Heyy ..vegetarian animal rights question ;]?!


Question: ok i just asked a question a few minutes ago, also in this section, and now i want to kknow....


do you think that vegetarianism is the BEST way to stop cruelties and injustices that animals at slaughterhouses face?

or is there another way?

if anything i will become vegetarian, but like do you think there is a better way to stop the way animals are treated? like i asked before, are there any organizations or anything.... because so far i have heard that there is nothing in any government that helps like animal rights or anything...

do you think that just because we demand meat, we should treat animals this way? i don't think so.

i mean hey i like drinking water. does that mean that if the demand is great enough, it is just for the government to allow water supplying companies to kill a person for every ton of water they supply?


Answers: ok i just asked a question a few minutes ago, also in this section, and now i want to kknow....


do you think that vegetarianism is the BEST way to stop cruelties and injustices that animals at slaughterhouses face?

or is there another way?

if anything i will become vegetarian, but like do you think there is a better way to stop the way animals are treated? like i asked before, are there any organizations or anything.... because so far i have heard that there is nothing in any government that helps like animal rights or anything...

do you think that just because we demand meat, we should treat animals this way? i don't think so.

i mean hey i like drinking water. does that mean that if the demand is great enough, it is just for the government to allow water supplying companies to kill a person for every ton of water they supply?

I do believe that vegetarianism is the best way to prevent cruelty to animals. Labels like "free range" and "organic" sound nice, but life is not much better for the animals (if at all). These animals are often mutilated without painkillers and sent to the same slaughterhouses that kill animals from factory farms. "Organic” just means drug- and chemical-free. It has nothing to do with the humane treatment of animals, and organic animals are often forced to endure the cruelties that are inflicted on factory-farmed animals.

More info:
http://www.goveg.com/organic.asp
http://www.cok.net/lit/freerange.php

here is wht i think i think tht if u r worried about the animals sake and not want to eat meat being vegitarian is not going to do a thing u will to be a vegan to feel better tht is wht i am i have been tht for a while now when u are vegitarian u still eat dariy tht is like supporting the bad things they do to animals i hope this helped

Are you against people eating meat all together or just killing animals with cruelty?

Yea i think it is wrong that chickens are born in a cage, live in a cage and die in a cage without having seen the light of day. but people are naturally meat eaters and thats why meat is delicious.

no just because people want meat doesnt mean they should be treated that way,like everyone is telling you when you stop eating it you save their lives,also alot of the animals die on the way to the slaughterhouse,they are beaten,starved etc.Because of people going undercover some mistreatment will stop but the killing wont
' There will be no justice as long as man will stand with a knife or with a gun and destroy those who are weaker than he is"-Isaac Bashevis Singer

I think the demand has little to do with it. I mean the more ppl demand meat than the more animals they have to raise and breed. But the ppl that "take care" of these animals are going to treat them the same no matter how much demand for them is. Except for maybe in EXTREME LOW demand, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. Plus I don't think anyone should be thinking about becoming veggie JUST b/c of animal cruelty. You can still get your meat from local farms that YOU KNOW the animals are being treated fairly. But goin veggie is a choice of health, not animal's rights. But I don't know if there are any other organizations for animal rights. I know there is animal rescue, so if there is a farm that is miss treating the animals then you report them and they come take a look. But most "meat" companies stay within regulation, but the animals are still misstreated, so that means we got to find something to do. Plus with they way those animals are being treated, they could catch disease and possibly end up in our stomachs.

So where is your definition of cruelty coming from? It's cruel to keep them in cages, but not to kill them? It's cruel to kill them by stabbing them in the throat and letting them bleed to death, but not cruel to shoot them in the head first with a captive bolt gun?

If you think it is not cruel to stun the animal and then kill it, how many times do you think the animal is not stunned properly before it is killed? Do you think slaughterhouse workers are 100% accurate under the conditions they work in? Do you realise that there is no such thing as an organic or free range slaughterhouse, so the animals will suffer at some stage?

Are you aware that some methods use machinery instead of humans, so there is no way to prevent problems? In poultry slaughterhouses, chickens etc are hung by the legs on a large conveyor and have their throats cut then are dumped in scalding water (which aids the removal of feathers). As they may be flapping their wings or struggling, the blade can miss and just gouge the flesh, so they are drowned in scalding hot water instead of bleeding to death beforehand. And chickens are not stunned.

If you are have a problem with any of these details, then cutting out meat is the only way to stop supporting these cruelties. There is no alternative in so called "happy meat", as it is the slaughter which is part of the problem.

Well, if you believe strongly that animal exploitation, suffering, and murder are wrong, and you want to LIVE according to those ethics, then veganism is the logical choice.

In my opinion, no, you can't effectively speak out for animal rights in-between bites of chicken.

No, the *easiest* way is to not support it by adding to the demand. Going vegetarian is the least you could do. If that's too hard for you, be pickier in where you source your animal products from. http://www.eatwellguide.org is a good source of info. Type in your zip code and find local pasture-raised animals. Then although you're still contributing to animals as commodities, you still aren't supporting factory farms.

p.s. You can't support animal rights and be anything less than vegan. And that said, not all vegans are for animal rights. Many are merely welfarists.

You coudl try looking at the campaigns by CIWM.

Compassion in World Farming are not outwardly
"vegetarian" ( although i nkow many are so ) and they try to improve the lot of comemrcial animals rather than boycote or shut the industry down.

http://www.ciwf.org

If you eat meat, you fuel the industry and are directly responsible for animal cruelty . No amount of words will change that, only actions will change it, and therefore vegetarianism or veganism are the logical choice.

I don't beleive anyone can claim to be against animal cruelty and still eat meat. Pre-natural death is cruel, there is no getting over that fact.





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