Do you believe one day animal husbandry will be seen as slavery is viewed today?!


Question: At one point in history, though not everyone liked it, slavery was on whole a common and accepted practice.

Now that it is illegal, & though it still happens in various forms to a limited degree, it is widely accepted as an unenlightened social ill.

It may be hard to conceive that things will change on a massive enough scale to trip a cultural transformation but in countries like India where 45% of the population does not eat meat and only 30% eat it regularly this phenomenon did not happen over night but over millennium of spiritual cultivation and social encouragement.

Now that we are in the information age ethical philosophies and spiritual world views can be more easily shared and mulled over. A sincere seeker of truth will take the best from all the world views.

I know my transformation to a vegan lifestyle was a long and at times a resistant one. If one individual representing the micro can change why can't the majority of the world representing the macro change?


Answers: At one point in history, though not everyone liked it, slavery was on whole a common and accepted practice.

Now that it is illegal, & though it still happens in various forms to a limited degree, it is widely accepted as an unenlightened social ill.

It may be hard to conceive that things will change on a massive enough scale to trip a cultural transformation but in countries like India where 45% of the population does not eat meat and only 30% eat it regularly this phenomenon did not happen over night but over millennium of spiritual cultivation and social encouragement.

Now that we are in the information age ethical philosophies and spiritual world views can be more easily shared and mulled over. A sincere seeker of truth will take the best from all the world views.

I know my transformation to a vegan lifestyle was a long and at times a resistant one. If one individual representing the micro can change why can't the majority of the world representing the macro change?

I think it is possible for the human race to reach that moral stand a century or two from now. But as of now we are too elitist and specie-st as a whole. In order to view human slavery and non-human animal slavery the same you have to view the lives of other species with equal importance to your own.
That's called "Eco-feminism". As you can see from some of the other answers most are unable to conceive of that concept. Eric Markus made the correlation that you're making in "Meat Market" and I thought it made a lot of sense.
He pointed out that one reason blacks were able to be emancipated was due to the fact that the abolitionists didn't argue that blacks were equal to whites. They only argued that it was inhumane to enslave. Civil rights and black suffrage came later. I think it is the same with animal rights.
First you have to get everyone on board with the idea that is sense-less to breed and kill. Then we can look back on it and see how barbaric and morally unconscious we've been as a human race. More than likely though, our vegetarian descendants will have to make that happen.

Also, slavery was an issue of economic unfairness to the North. The Federal Gov. was becoming concerned about the growing Plutocracy of Southern Planter culture. So you see it was not all about humanitarianism. Mother Nature will probably give our human race a kick in the boot and compel us to all go Vegetarian for selfish reasons like avoiding HN51,
and Bovine diseases. For some reason it takes more than morallity to motivate a huge population to do the right thing.

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  • No. I don't and I think it's insulting to human slavery to make that comparison.

    Short and sweet this time...LOL :-)

    I believe that will happen only if the crazies take over the world.

    Never gonna happen.

    Only if the animals in question evolved and develop sentience

    No. I believe there will always be meat eaters and to try to change that fact will be like Don Quixote chasing windmills. Be content in your vegan lifestyle and appreciate that others will not share your viewpoint.

    Anything is possible. But I think it would be unlikely, in part because animals cannot speak up for themselves.

    I don't know the source on this, because I heard it long ago. But I once heard of a chimpanzee who had been used in a learning study and knew sign language--but when that study was over, he was sent elsewhere and used for some other kind of animal testing. He emphatically signed for it to stop, and to be let out of the cage. The staff couldn't help but notice he knew sign language, and what he was signing, and, as I was told the story, they eventually took that chimp out of the test. And yet the test continued with the other chimpanzees, even though logic would dictate it's just as bad for them.

    Not knowing the source I can't be sure that really happened, but it sounds like it could happen. The more someone can speak up for themselves, the harder it becomes to ignore them.

    no. and i think your comparison is demeaning and beyond rediculous.

    this is as bad as when peta wrote an article on how blind people enslave dogs

    I seriously doubt it.

    I hope so. It’s a long way off if it’s ever going to happen though.

    Anyone who is indignant or insulted by the thought of it probably feels that way because s/he’s a speciesist and believes humans are better than and worth more than any other species on the planet. I find that attitude arrogant, bigoted and shortsighted. I believe all species are different from each other, each endowed with their own strengths and vulnerabilities, but I do not think one species is better than or worth more than all others put together. Seeing human animals and non-human animals as equally able to suffer and equally benefiting from freedom from suffering, I think the comparison between human slavery and non-human slavery is apt.

    No, I am sorry I don't and I agree with "Me", it is a horrible analogy you are making to compare anmal husbrandry to human slavery. Especially, since human slavery still occurs in parts of the world.

    If it happened we wouldn't be witnesses because it would be really far away in the future .... but anyway ... who knows!!! Why not?

    No, I think there is no comparison with human slavery, and I actually find such a comparison rather offensive.

    is happening because many people is thinking like you....right now....

    Social change happens only by the change of a person's heart -- one person at a time..
    I stood on the Riverwalk with 400 of my neighbors five years and more than 4000 American lives lost ago with a candle in my hand and a prayer in my heart as I watched this great nation turn from the moral high road midst political lies and
    saw manipulation and greed prevail. I have watched our sad decline into the status of Rogue Nation, the denial of sacred treaties and the horrors of Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo and water boarding. My heart hasn't changed. Neither has my prayer. I pray for the bright light of consciousness, love and compassion to be ignited in every beast. I pray for the understanding of One World to be realized. I pray for every creature to live in peace, in plenty and in harmony with every other all over this globe. And I know that it will only happen one aching heart at a time. I know that no one walks a spiritual path without significant pain in their lives. That it takes an un-anesthetized awareness of that initial wounding and separation from our source that is the foundation of all of our pain; and it takes a humble acknowledgment of our very real commonality to come to a place of genuine peace. We cannot achieve that peace for ourselves by ingesting the fear of the animals as they are slaughtered. We cannot even begin to seek that peace while we cheerfully bandy rhetoric about and drop bombs that slaughter millions of children.
    My dear brother, members of my family have always been in the forefront of radical spiritual consciousness. We signed the Declaration of Independence, were abolitionists and part of the Underground Railroad, were suffragettes,.and part of the Civil Rights and Peace Movements. Yet, I have no illusions about your dream -- though I share it.. Until we all, as an entire species, have the experience of seeing the Light of God within ourselves, we cannot really see it in others. But once we have had such experience there is no not seeing it in everyone else. . . human and animal..That is the foundation of World Peace and Inner Peace, and a genuine transformation into a compassionate world where every life is held sacred -- animal as well as human. Given that God into expression manifests as Light and Sound -- where is it that God is not? I pray for that day. I work for it with every fiber of my being.

    I dont think so, we humans evolved to such a point were we experience dominion over the animals, if they didnt want to be eaten they would of evolved and become more powerfull and less able to kill, instead they submitted to man and became what they are today becuase of us.

    And I think that the population of earth needs to learn respect for there fellow man before they will stop eating meat. There are far more worse crimes than meat eating in the world. Only when the human race becomes a peacfull race then we may stop eating meat.

    Untill then ill have the porterhouse steak welldone with diane sauce.





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