What's up with vegetarians?!
I know they don't eat meat.
No, I'm not referring to the "religious" people.
I'm referring to others who just don't eat meat.
I've asked a couple vegetarians WHY they don't eat meat.
They said it's cruel eating an animal.
Yet, most wear the SKIN or MATERIAL from the dead animal.
Which is probably worse, since eating is done over quickly, but wearing it's dead remains isn't - you pretty much wear it forever until it gets old/boring/or too small/big.
So, what's up with vegetarians?
Is it because they are trying to attract attention?
Make themselves feel special?
Make themselves feel good?
Anyone care to clarify my thought, or question?
Answers: Okay.
I know they don't eat meat.
No, I'm not referring to the "religious" people.
I'm referring to others who just don't eat meat.
I've asked a couple vegetarians WHY they don't eat meat.
They said it's cruel eating an animal.
Yet, most wear the SKIN or MATERIAL from the dead animal.
Which is probably worse, since eating is done over quickly, but wearing it's dead remains isn't - you pretty much wear it forever until it gets old/boring/or too small/big.
So, what's up with vegetarians?
Is it because they are trying to attract attention?
Make themselves feel special?
Make themselves feel good?
Anyone care to clarify my thought, or question?
Is it because they are trying to attract attention? - NO
Make themselves feel special? - NO
Make themselves feel good? – YES because I know I’m doing my part for the environment, for animal rights, and for my health.
So, what's up with vegetarians? Well here are just a few reasons to become veg.
1. Cruelty to Animals
C'mon we all know what goes on in factory farms. Animals on today's factory farms have no legal protection from cruelty. They are subjected to neglect, mutilation, genetic manipulation, and drug regimens that cause chronic pain and crippling, transport through all weather extremes, and gruesome and violent slaughter.
2. Your Health
Meat is full of pesticides, herbicides, antibiotics, growth hormones, fat and cholesterol.
3. World Hunger
Because the tonnes of grain used to feed animals could be used to solve world hunger.
4. Worker Rights
Abottoir workers, and other meat industries are the most exploited and lowest paid workers in the world.
5. Government Negligence
The government subsidises meat and dairy production. If the true cost of meat was passed onto the consumer, a hamburger would cost $35.
6. The environment
Because a large scale omnivorous diet is ecologically unsustainable, it is impossible to sustain globally. Producing meat places massive stresses on the earth's resources and the environment. Eating meat contributes to carbon emissions, Beef generates about 24 times more CO2 than an equivalent vegie and rice dinner. Thousands of hectares of rain forest are cleared every year to house or graze animals. Even more land is cleared to grow grains to feed these animals (grains which could be used to feed starving people). This is in addition to the massive amounts of waste they produce, which goes largely untreated into the environment.
Regarding the leather/fur issue, I don't see much difference between wearing "the SKIN or MATERIAL from the dead animal" and carrying around it's dead rotting carcass within you is any different. Both can be viewed in a similar manner, one is *on* you, where as the other is *in* you. Not a great deal of difference.
There is heaps of research out there and tones of statistics. Here is an interesting article well worth the read.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/weekin...
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2008/0...
http://www.goveg.com/theissues.asp
ive asked myself the same question many times and im afraid im still clueless sorry mate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV9emyv_B...
thats why i did..
If they are vegetarians and they refuse to eat meat because they claim that it is cruel to eat an animal, USUALLY they wouldn't wear the skin or material from a dead animal. Personally, I would find them to be of the hypocrite category. I believe you just had a bad example of a vegetarian. Not all vegetarians where the dead skins or materials of an animal. I certainly don't. I just refuse to eat meat because it is so inefficiently made in the United States, and it takes so much of the earth's resources to make one kilogram of beef.
I was raised vegetarian. i never had meat until i was 12. when i first tried it, it seemed different to me, and i wasn't used to it. i'm still vegetarian because i don't like meat, and i'm just used to my no meat lifestyle. i think its pretty sad that you think all vegetarians do that and wear dead skins from animals, because not all of them do. and just because you had a bad experience with a vegetarian, doesn't mean you should assume that of everyone.
I personally don't eat meat, dairy or eggs and I don't wear anything that comes from animals. That's just my choice.
The reason I don't eat meat stems from the fact that 80% of the world's plants are grown and harvested solely to support animal agriculture (and 30% of the WORLD'S natural resources are swallowed up the United States alone -which only has 5% of the population), all so that we could have the convenience of meat available 24/7. Animal agriculture is unsustainable - most of the world goes hungry, and yet we choose to squander so much land, so many plants and so much water to raise animals for slaughter.
When you average out how many plants and how much water an animal consumes before it's ready for slaughter, it totals up to 16 pounds of plants (usually corn, soy and grain) and 2,500 gallons of water for a SINGLE pound of meat. That's horrifying to me, knowing that if people ate lower on the food chain we'd save so much water and so many plants.
Also, the leading contributor to global warming is animal agriculture, with 18% of global warming contribution, followed by 15% for all the world's cars combined and 9% for all the power and energy used by all the world's homes and offices. Staggering, isn't it? All for the Western world's convenience of being able to drive down any street in town and have eight drive throughs open at night serving hamburgers... it's ridiculous. Our desire for convenience and the lack of nutritional knowledge (people think that meat is the only source of protein!) squanders so many resources, so much energy, from the rest of the world. America is unrivaled in it's meat consumption... there are countries like India, China or Vietnam where the amount of meat available here would be considered an absurdity, a luxury of luxuries.
depends on the vegetarian really.
i think that the ones who wear animal skins/furs only problem is eating the flesh of another creature.
personally, when i'm a vegan and my prob is the animal cruelty in addition to that.
I'm a vegetarian, and I don't support using animal products. My "leather" couch is actually vinyl. My "leather" jacket, is also vinyl. You can't tell the difference. But I made a difference by saving a couple cows. And that's all I need to know to make me happy.
I'm a very strict vegetarian, so leather is out of the question. So is fur.
I'm not trying to attract attention to my lifestyle, ever, because people are usually ignorant about it and bash me.
I do feel both special and good, however, because I know what I'm doing is right; not only for the animal but for health.
I don't eat meat for many reasons, but whenever someone asks me why, I usually say that it's animal cruelty because the other reasons would bash THEM for what they eat, and I'm above doing that.
HA! Your funny!
"Yet, most wear the SKIN or MATERIAL from the dead animal."
No, That is untrue. I think using material from an animal is just as sick as eating an animal, therefore I do not use it.
I chose to be a vegetarian for all the good reasons,
one. I dont NEED meat. If you eat meat you are being selfish. Why kill something because it tastes good, but you dont need it to survive?
two. The diet is way healthier. You as a meat eater have a way bigger risk or heart diseases and obesity along with other terrible conditions.
Don't stereotype the Vegetarians now.
I Do not try to attract attention.
I don't think I'm special because of it.
But I DO feel good about it!
There are A LOT of products out there that are Man Made Materials that look like leather, I have a micro fiber couch that looks like suede and also some vegetarians and maybe some vegans will still wear the leather they had bought previously to becoming veg.
Do you seriously think that wearing old leather you have had is worse than killing animals? The animal is already dead and cannot feel anything anymore. Jeesh.
You sound kinda jealous, and you might want to change you name to No Common Sense. People get rude in here because there is constantly people like you coming and asking questions challenging our beliefs.
Well, you're getting some rude answers because your name "Common Sense" is the same as a couple of trolls who have been on the board lately and post ridiculous questions. I know you're not one of them, but people assume you are. I just wanted to clear that up.
I agree with you, but I should point out that most 'ethical vegetarians' do not wear leather or fur. Those who do are of course hypocrites. Those who are vegetarian just for health reasons can do whatever they want, of course.
On the other hand, I know of people who don't wear fur but they have no problem sitting down to a steak dinner, having breast implants, using medicines, cosmetics and hair products. All of these things at some point have been developed from animal suffering or testing. Even companies which claim to be animal safe are using chemicals developed by other companies which did animal testing.
The bottom line is that we can't judge others. If I use medicines and hair products, which I do, then I can't judge people who wear animal skins.
You are making a generalisation here on the basis of only a small number of vegetarians. Your assertion that *most* will wear animal products is false. True there may be some who are hypocritical and will use animal products, but these individuals are not representative. There are also vegetarians who choose such a diet because they dislike the taste or meat or for health reasons; you may find that these vegetarians will happily wear fur or leather.
I am a vegan and prior to that I've been vegetarian for 20 years and during that time I have refused to wear leather or fur as I consider these in the same light as eating animal products. I know many vegetarians/vegans who feel the same way.
I've been a vegetarian for 10 years, but I wear leather shoes and my car has leather seats. The way I rationalize this is to remind myself that the animals were not harvested for their leather, but for their meat. There are no factory farms raising cows for their hide. The leather is an industrial byproduct. I'm sure plenty of people find my logic flawed, but this is what works for me.
How do you know "most wear the SKIN or MATERIAL from the dead animal."
Maybe they bought thier shoes here:
http://www.vegetarian-shoes.co.uk/
Or did you ask them all ?
"Fruitis" answer is funny when they say ....." ive asked myself the same question many times and im afraid im still clueless sorry mate".
I think they are tying to say they agree with your stereotyping but what they are actually saying is they have no knowledge at all. Perhaps they should ask someone who HAS got a clue rather than relying on thier cluelessness for education
I'm up to loose ￡10K ( 20K USD ) because i had non-leather seats and interior custom made from my car. So, you certainly forgot to ask ME if i wear an animals SKIN, didn't you ?
Because everyone is a individual. Not all vegans wear animal skins. Maybe some that you know do wear animal skins. Then again, maybe what you see just looks like animal skins.
My aunt was accosted by two young women in a grocery store because she was carrying a purse which looked like crocodile skin to them. My aunt is not vegetarian, but her purse was not crocodile skin. It was a very fine replica made of non-animal products. They went on to ridicule her about her purse, even after she told them it was fake. They went on their way and continued to shop in a store that makes a good deal of its money off selling meat and animal products. Apparently, they had no problem with that fact.
What I am trying to point out is that both sides of the fence can misjudge others. It's way too easy to make assumptions about other persons. This Yahoo forum, like all other Yahoo forum, is going to have a few self-righteous persons who are rude, judgmental and condescending.
"So, what's up with vegetarians?
Is it because they are trying to attract attention?
Make themselves feel special?
Make themselves feel good?"
Um... you think someone who names themselves "common sense" would actually have some.... wow you really do seem uneducated....