Does it really help people, if you prove to them that their lifestyle is making them sick?!
This is exactly what vegan low fat food does and what any other diet does not. I started 5 days ago - and so far, the rashes are gone, my fever is gone, my intestinal pains are gone, my skin is suddenly fair and smooth. I ate almost solely fruits and vegetables the last days, mostly raw.
My husband was very skeptical about my choice, but after the last 5 days, he isn't opposed anymore.
But, is there any benefit in telling anybody about this findings? And then get yelled at and insulted? Isn't it much better to just let them suffer from their food choices?
But I do not do this with my hubby, I always discuss with him about my choices and show him the books and the tests from my doctor, but he does care about me, and others do not.
Answers: I mean, my husband is not a vegetarian. I do not consider meat eating people as "monsters". I was myself forced to go vegan by my life threatening disease (Lupus). I will probably die anyway, but I want at least lower the pains.
This is exactly what vegan low fat food does and what any other diet does not. I started 5 days ago - and so far, the rashes are gone, my fever is gone, my intestinal pains are gone, my skin is suddenly fair and smooth. I ate almost solely fruits and vegetables the last days, mostly raw.
My husband was very skeptical about my choice, but after the last 5 days, he isn't opposed anymore.
But, is there any benefit in telling anybody about this findings? And then get yelled at and insulted? Isn't it much better to just let them suffer from their food choices?
But I do not do this with my hubby, I always discuss with him about my choices and show him the books and the tests from my doctor, but he does care about me, and others do not.
Hi!
First of all, I'm THRILLED to hear that a vegan diet has helped your health and well-being! I'm a nurse, and believe me I'll remember this "discussion" the next time I care for a patient living with Lupus.
I find the best way to win people over about veganism is to live your truth and be a shining example of what veganism really is - healthy, happy, satisfying, and a completely normal way of life. When skeptics see you living vegan and living well, it helps combat some of the nonsense that some non-vegans believe to be true about veganism, that is that it's difficult, costly, or "extreme."
You won't have to evangelize (or, "vegangelize") to people. Believe me, when friends and family members notice you're abstaining from non-vegan foods, they'll ask you about it. That's your opportunity to tell them "I'm vegan now, and it feels great. I'll bet if you tried it, you'd feel great too." That's all you need to do. There's no need to push the issue. (Pushing will only push people away, anyway.)
Be a living example, and you'll do wonders for the cause. Actions speak louder than words, and they go alot further too.
Best of luck!
Don't even try to talk people into you'r lifestyle. Even though it is the healthy way to live, people are hard headed and refuse to see that. But, I also wouldn't allow people to insult the way I choose to live. My thing is if I don't insult YOUR way of living, don't insult mine. I don't try to change you, don't try to change me.
That's what I've learned from the past 5 years of being veg.
Um... ok. Maybe you should give it a little more than 5 days before you preach to others. No one likes people who force their lifestyles on others. Especially after such a brief span of time! There's a way of giving helpful suggestions (if asked for) and a way of just being rude and condescending.
My mother has a very rare disease that prevents her from eating many things. She and I have had this conversation more than once. As one who doesn't have the focus to maintain a strict diet myself, I came away from these discussions with the following conclusion:
It is valuable to share the experiences that have improved your life...even to the point of invoking a good spirited debate. But ultimately, whether others apply things that you have learned to their own lives is entirely up to them.
As in most areas of life people tend to be lazy. So the effort of changing one's life (completely altering what they eat for example) requires too much effort. So there will definitely be hesitation by many others to adapt to the restrictions that you were "forced" (if you would call it that) into because of your illness.
I would suggest remembering this thing: If you begin to feel that sharing what you've learned becomes like a job, or seems to take effort rather than being anything other than an opportunity to share, stop. Because it's not your responsibility to make sure that others are healthy. You have to many other things in your life that are much more important. It is quite posisible to be a feeling, caring, and giving person without taking on that added responsibility.
Seeing that you have lupus, I recognize your desire to help others, but please, don't do so to the detrimant of yourself.
Good luck and I pray that you feel well and have many painfree years to share with others the benefits of the diets you have found.
If people ask, I do not see any harm in telling them. If your conversing w/ someone and they ask why you are vegan, I don't see the harm in saying it helps alleviate some of the symptoms of your Lupus. I wouldn't go on about how it may be the next miracle cure, but simply stating the benefits that you are seeing is fine.
I'm not quite sure what you're asking.
Proving to someone that their lifestyle is making them sick is not easy. For many life threatening illnesses, yours included, there is no scientific proof that any food causes or helps treat the illness.
I too have had a life threatening illness; I am currently in remission, but there is no cure and a recurrence can happen at any time. Any ache, any pain may mean cancer has metastasised. I have the sword of Damocles hanging over my head for the rest of my life.
I can't count the number of people who were keen to offer dietary advice when I was diagnosed. In the main, they advocated a dairy-free diet, as the theories of Jane Plant were quite high profile at the time. But I had been a vegan for over 8 years, after several decades of being a vegetarian.
With respect, your five days of being a vegan do not put you in a position to prove to anyone that their lifestyle is making them sick. Most people with serious illnesses are in no way to blame for their own condition, and are not helped by people suggesting that they brought it on themselves.
Edit** From your additional information, it appears you are relying on anecdotal evidence. I caution against relying on unsubstantiated testimonials - you have no way of knowing the person was ever ill in the first place, much less that they are 'cured'; the plural of anecdote is not data.
There are no 'miraculous' cures from cancer. My impression is that you have the zeal of the new convert.
I wish you well.
Edit2** I am rewriting my second edit, because I was extremely angry when I first wrote it. But I still want to caution you to be very careful about comparing someone to a Holocaust denier; this is extremely offensive and may be even more so when you have no idea of the person’s history or that of their family. It was an extremely inappropriate choice of words, and was clearly directed at me personally and at anyone else who questioned the validity of relying on the results of a 5 day dietary experiment to preach to others about how they might cure disease.
Before and after pictures on the internet and unsubstantiated testimonials of miraculous cures are not evidence that diet or anything else can turn disease around. You suspect I am a disguised professional or lobbyist when I say I had been vegan for many years before my cancer diagnosis. It is true however, and an organic vegan diet didn’t stop me from getting cancer, didn’t cure me and I’d be very foolish to rely on it to prevent recurrence or metastasis.
I have spent a great deal more time than you apparently have on investigating the possible connection between food and diet, and I took great offence at your words.
I hope your condition improves; I know that unlike me you cannot enjoy the luxury of remission. But I do fear that by investing all your hope in one strategy you may be heading for disappointment and disillusion - and I say this because I have been there. I was an 'alternatives' enthusiast when I got cancer. I'm not now.
And it is certainly too soon to be advocating your new diet as the 'miracle' cure for serious illness.
It depends on the person and how you teach them to change their lifestyle.
My husband is not a vegan. Yes, I worry about his health and we do talk about it but I never make him feel bad while he is eating. He agrees with my lifestyle but he just can't go there. I still hope. Sometimes it is also the culture that can be a hinderance. My husband is Asian and his culture eats a lot of meat. He enjoys the comaderie at the restaurants and I understand that. But my husband loves tofu, soy milk, rice and beans so he eats a lot of my meals.
You just need to cook lots of good food and share it with him. My husband has had many all vegan days just because he is too lazy to go out and likes my food. I do not cook with animal products ever.
First of all, you would have to be planning to make yourself look foolish if you are going to tell people that being vegan for five days (or a week or even a few months) relieved all or most of your symptoms. Any attempt to explain that a vegan diet is superior to what anyone else is eating will only harm the chances of that person seeing veganism in a positive light.
If you have only been eating a vegan diet for such a short period of time, no one that you know that isn't extremely close to you ,such as your husband, should even know about it. Even mentioning it to your parents will sound silly as you have been doing it for barely any length of time at all.
There have been people advocating a vegan diet for decades, so don't allow yourself the feeling that you may change the world. The only way that you may positively influence other people is by living a vegan lifestyle while maintaining good health and displaying and enviable attitude and personality.
This means that you talk about everything but yourself and what you think everyone else should do while being friendly and interested in what others have to say.
ANY attempt at "converting" people will only push them away from you and and further away from a more compassionate lifestyle. People should be surprised that they didn't know you are vegan after knowing you for at LEAST a few months and not bored or irritated that it's all that you ever talk about.