Why do some people who eat fish consider themselves vegetarian?!
''One who does not consume meat, flesh or by products of slaughter''
Fish is flesh.
If you eat fish- you are NOT vegetarian. Period.
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Answers: The Vegetarian Society defines a vegetarian as
''One who does not consume meat, flesh or by products of slaughter''
Fish is flesh.
If you eat fish- you are NOT vegetarian. Period.
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Heya Scottie,
Yeah posted a similar question few days ago. I think it's because there is so much misinformation out there, and some people really don't understand what it means to be veggie or vegan. Others I guess try and convince themselves they are veg, just to ease their conscience. Plus people find it harder to relate to fish because they aren't cute and cuddley, or live on land.
But it is really quite simple, I don't know why people just don't get it. fish = animal = meat.... therefore not vegetarian.
You are absolutley right they are not vegetarian they are pescatarian. If they are claiming to be vegetarian, they are wrong.
Because some people actually believe that fish and poultry don't count. When I was becoming veg I went slowly getting rid of cow and pig meat but still ate chicken and turkey. Most people I know were calling me a vegetarian (they were meat eaters), I would always try to correct them but it never worked.
It's their choice if they want to define themselves as Vegetarians. People don't see fish on the same level as other animals.
And, i've reported you for that "retarded retard" comment, if you want to make fun of the disabled, its your own watch - but keep your own views off the internet if they're like that!
Yeah it's true they aren't vegetarian if they consume Fish.
This false view that Fish doesn't abide to the meat category comes from the religious tradition, where Friday was considered to be only Fish and Vegetable day. Since our "religious ancestors" consumed a lot of meat, Fish and Veggie day was "Vegetarian".
My aunt swears she is vegetarian but eats fish every day, to her fish isn't meat, so yeah, fight with the ignorant and they'll drag you down and beat you with experience.
Because they are hippocrits.
I dont get that either they start preaching how animals should be treated as humans but what about fish!! Are fish just not "cool" enough to be spared with the rest of the animals???
carrots are the way to go man...
peace out
I agree with you. However, even though a true vegetarian does not eat fish, there are some people who still eat it and are classified as a vegetarian. I still don't think that it should count. I guess it's mostly for the people who give up their red meat to lower their cholesterol or lose weight or whatever, and God forbid they go a day without eating their pets.....
VEGETARIAN:
Vegetarian is a blanket term used to describe a person who does not consume meat, poultry, fish, or seafood. This grouping includes vegans and the various sub- categories of vegetarian; however, it generally implies someone who has less dietary restrictions than a vegan.
SEMI-VEGETARIAN:
The term semi-vegetarian is usually used to describe someone who is a vegetarian who consumes dairy products, eggs, chicken, and fish, but does not consume other animal flesh.
OVO-LACTO-VEGETARIAN:
Ovo-lacto vegetarians are vegetarians who do not consume meat, poultry, fish, and seafood, but do consume eggs and milk. This is the largest group of vegetarians.
OVO-VEGETARIAN:
Ovo-vegetarian is a term used to describe someone who would be a vegan if they did not consume eggs.
LACTO-VEGETARIAN:
Lacto-vegetarian is a term used to describe someone who would be a vegan if they did not consume milk.
VEGAN:
Vegan is the strictest sub-category of vegetarians. Vegans do not consume any animal products or by-products. Some go as far as not even consuming honey and yeast. Others do not wear any clothing made from animal products.
Important:Take some time to figure out for yourself, what group you will belong to when you become a vegetarian. You will want to consider both dietary and ethical reasons for choosing this lifestyle.
Here is the veggie soc's campaign on this fishy business:
http://www.vegsoc.org/fish/
my profile also has links to what the IVU and VIVA say about it.
In the face of that body of opinion, you would think people would understand the true defintion but it seems not.
Its been a problem for many years, compounded by the internet and many "homegrown" websites set up to look like pillars of authority or organisations but who don't really amount to much.
words like strict, semi, demi, flexi, pesci-veggie etc don't help either. You are veggie, or not.
this is a rant not a question so I expect it will be deleted soon..
But my two points stay!!
I hate fish! Ask those who are addicted to fish!
i think some people just think that not eating red meat makes them a vegeterian. but you are right, that fish is also a type of "meat". did you know that some people even consider themselves a vegeterian if they eat chicken, because it is a "white" meat?
Hi,
I was a vegetarian and I ate fish, now I gave up fish and eggs when it turned 2008. There is a type of vegetarian that eats fish called a pesco vegetarian. So people that eat fish are vegetarian. If you do not believe me please look at this link:
http://www.msu.edu/user/daenzerr/rd491/t...
That link shows the different types of vegetarians. I do consider myself more of a vegetarian now since I gave up fish and eggs. I will occasionaly eat eggs...but only egg whites. I have only broken being a lacto-vegetarian once though.
So that is why people consider themselves vegetarians if they still eat fish....because there is a type of vegetarian that eats fish called a pesco-vegetarian.
Also, who says we cannot make up our OWN type of vegetarianism? Like for example eating fish but not eggs or milk OR considering yourself VEGAN but eat fish? There are no rules about if you are a "vegetarian you cannot eat _________" personaly I think WE should choose if we want to be considered what type of vegetarianism. I do think though the regular guidelines like "not eating meat" should still be in effect.
I hope this helps!!! =]
these people really annoy me - I always put people right with this as I live in a very ignorant environment regarding vegan and veggie issues, and tell them that these people are NOT vegetarian - they are pescatarians.
All I can imagine is that they have not bothered to educate themselves as to what a veggie really does eat, and they really are a pain in the bum!
Because they slept through their biology classes :D
It's just a matter of intelligence level and awareness.
But if you should meet somebody with a PhD eating fish and calling himself or herself "vegetarian", this would be ignorance on purpose.
A vegetarian is somebody who does not eat animals. Fish IS an animal. A person must be plain dumb to not to know this :D
Add. Info: I did NOT meant that somebody is "not allowed" to eat fish! My hubby is eating meat and fish and all. And I do not like labels.
Only, for "vegetarian", fish is not a vegetable. That's the point here. I did not meant to insult people eating fish, I was laughing about the ignorance of those, who consider an animal as a vegetable.
Like this one bratty kid from Simpsons would say: ha-HA :D
Because they probably don't realize that they have a name for themselves. They are Pescatarians, so next time you hear someone say that they are veggies when they are not, politely correct them.
I find it interesting that you concern yourself with the slaughter of animals, and then use an incredibly offensive pejorative like "retard."
Many people choose to eliminate meat and poultry from their diets because of the way the animals are raised. Fish are not tortured.
People who eat fish aren't vegetarian, but they should be congratulated on not eating red meat or poultry. They are reducing greenhouse gases and should be encouraged.
As far as I'm concerned they can call themselves whatever they want.
Sorry if this comes off as a rant, but this sort of annoys me. Why does it matter to you? Yes, they are ill-informed, yes the correct term is Pescetarian, but since I joined only 1 month ago this is the 3rd or 4th rant against fish-eaters. Get over it, how people choose to live their lives is of no concern to you. A pescetarian is doing more for animal welfare than a fully-fledged carnivore so I don't understand why everyone is always on their backs. And before anyone comments, I am a vegetarian (as in a proper vegetarian) but my partner is a pescetarian (eats fish perhaps once per month, if that).
The Catholic Church would differentiate fish from other flesh foods and allow its adherence to have fish on Friday, but no other meat.
In the Jewish religion, the laws of kashrut do not treat fish as meat. In fact, eating fish and, say, steak is not allowed under the rules of kashrut. Jewish law also forbids mixing meat and milk, but one can eat fish with dairy dishes.
I think religious dietary laws not counting fish as meat might have something to do with it.
Because we can and don't need your permission or approval. Definitions change everyday, sorry you and many others aren't progressive enough to understand this.
well technicaly they're not vegetarians but they're still eating less meat than anyone else would. so it doesn't really matter.
Yeah, point made.
But then again, there are vegetarians and vegans.
I mean, make up ur mind! If you don't eat meat then don't use butter!
You know, I'll bet there's a handful of vegans out there who wear leather shoes.