like you did just now "do you think we are meant to eat meat"
I also remember your question, it did come off very offensive. You said "animal abuse is not an excuse" when you asked why people were vegans when we are supposed to eat meat. I found it offensive, because I don't eat meat because of animal abuse. It is very important to me, it is not an excuse. It is a dam good reason to not eat animals. Next time you want to ask something like that, don't tell us that one of the reasons (that a lot of people do it for) is not an excuse. We don't need an excuse for a sympathetic desion for the better lives of living pain feeling beings. It really felt like to me that you were saying that it wasn't a good reason to be veg. because of animal suffering. Like the animals don't matter.
Nobody prefaces or ends something with "no offense" unless they're saying something offensive.
Well, when you say "no offense" it's a passive-aggressive warning that you are about to say something offensive.
When you're dealing with a diverse culture, it's important to ask others about their beliefs in a very respectful way.
Sorry, but reading a poorly written question (with horrible grammar and spelling) is similar to listening to a person who is yelling at you. You're more likely to notice they're yelling than hear their words. And unfortunately for people who have difficulties spelling, people are more likely to think you're ignorant when your spelling is so poor, because that's about all they can tell about you. In real life, we observe each other's faces, bodies, clothes, etc. The words we choose are important, but so is body language, tone, appearance, etc. Online, wording is EVERYTHING. "No offense" ironically sets an offensive tone. I would suggest asking people whether or not they feel we are meant to eat meat "because I just want to learn about various beliefs." Ask to see sites you may learn from, and let someone else proof-read the question before you post it.
You are rewriting history just a tad; you didn't 'ask' whether people are really meant to eat meat - you said ''people are ment to eat meat....why be a vegan....? ( i don't think " becuase animals sufer" is an excuse)''.
Can you see the difference? Your original 'question' is actually quite aggressive, is not phrased as a question and suggests that people need an 'excuse' for their dietary choices, an 'excuse' you are not prepared to accept.
Although you say you were asking for ideas and seeking to learn more, you weren't. To be honest, i think you thought it was a clever and original question and that users of V&V would be hard put to come up with intelligent answers. You were wrong.
Had you phrased your question ''What are your reasons for being vegan? I think we are meant to eat meat, and 'because animals suffer' doesn't seem to me sufficient reason not to eat meat. What do others think?', you would very likely have got some very different answers. THAT would have been more indicative of an open-minded person sharing ideas and seeking views, and I for one would have answered differently.
No, you shouldn't be feeling bad or insulted; you should be feeling that you have learned a valuable lesson on how to pose an interesting, searching and intelligent question in the future. People were not 'offended' by your question, they felt it was silly and answered it as befitted such a question.
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you didn't ask a question. You STATED people were meant to eat meat.
Here's a reminder:
"No offense to vegan /vegita but people are ment to eat meat....?"
I've no idea if that is offensive or not, but please quote yourself correctly.
why would you ever start a question with "No offense..." ?Doesn't that tell you, and everyone else, that you at least thought it might be offensive to some people and yet continued to post ??
Yuo describe yourself as an "open minded person". Your question was closed. You presented the answer in the question ( which was really a statement )
Yuo immediately followed your headline statemetn with "( i don't think " becuase animals sufer" is an excuse)"
Sorry, but you need to take responsiblity for the responses you got because of the way you posed the question
Any time someone says "No offense but..." it's usually a cop-out, they can say something offensive or insulting and assume no responsibility because they "instructed" the other person not to get offended.
It's like me saying, " Your hair cut is hideous... no offense!"
Someone once came up to me, a total stranger, and said, "Your jeans are really ugly, I would never wear them, but no offense, girl."
... LMAO!
I mean, think about it, you can't just tell people "no offense" and then say anything you want. Not only was your statement incorrect to begin with (it was just your opinion regarding meat consumption), but you said it in the form of a statement - as in, "this has to be true. Meat is meant to be eaten by people. No offense." You posted this in the Vegetarian and Vegan section - OBVIOUSLY most people here disagree with your statement, making it doubly likely that they'd be offended.
It's like going to the Religion and Spirituality section like some do and saying "Zeus is God, everyone else is wrong. No offense". Um, HECK yeah people will be offended.
I stick to my original answer. You are an insulting person and should hide your head in shame.
Don't feel bad or insulted. Vegetarians can get irritated easily. Lacking nutrients will drive you insane.
Its not right that you were insulted for asking a sincere question. Vegans get in a huff when they hear someone asking a question about meat, especially when your not in favor of their agenda.