Vegan - is eating eggs okay IF...?!


Question: The reason i want to be vegan is because i know how much animals are tortured for their meat, milk, and eggs.
I wouldnt want to have eggs because i know what those chickens are put through.

But just a walk away from my house there is a lady and she has about 20 chickens and shes a family friend and once in a while my mom used to buy from her.

Could i still call myself a vegan if i still baked and ate eggs from an actual farm, where the animals arent tortured?


Answers: The reason i want to be vegan is because i know how much animals are tortured for their meat, milk, and eggs.
I wouldnt want to have eggs because i know what those chickens are put through.

But just a walk away from my house there is a lady and she has about 20 chickens and shes a family friend and once in a while my mom used to buy from her.

Could i still call myself a vegan if i still baked and ate eggs from an actual farm, where the animals arent tortured?

Eggs are not vegan, never will be, but why do you need a label?

At least they would be cruelty free eggs :-)

IF YOU EAT EGGS, please please make sure they are free range, not battery eggs!

EDIT: To Ava: Chicken meat is NOT vegetarian. LOL

No, you couldn't be 'vegan' and still eat eggs... just resolve to eat those products from farms and sources you trust and you won't be hurting anything

I think you would be fine still calling yourself a vegan, but I am sure many others will disagree because it is an animal by-product. I will be there one day, vegan but eating eggs from my own chickens.

then it should also be ok for you to drink milk from a cow milked by the farmer or eat meat from an animal killed in a humane way make up your mind you cant just be vegan when you choose it is a way of life me i eat everything that is the way it is meant to be

NO it's good that the chickens appear to be well treated. But if you eat eggs you can't correctly call yourself a vegan. Vegans don't eat any thing from any animals no matter how well treated they are.

Ava: vegetarians don't eat any meat at all. Chicken is meat not a plant, so your not vegetarian.

Eating eggs, regardless of where they came from, is NOT vegan. Veganism means NO animal products whatsoever. It's not defined by where the animals were raised.

However, eggs from "the lady up the street" are without a doubt MUCH better than eggs that have been raised on a factory farm. Gotta watch out though, she herself may be treating the animals badly or feeding them weird steroids and whatnot. You know how those old egg farmer ladies are...

Kidding, of course.

But if you're going to want to eat eggs, no one can stop you. Just don't bother yourself with a vegan label and do what you think is right. The end goal should not be a label of vegan or not vegan, it should be a lifestyle and mindset that thinks and cares about what they eat and what they vote for with their dollar.

Vegan means vegetarian
egg is an animal product.If you take egg you are known as ovovegetarian.If you take milk ( animal product) you will be known as lactovegetarian.
If you take egg and milk you will be known as ovo-lacto-vegetarian

There is no definition of veganism that includes eating eggs. It's an animal product.

There is no definition of vegetarian that includes eating chicken. Chicken is flesh.

That said -- eat what you want. Stop trying to define yourself as something you are not.

No because a vegan doesn't eat eggs, but I'm a vegan and if there was a way to eat eggs (as in the male chicks weren't killed and the female ones were allowed to run around outside and live to an old age etc etc...) then I might do.

As it is I haven't found any acceptable treatment of the animals to allow it (even free range eggs are abusive (imo) because as the eggs hatch they are sorted into male and female and the female baby chicks are kept to lay the eggs and the male baby chicks are thrown into a plastic bag where they suffocate as the weight builds up and are then thrown in the trash.

That was actually the final straw that made me go vegan myself.

I guess it's your call, but you couldn't call yourself a vegan if you ate eggs though, even if they're free range.

Eggs aren't vegan, no matter how happy the chickens are. If you eat non-vegan food, you're not vegan.

Sorry.

You cannot be a vegan and eat eggs. You can however, be an ovo-vegetarian. if you decide to be an ovo-egetarian eat the organic free range eggs.

As others have pointed out, vegan means NO animal products whatsoever, no matter how well the animals are treated. And vegetarian means no animal flesh, and this includes chickens!

So, no, you cannot eat the eggs from your neighbor and call yourself vegan. There are still ethical issus with that, although fewer than with conventionially raised eggs. Do you know what your neighbor lady does when the hens no longer lay eggs? If the hens breed, what happens to the male layers? Are these hens pets, and she just happens to sell their eggs, or does she have aside business selling their eggs?

You can see why there's no way eggs can be considered vegan, don't you?

Vegans don't eat eggs. Period. I don't personally have the same ethical issue with people who keep well-treated hens as pets and then make use of their eggs, but you wouldn't be able to call yourself a vegan if you ate them. You just have to ask yourself what your comfort level is; if you believe these hens are well-treated and you want the eggs, you can call yourself a ovo-vegetarian, or you can keep being vegan and not eat the eggs. The concerns about this lady's eggs would be: where did she get the hens? did she support a battery farm by buying hens from them, or are they rescues? what does she plan to do with her hens when they stop laying? will she keep them as companion animals, or sell them to a renderer?

I agree with several poster here that you could not label yourself a vegan.

Can I ask your question to you in a different way? Would it be OK to own slaves if the slaves were treated nice? Most people with a heart and a ounce of compassion would abhor the idea of owning slaves but isn't this what we are doing to the animal on this earth? Owning and using their energies and parts for our own use. Veganism in the full sense of the word is ethical compassion. Seeing chickens running free around a yard is great but is the chicken really free? How is what I want and my desires enslaving another species?

When one asks these questions, it is easy to see why vegans don't use honey or sugar from companies that filter through bone meal. It's all about doing unto other as we would have it done unto us.

Just as we have progressed passed the owning of slaves, hopefully in the future we will progress passed the "need" to have a taste of their flesh or a soft shoe to wear when alternative things exist.

If the egg is fertile, we must have every argument against eating it that we had against eating its mother. If, on the other hand, we have an infertile egg, biologically speaking, the voiding of the unfertilized egg is the hen's counterpart of the menstrual flow from the reproductive organs of the human female (since the hen is oviparous and not vivparous, it accomplishes this in a neat tidy package).

Nope, but you'd be a mighty nice vegetarian.

no. vegans don't eat any animals or animal by-products. that's the whole purpose of veganism.

Vegan people do not eat animal products.

It doesn't matter if the chickens fly in through your window and sing you a song about how happy they are to make eggs for you like they're in a Disney movie.

Eggs are not vegan.

Even strict vegetarians don't eat eggs.

short answer: yes

long answer: yes, because of the reasons you chose to become vegan.

Those places where animals are tortured are wrong but there are many few and far between. Most take good care of their animals.

Vegan means NO products coming from animal, but if you like to eat cheese, milk and eggs that much, and it becomes that much of a problem, then i wouldnt recommend you becoming fully vegan. I am vegetarian but eat chicken. So it is Okay. :)





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