A question for veggies:Do you know that plants have life so how can you eat it?!
"Plants seem to know which ants will steal their nectar, closing when these ants are about, opening only when there is enough dew on their stems to keep the ants from climbing. The more sophisticated acacia plant actually enlists the protective services of certain ants which it rewards with nectar in return for the ants' protection against other insects and herbivorous mammals," thus serving the same function as friends and allies do in the animal and human realms. Some vegetation develop a bitter taste, some ooze gummy secretions, while others grow thorns to defend themselves.
Acacia trees produce tannin to defend themselves when they are grazed upon by animals. The airborne scent of the tannin is picked up by other acacia trees, which then start to produce tannin themselves as a protetction from the nearby animals. When attacked by caterpillars, some plants can release chemical signals to attract parasitic wasps that attack the caterpillars
Answers: All botanists agree that plants have life here is an example:
"Plants seem to know which ants will steal their nectar, closing when these ants are about, opening only when there is enough dew on their stems to keep the ants from climbing. The more sophisticated acacia plant actually enlists the protective services of certain ants which it rewards with nectar in return for the ants' protection against other insects and herbivorous mammals," thus serving the same function as friends and allies do in the animal and human realms. Some vegetation develop a bitter taste, some ooze gummy secretions, while others grow thorns to defend themselves.
Acacia trees produce tannin to defend themselves when they are grazed upon by animals. The airborne scent of the tannin is picked up by other acacia trees, which then start to produce tannin themselves as a protetction from the nearby animals. When attacked by caterpillars, some plants can release chemical signals to attract parasitic wasps that attack the caterpillars
AWESOME POINT! LOL
these people have crazy ideas and beliefs anyway!
Uh huh. Why do meat-eaters preach to the choir? Of course we know plants are alive. Yes, I am destroying and crushing the very life out of a carrot when I eat it. I totally know that. However I also know that it does not feel any pain. Animals do feel pain.
I don't know what you're trying to prove. That plants have life? Everyone knows that. Are you saying plants know what they are doing? No, everything you described has a simple biochemical and/or evolutionary basis. The tannins, the honeydew, the defensive thorns - these are all created by mutation and natural selection, not some intelligent plant brain cooking up new ideas.
Plants don't feel pain, When animals do.
1. Caterpillar attacks plant
2. Enzymes released by the caterpillar or by damaged plant cells induce a chemical pathway (known as signal transduction) that turn on certain genes and turn off other genes. These genes code for certain proteins, which in turn help manufacture certain compounds such as the tannins you described. These chemical pathways evolved and were fine-tuned over time. Those plants which were unable to respond effectively were decimated by the caterpillars and were removed from the gene pool. Those that responded in the right manner survived and began to dominate the gene pool. What was once a random chemical cascade turned into a mainstream plant defense mechanism.
This is Darwin's theory of evolution compressed into one paragraph. It has nothing to do with sentience or intelligence.
Plants are complex organisms governed by very simple chemistry. The problem is that there are a bazillion chemical pathways all operating simultaneously, which is why it *appears* as though they are directing it. They are not.
noduh plants are alive
but they dont have opinions or have to watch their fellow plants be slaughtered open and tehn taken away to be eaten!!
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Yes, it's true that plants are alive - just as bacteria are alive. Yet there's currently no reason to believe that plants (or bacteria) feel pain, as they do not have central nervous systems, nerve endings, or brains.
It's theorized that animals are able to feel pain so that they can use it for self-protection purposes. For example, if you touch something hot and feel pain, you'll learn from the pain that you should not touch that item in the future. Since plants can't move from place to place and don't need to learn to avoid certain things, this sensation would serve no purpose.
If you're truly concerned about the welfare of plants, going vegetarian is still the best option. This is because the vast majority of grains and legumes raised today are used as feed for farmed animals, and meat production is very inefficient. (For instance, cows have to eat 16 pounds of plant material in order to convert them into 1 pound of flesh). You can save many more plants’ lives by eating vegetables directly.
dude, because plants don't have to be slaughtered and crushed and torn apart with blood spurting everywhere. plants can be regrown, but how would you like to see somebody plant another cow?
Some people are against eating meat because they think it is cruel to the animal. They can't just start eating dirt if they think its wrong to hurt living things. Eating meat and eating plants are very different things.
The first person to answer is right, these are just reactions from natural selection. Plants that mutated to have a trait that made it less likely to be eaten survived better than those that didn't. Its offspring are more likely to have that trait, and are more likely to survive and pass it on to their offspring. Over time, the trait becomes more refined and it develops into its own species. In any species, plant or animal, the most basic point of life is to survive. If a living thing does not develop something to keep it alive, it would not exist anymore. This has absolutely nothing to do with thought.
Do you know that plants have life so how can you eat it?
Yes, I know that.
Plants, however, do not feel pain. A "brain" is needed to process the sensation from the stimuli. Plants reactions are either chemical or electric, therefore, the plant does not "suffer".
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Vegetarians eat non-sentient life, sweetheart, unlike yourself.
Well, I'm not a vegetarian for animal rights reasons. So how can I be a vegetarian? I just can, there is no contradiction for me.
kiss for luck, that's only in animals, plants are not animals they are plant life, so pain with plants would work different.
see: "The secret life of plants" by Chris Byrd
Also, with fruitarians, very strict vegans, they only eat parts of a plant that would fall off naturally or can be taken from the plant without destroying it.
I have found this info from a different website. FyI
First, “life” in Buddhism has a different meaning from what we learnt from school. From a broader perspective, life in Buddhism may have 6 phases (fairy, ghost, human, animal, …) and is nevertheless everlasting. When a person “dies”, it doesn’t mean his life is over but would instead transform into another life. What will his next life be (a fairy or a person again) depends on what he had done in his current life.
Why is killing not allowed in Buddhism? Because Buddhism believes what you did previously will determine what you will receive subsequently. If you don’t want to be killed or eaten, don’t do the same to other lives.
Why is “killing plants” “allowed” in Buddhism? Because plants are considered living creatures in science but not in Buddhism. In fact, what is the definition of life in Buddhism? Life is those beings which are subject to the 6 phases of lives and have the ability to do something and subsequently enjoy or suffer the consequences. It seems that plants do not qualify. Similarly, bacteria and virus are excluded. That may be why sterilization and/or antibiotics are also allowed in Buddhism.
Some traditional Chinese legends said that some plants (or even stones) can become fairies after several thousand years (with some peculiar experience, known as “Yuen”) but I don’t think they are genuine Buddhist stories.
Some may argue that the above is only the periphery of the Buddhist core beliefs. They are probably correct. Nowadays, Buddhism is more like a branch of philosophy and seldom talk about life after life. What do you think?
jeez, we're not veggies, ve-ge-ta-ri-ans, get it right.
and plants dont feel pain, and im an animals lover, so i dont want to eat dead ones right?
but dont get me wrong, if i had a better choice, i wouldnt eat plants either.