Is there anything beyond vegan?!
Then there are omnivores that try to go organic, but that's limited.
Then there are "vegetarians" that eat fish (meat, no argument there), and/or eggs and dairy, (whatever).
Then there are "true" vegetarians, I guess (plant substance only).
Then there are "vegans" (organic uncooked plant substance).
Is there anything beyond that? What's the purest, most ethical way that I could live without harming animals? I mean, no processing, transportation, oil consumption, packaging, warehouses, "organic" clothing made in factories, and on and on if you get my meaning. Even Buddhist monks have to destroy animal habitats to build their temples and grow their plants. What's beyond that?
Answers: There are people that will eat any kind of meat. They don't care about where it came from, how it was killed, and so on.
Then there are omnivores that try to go organic, but that's limited.
Then there are "vegetarians" that eat fish (meat, no argument there), and/or eggs and dairy, (whatever).
Then there are "true" vegetarians, I guess (plant substance only).
Then there are "vegans" (organic uncooked plant substance).
Is there anything beyond that? What's the purest, most ethical way that I could live without harming animals? I mean, no processing, transportation, oil consumption, packaging, warehouses, "organic" clothing made in factories, and on and on if you get my meaning. Even Buddhist monks have to destroy animal habitats to build their temples and grow their plants. What's beyond that?
People who live like this are called gatherers. They are usually associated with hunter/gatherer tribal peoples or societies. I wouldn't consider someone that drove a car, rode a bike, or even walked to a forest to gather foods to be a true gatherer, as chances are they are still living in such a manner that does put a major dent in animal habitats.
I will tell you though, most hunter gatherer peoples do have to take animals from time to time. This is more common in Northern climates, as there are edible plant shortages during winter months. You would also need hides to make clothing and bones to make tools.
Even if you could find a place that could support you on a completely plant based diet all year long, you would still have to be free of all things manufactured if you didn't want to harm animals by all the means mentioned above. Good luck.
Edit: I think there are "intentional societies" as you put it. But I recommend buying a book and learning about the wild edibles in your area first, and taking some survival classes as well. But there is still a chance that you will be attached to "civilization", at least during your training. I tried it in remote parts of Florida, and I still had to eat fish, and the occasional animal. You would have to be a real extremist to live as a gatherer, sorry to say, but if you take this route, it's highly unlikely that you can be a vegetarian year round.
Here are some schools.
http://www.trackerschool.com/
http://www.boss-inc.com/
If you want to know about wild plant identifcation in your area, feel free to contcat me via my profile and let me know where you live. I can help you find books about that area/region.
Here's a site that may help you.
http://www.tribal-living.co.uk/forums/in...
Beyond vegan: raw vegan, fruitarian, freegan
I would start by looking up correct definitions. And why all the parenthesis? What are you REALLY trying to say?
Buy some seeds like pumpkin, tomato, peas etc. and grow your own food at home. No packaging, transportation, oil consumption or processing... Its a good way to start anyway if you have a garden
yes, macrobiothicals
its really really complicated, they dont even drink the regular water
Vegan does not mean raw foodist.
There is:
Lacto vegetarian
Ovo vegetarian
lacto-ovo vegetarian
strict vegetarian
vegan (the only one where moral concern for animals is a given)
raw foodist (may be vegetarian, vegan, or omni)
fruitarian (may or may not be vegan; vegan extends to lifestyle)
and so on.
The best you can do is to do the best you can.
If you want the freshest, healthiest food, you can grow your own.
First of all, vegetarians don't eat fish. Those who eat dairy and/or eggs are ovo-lacto vegetarians (lacto if it's just dairy, ovo if it's just eggs).
Vegans don't eat any animal products, but they will eat cooked foods. I eat plenty of vegan yummies that have been baked, cooked, fried...
Raw foodists do not eat any food cooked above 118 degrees (although the temperature varies depending on which source you talk with). They eat raw fruits, raw veggies, nuts, sprouted foods, and will use a dehydrator at low temperatures.
Fruitarians eat only foods from plants where the food can be taken without destroying the plant (so foods eaten as vegetables, such as tomatoes and avocadoes are acceptable). That is perhaps the strictest diet. And it's not very practical, as few people have access to farms with various varieties of foods. If you have space, you could certainly try creating a garden of various types of foods and using cuttings and other plant waste to fertilize new plants.
Completely avoiding harm to animals is almost impossible if you want to be practical. The very act of harvesting some foods may cause harm to minute insects. Short of living in a cave without electricity, what are you going to do?
i cant remember the name but there are vegetarians that only have sex with other vegetarians because there is meat in there system or something like that...
Death!!