Is there any room for compromise?!
My daughter breaks out in tangents on her podium at least once a month (which doesn’t have anything to do with menstruation) and for two years, I only challenged the first couple of months. Is this just an adolescent whim or a true cause?
Don’t get me wrong, do what you do – just do we have to drop the gavel with opinion like a democrat vs. a republican at the dinner table ever night?
Answers: I personally eat meat, but on occasion will eat a salad or bowl of fruit and I don't convulse, complain or throw my hands up in hallelujah.
My daughter breaks out in tangents on her podium at least once a month (which doesn’t have anything to do with menstruation) and for two years, I only challenged the first couple of months. Is this just an adolescent whim or a true cause?
Don’t get me wrong, do what you do – just do we have to drop the gavel with opinion like a democrat vs. a republican at the dinner table ever night?
Sparky-I really don't have an answer to your question (except probably NO)....but I wanted to commend you for your very funny and creative writing style. Yahoo! Answers has never made me LOL like your question did. Keep it up! ;-)
I’m sure your daughter is still developing her identity as a vegetarian, and as she finds out new information that she finds compelling she wants to share it with those around her. It seems like she is probably motivated from an ethical standpoint, and learning about what happens to animals in the process of making them into food is upsetting and can make one very emotional. It’s as if everyone around you is going about business as usual and participating in egregious acts of violence and injustice without batting an eye. She may eventually learn that not everyone will feel the same as she does about this, even when presented with the truth. I find that leading by example and giving information only when other imply interest works best, pushing your views on someone else often only results in pushing them away.
First of all there is always room for compromise....it is what makes us able to live together (wink)....but, I cannot understand exactly what you are asking. I understand you like meat and salad, you have a daughter, who obviously menstruates....What is the issue? Is she choosing to be something you don't want? Please give more information....
The is no compromise as long as PETA has as its ultimate objective to ban eating meat.
There would be a lot more room for compromise if we were not inundated at every turn with advertisements for meat, and perhaps had more options for vegetarian fare in both restaurants, and prepackaged meals. However, besides the occasional fettuccine alfredo or salad, there are little choices for veggies-and there are certainly no fast food commercials promoting vegetarian fare-in fact, most often they are "MEAT LOVERS DELIGHT, OR MEATSA, MEATSA, or some other such promotion. I personally do not eat prepackaged foods, BUT I would like a choice or two if I decided to. Ever look in the frozen foods aisle? I challenge you to find 3 things that don't contain dead animals in some form or another. Perhaps if meat wasn't shoved in our faces so often, we wouldn't have to defend our choices. I could care less what anyone else eats, but I do resent having meat promoted to me from all angles, yet I am accused of being a hippy freak if I don't accept it. The "opinion" is already out there-in favor of the omnivores. You have many more choices, options, and acceptance of your choices. Can't that be enough? Let your little girl vent once in awhile. Oh, and just my opinion, but I find it rather crass for a father to make mention of his daughters moods and menstruation in the same sentence, although you DID suggest that was not the case-I still find it as "opinionated" to always equate womens opinions and menstrual cycles in the same thread-they most often have little to do with the other. Perhaps you might reflect on your own stereotypical attitude? I dont mean this to be unkind, but it does kind of speak volumes about your own ingrained opinions-shouldn't your daughter be entitled to hers, period not withstanding? Perhaps she should get the podium now and then, without judgements from the one who taught her all about tangents and opinions.
Can a meat eater and a non-meat eater get along or does everything have to be an ethical argument?
Many meaters and vegers get along. We may disagree on some things but it isn't the sum total of our relationship.
Perhaps your problems with your daughter are deeper seeded.
"My daughter breaks out in tangents on her podium"---what does her talking off the subject (tangent) have to do with it? Do you mean tantrums?
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I know you say you "respect and admire your opinion" to people in this forum.
Why don't you try the same with your own daughter ?
Your comments and description of her behaviour are very dismissive.
She is testing her strength and position in the hierachy of the family. All kids do this. If its wasn't vegetarianism, it would be makeup, her skirt hemline, or the boyfriends she chooses.
I think this is just to do with your daughter growing up.
If you want to blame the imbalance on her diet, it might be best to explain why you think this is the case. Most veggies are perfectly balanced.
I've never had an arguement with a meat-eater over our chosen diets or morals and I've been veggie for 28 years. I regularly sit at the same table as beef and dairy farmers.
"mutual respect" are the 2 words I'll offer in your direction at this point.
Its more to do with you and your daughter, not meat-eating vs vegetarianism
by the way, it takes 2 to argue.
she's discovering something new and exciting and wants to share it.... vegs constantly have to defend themselves to meat eaters... seriously, constantly. when you decide to do soemthing "against the norm" you put yourself out there and it comes at you from all angles. you should listen to her, maybe you guys could cook some veggie meals together? go food shopping together? try getting involved in it with her, you might decide to embrace it yourself, but even if you don't, i'm sure she'd appreciate being heard and respected.
my boyfriend was practically a carnivore when i met him. he's practically a veg now. i never asked him not to eat meat at all. i told him why i don't. he's researched it himself and decided that for health and ethical reasons he wants to reduce his consumption. sure, i love it, but he made the decision on his own. if he hadn't, he'd be a different person and that in itself would affect the relationship, but it can and does work out. my cousin eats meat and her boyfriend does not. his reasons aren't ethical so maybe it's not as big of an issue but they work out just fine.
I don't see a compromise when fanatics take over the discussions. And really, who makes such a big deal about it anyway ( i think the current buzz phrase is "because we are passionate about...") People eat, people drink. Most people eat meat,and a few don't. That's how relevant the topic really is. I see a post complaining and making such a big deal over food ads. How can you have a compromise with that kind of thinking? A business is required to lose money for political correctness? and i don't see how a few ads can be such a big deal since a meat serving fast food place is hardly ythe hang out of choice for vegetarians. Especially since those ads are not directed at you. Only a planet sized ego and arrogance would assume that such ads are directed at them and them alone in order to insult their sensibilities.
My friendships are hardly based on food anyway. I have a couple of vegan friends and quite a few vegetarians friends. They know they will be served vegetarian food when i invite them for dinner. I know I will be served vegetarian food ( i don't require them to serve me meat unless it's a restaurant) when i am invited for dinner. It's not really compromising.it's respect. That's why we are all still friends.
As for your daughter, that's your territory and I would not want to infringe on your rights and responsibilities as a parent to decide what is best for your child. Unfortunately, PETA may have already done so.
I think Beebs just answered the question....with a big meaty NO!
I can find a whole section in the frozen food aisle Beebs.....ever look in the veggie section? Not an animal product to be found. Then there is the produce aisle, the "granola" aisle and even here in backwoods Maine, the local grocery stores are stocking "vegan" foods. Of course, they don't sell because only about 1% of the population is vegetarian around here. But because of the whining.....the store stocks and then they LOSE money and have to waste the food by tossing it out when it doesn't sell. I guess no one really wants a Tofu Pup.
No,, there will never be peace,because the veggies want to tell the omnis that they can't eat meat. They want to preach what we can and can not eat. I don't see omnis telling veggies they HAVE to eat meat. Yet, I see the veggies telling us how evil we are to torture a living being for our tastebuds. That's proof enough there that the war will continue, When the veggies learn to just shut up and leave us meat eaters alone, there will be peace throughout the land.