Vegans, do you feel a moral responsibility to not use products?!
Answers: like Boca Burgers or Morningstar that are still connected to large producers whose main profits come from the meat industry?
No. Like most vegans it would inconvenience me to do that.
Yes, I do. I live in a cave and wear clothes made of tree bark and eat roots and leaves so I don't have any economic impact on companies that might make profit by exploiting animals. I make my posts on the internet via telepathy.
Morningstar is owned by Kellogg's (a vegetarian company) so there's no meat there and Boca is owned by Kraft who don't really sell meat either.
So what are you talking about?
As a general rule I strive to support the most ethical consumptive option. Sometimes I compromise based off of excessive cost, inconvenience, or just plain old lack of knowledge.
Sometimes you have to make hard choices. For example, I am an environmentalist. If I was being ultra pure I would not drive (own a hybrid), fly (committed to not more than once a year), heat my house above 60, etc. However as I have mentioned before the goal of a vegan is to live ethically while at the same time not renouncing what it is to live. There is a balance that can be achieved.
Maybe in the I'll chose to support other products than the ones you mentioned as setting the pattern is half the battle. At any rate I still think it helps even if there are other non vegan associations with a business.
A good example is I do not like to frequent restaurants that serve meat. There is only one in my town called Roots. I frequent it 70 to 80 percent of the time, yet I do compromise and eat else where from time to time for many a reason which I find appropriate if for no other reason than not to be completely anti-social with my friends and family.
I guess the question this begs is how much of a purest do you chose to be. And even if you chose to be a purest to a stricter degree its still going to take time and effort to educate yourself and change the patterns that have been ingrained by the past.
Good Question : )
Well, considering many veg-friendly companies are owned by veggie-hostile companies, what would you suggest? I prefer Amy's burgers to Boca, and I'm no big fan of the Morningstar products anyway. But I would hope that buying vegetarian products sends a message that there's demand for animal-friendly foods so they'll make more vegetarian and vegan items and fewer animal-based items.
This is just another bash-the-vegan trolling question that you've asked in one form or another many times under several aliases. Give it a rest, would ya?
Yes, I especially despise BOCA because their parent company (Kraft) is owned by Altria/Phillip Morris. Phillip Morris is a cigarette company that is responsible for more human illness and death than probably both world wars combined... besides, BOCA products taste terrible to me.
You actually made a really good point here and BOCA is something I've made statements about repeatedly in this forum. I wouldn't spend a dime on BOCA because my money will simply further line the pockets of the fat cats responsible for glamorizing smoking and making people think they were harmless (I watched someone I love die slowly, who still smoked through a hole in their neck in their last days, because they were hooked on cigarettes back in the day when cigarette companies lobbied heavily to make sure people thought smoking was harmless).
Morningstar Farms is the lesser of the two evils but I have my issues with Kellogg's.
No. Not that I use products from either of the companies you name; but vegans can't and don't live in a bubble of purity away from the real world.
Brill answer Shannon :)
Kyle w, Kraft isn't really vegetarian if it uses cheese on its products.