What About the Veg*n Hypocrites?!
Answers: I meam the more obvious ones like Moby, Pam Anderson, and Mary Tyler Moore?
What, you mean like all the high ups at PETA? They kill animals, fund terroristic groups such as ALF, and are just big crazy, power hungry, hypocrites who care more about political agendas than they actually do about helping animals or people.
Or how a lot of vegans protest that vegan/organic food is the only way to go, and yet if all food production was turned to organic vegan, only 50% of the current world population could be fed. Sure, they look starved and emaciated, but I don't see most vegans volunteering to be that 50% of the population that starves to death.
Or just the fact that it is completely impossible for anyone claiming to be vegan, to live a 100% vegan life style. Frankly, all your damn vegetables are fertilized with animal manure. Sure, this is a harmless-to-animal biproduct (just like eggs, honey, and wool), but to get enough manure to fertilize all your vegan organic gardens, you have to raise a lot of animals (chickens, cows, turkeys, etc), and those animals are being raised to be slaughtered and eaten. The higher demand for fertilizer on all your veges, the more stored up animals are needed.
Not to mention, the numbers of murdered and mutilated birds, rodents, and fluffy bunnies that result from running a combine across a field for harvest.
So yeah, show me a vegan that isn't a hypocrite.
what is your point?
I agree some of the spokespeople for Peta like Pam Anderson can be annoying. Most of us Vegans know we can not be perfect. (Car tires have milk products in them.) We just try to do what will make the most difference to the animals. Removing them from our diet and clothing selections does make a huge difference. If we tried to be perfect we would go insane.
What are you babbling on about?
This is another ''Anti-vegetarian'' hate speech.
Go somewhere else to hate on us vegetarians/vegans.
Veganism is different for everyone. I have been vegan for about a year; making sure not to put a demand on the market for most animal products on account of the environmental impact they have. I don't eat first, as an example, because the number of fish in the world is diminishing every year, and 1/5th of the world gets their only supply of protein from fish. It would be hypocritical of me to not promote vaccinations that could save people, and promote my flavor of veganism. I do what I do first for people.
Unless you know the intimate reasons behind everyones actions, try and not flip out on them.
Hmmm I wonder which one I should take....rabies or a shot that was tested on animals in the past?
Obviously vegans would choose to remain healthy, that doesn't make Moby non-vegan for accepting an injection. The vegan lifestyle doesn't claim to be perfect, although most of the time we are. :0)
I reported you for ranting!
Im by no means a vegan I dont even really care for vegies at all but IF I were and got attacked by a cat....Im pretty sure I would get the tetanus shot. Life is full of compromises.
Who cares? Most vegans, like me, are not fanatics. If refraining from taking a medication might be severely injurious to our health, then most will take the medicine. It is unbelievable the amount of cosmetic products, cleaners and foods that tests on animals (for no justifiable reason). If a person is vigilant about avoiding these products, and only caves under one unusual circumstance, they deserve respect for their efforts.
Okay, we get it dude, you were once vegan. You were either not dedicated or did not cared so you gave up.
But seriously enough with this "post guilt - bash vegans now" attitude. So you failed at it, so now get over it!
Ps.No vegans are not hypocrites, they are just people trying to do their best.
Unfortunately, a number of things in our society came about through the exploitation of others. Many of the roads that we drive on were built by slaves. We can’t change the past; those who have already suffered and died are gone. What we can do is change the future by supporting non-animal testing methods and other humane practices.
Also, veganism isn't about a quest for personal purity, which is an unattainable goal. It is about doing what we can (within reason) to help reduce animal suffering. Buying non-animal tested cosmetics, cleaning products, etc. is within reason for most vegans. Endangering one's health to avoid a product that was tested on animals in the past is not reasonable for most.
Unless you want to be a hermit or commit suicide, you will be contributing to suffering and environmental destruction just by living your life. No one's perfect, but that shouldn't prevent us from doing what we can to make the world a kinder place.
What is the question you need answered?
Many medicines are tested on animals because this is a very anti-vegetarian society, and we have to do the best we can to hold up our values and survive. Being vegan isn't about being perfect and avoiding every single instance of animal cruelty. It's about avoiding as much of it as we can. Besides, if he had refused treatment in the hospital and got an infection and died, he wouldn't be able to continue spreading his message today.
Veg*ns and medicine again eh?
Let's be clear - vegans can't and don't pretend to live in a bubble of perfection; we do all we can to minimise our contribution to the suffering and exploitation of animals. Most people, vegan or not, do the best they can according to their lights
Being a vegan is not the same as being a martyr; sacrificing your own life is not required.
In another post today you call Pamela Anderson a hypocrite for taking life-saving medicine, medicine that has - by a law she has no control over - been tested on animals at some point in the past, medicine without which she is likely to die and leave her children motherless. I have no liking for the woman, but she doesn't deserve that slur. It's a cruel, opportunistic attempt to score points over vegans, whom you clearly despise as a group.
Like Anderson, I owe my life to medicines and procedures that have, by law, been tested on animals. I don't consider that doing all I could to escape a hideously painful, prolonged and (hopefully) avoidable death from cancer makes me less of a vegan. I would do the same tomorrow in the event of recurrence or metastasis and would urge anyone, vegan or not, to do the same.
You call that hypocrisy; you are wrong. Hypocrisy means - and take note Axelpeddle - claiming to have higher standards than you in fact have. So, if I said 'I would NEVER accept medicines that had been animal tested' and then snuck off and took a load of animal-tested medicines - THAT would be hypocrisy. If Anderson denied taking animal- tested drugs while taking them, that would be hypocrisy. But she doesn't. Niether of us is a hypocrite.
You have said before that accepting animal tested medicine in the event of serious illness is simply taking veganism only so far as is convenient. I consider this a crass argument. Human life is not a convenience. I'm a vegan, to minimise as far as I can my personal contribution to animal suffering. But I value human life way, way over animal life.
I'm a vegan according to the definition of the word as defined by the person who coined it. Your 'question' is just another of your rather contrived attacks on vegans.
If you are really saying that vegans should allow themselves to die rather than accept life-saving medicine, please consider that the majority of people using these boards are very young and impressionable - you should be more careful.