Do you believe someone can be a fiscal vegan but not always a dietary one?!
I have been in many situations where non-vegan food was going to go to waste (i!.e!. hots meals on a plane) if I did not eat it!. Most of the time I give such things to my dog or pawn it off on other vegetarian or omnivores!.
But such situations arising got me to think, maybe it might be OK to be a fiscal vegan but to accept free & or food that would normally be wasted!.
The whole point of veganism is to alleviate suffering!. Mainly this is done via the market though I do recognize the witnessing aspect as well!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
But such situations arising got me to think, maybe it might be OK to be a fiscal vegan but to accept free & or food that would normally be wasted!.
The whole point of veganism is to alleviate suffering!. Mainly this is done via the market though I do recognize the witnessing aspect as well!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
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That makes sense to me too, but I would wait until I was sure nobody else wanted the food or items before taking them and if I knew they would definetly go into the trash if I didn't take them!. About once a year my bf and I go to this chicken wing place, if he has a wing or two left I will eat them!. Although personally I couldn't eat cows or pigs ever again in my life and I do find it hard sometimes to carry/wear the few leather items I do have from before I knew how the animals were treated to get those items!. It just feels weird to me!. But you do have a good idea and if it works for you, do it!. Maybe not tell others because some may judge you and it may confuse those that don't fully understand what a vegan is!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Im not sure the whole point of veganism is to alleviate suffering!. That might be the truth for some individuals!. Other vegans are concerned about the environment as a whole, or concerned about the way animal based foods are processed generally!. I think dietary beliefs, just like religion, are such a personal and complex set of values and decision making that it is wholely and entirely up to the individual!. Personally that wouldnt fit for me as a vegan, but it might fit for you!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
It makes sense, though you'd have to be careful that there are no vested interests in your consumption of the food/product!.
I don't see a difference between giving something to your dog and eating it youself!. You're still "using" the food!.
Maybe the inconvenience of having to dispose of uneaten food on planes might encourage the airline to cater for vegans!.!.!.!.!?
I'm not vegan, but "fiscal veganism" makes sense to me!. It would require a bit more thinking, initiative and insight than regular veganism!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
I don't see a difference between giving something to your dog and eating it youself!. You're still "using" the food!.
Maybe the inconvenience of having to dispose of uneaten food on planes might encourage the airline to cater for vegans!.!.!.!.!?
I'm not vegan, but "fiscal veganism" makes sense to me!. It would require a bit more thinking, initiative and insight than regular veganism!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
That wouldn't work for me, but if you can buy into it, so to speak, go for it!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
ah you mean the wannabe!.
sorry, some of us just can't digest animal product of any type!.
some have that luxury, some don't!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
sorry, some of us just can't digest animal product of any type!.
some have that luxury, some don't!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
it makes sense to me!. if i were vegan, i would probably rather use an animal product than let it go to waste!. but its up to youWww@FoodAQ@Com
what does fiscal veagan mean!? does it mean you're cheap enough to eat out of the garbage at wholefoods!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
whats the point of being vegan then!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
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Well actually no, I do not think so at all at least I wouldn't eat anything that isn't vegetarian!. Either we are committed to our principles or we aren't!. The issue isn't fiscal responsibility alone though that certainly does come into play where the karma aspect is concerned but one of ethics, social responsibility, health of self, the animals and the planet!. How does one blithely sweep all that under the rug and accept non-veg food!? If your reason to be vegan/vegetarian is to alleviate suffering, have you forgotten about your own potential suffering!? Or The animals who are sitting on your plate!? Or the planet's for that matter!? Sorry, I don't get it at all!.
I have been on an international flight of 23 hours where the airline neglected to provide me with the vegetarian meal I had ordered!. I drank a lot of tea and water, and nibbled on some nuts but I certainly didn't touch the non-veg food they attempted to give me!. I refused it!. It wasn't the end of the world to forgo a meal of inedible flesh!. I still feel good about it, though I won't ever fly that airline again!.!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
I have been on an international flight of 23 hours where the airline neglected to provide me with the vegetarian meal I had ordered!. I drank a lot of tea and water, and nibbled on some nuts but I certainly didn't touch the non-veg food they attempted to give me!. I refused it!. It wasn't the end of the world to forgo a meal of inedible flesh!. I still feel good about it, though I won't ever fly that airline again!.!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Hm!. That's an odd question (and I mean that with the most respect!)!. It's taken me a long time to come up with an answer to this one!.!.!.!.
So, you are saying in your example that the person is still some what of a (UGH! I hate this word) flexatarian diet-wise, but fiscally does not buy products that are tested on animals, no leather, etc!. The person does not allow food to go to waste and will eat it - meat included - so it won't be thrown away!.
Yeesh!. I don't know about that!. I don't think I could do it - if there's leftover chicken or steak, it's certainly not crossing my lips!. If I knew someone who ate that food, I would take it to them so it didn't go to waste!. I see your point though - theoretically, the suffering has already taken place!. Abstaining is not going to impact the supply/demand balance!. (It's already been demanded and supplied!.!.just not by you, right!?!)
No!. I'd say that a person cannot be a fiscal vegan but not a dietary one!. The diet aspect of veganism is where the most suffering takes place!.
Cheers!
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So, you are saying in your example that the person is still some what of a (UGH! I hate this word) flexatarian diet-wise, but fiscally does not buy products that are tested on animals, no leather, etc!. The person does not allow food to go to waste and will eat it - meat included - so it won't be thrown away!.
Yeesh!. I don't know about that!. I don't think I could do it - if there's leftover chicken or steak, it's certainly not crossing my lips!. If I knew someone who ate that food, I would take it to them so it didn't go to waste!. I see your point though - theoretically, the suffering has already taken place!. Abstaining is not going to impact the supply/demand balance!. (It's already been demanded and supplied!.!.just not by you, right!?!)
No!. I'd say that a person cannot be a fiscal vegan but not a dietary one!. The diet aspect of veganism is where the most suffering takes place!.
Cheers!
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Then you are not, by definition a practicing Vegan, but instead being environmentally conscience!. There are many points of a Vegan/vegetarian lifestyle in addition to saving animals; health benefits of a proper diet, pollution, and religious/spiritual beliefs!.
Giving meat to an animal is one thing, as I don't honestly believe it is fair to push Vegan ways on our furry companions (unless of course they are natural herbivores)!. But your example of food on a plane, I don't understand, as you can order your meal to be Vegan, beforehand!.
Last week I stopped for gas, and when I went inside to pay the cashier offered the women before me a "free hot dog" with purchase promotion!. She did not want it, and turned to me and asked if I would like it!. I thanked her and politely declined!. I did the same when I was offered it, said I was vegetarian (I'm not by definition, but it's faster to say then I only eat fish once a month, and then have to explain why upon being questioned)!. I could have easily brought it home and fed it to my dog, but my logic for not doing so follows: if I accepted this free food, though I would not eat it myself and instead give it to another person who would eat it, or to my dog, then I just aided an increase to the animal killing industry and pollution, anyway!.
I know, it may seem a bit out there or extreme thinking to those that don't follow a Vegan/vegetarian lifestyle, or a environmentally conscience way, but in this case it was not going to be thrown away if I rejected it, only offered to another!.
If we take these animal products and use them, in any way, we are only telling the meat industry to make more!. We are still saying all the pollution that went into that one product, is acceptable!. We are sending the wrong message!.
In the matter of a piece of food that is intended to be thrown away if not eaten for no logical reason, then by all means feed it to a dog!. But "free" food, really isn't free, nor is it going to go to waste if you do not accept it!. So just say no to animal products in these encounters, and remember to arrange your meal before your flight!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Giving meat to an animal is one thing, as I don't honestly believe it is fair to push Vegan ways on our furry companions (unless of course they are natural herbivores)!. But your example of food on a plane, I don't understand, as you can order your meal to be Vegan, beforehand!.
Last week I stopped for gas, and when I went inside to pay the cashier offered the women before me a "free hot dog" with purchase promotion!. She did not want it, and turned to me and asked if I would like it!. I thanked her and politely declined!. I did the same when I was offered it, said I was vegetarian (I'm not by definition, but it's faster to say then I only eat fish once a month, and then have to explain why upon being questioned)!. I could have easily brought it home and fed it to my dog, but my logic for not doing so follows: if I accepted this free food, though I would not eat it myself and instead give it to another person who would eat it, or to my dog, then I just aided an increase to the animal killing industry and pollution, anyway!.
I know, it may seem a bit out there or extreme thinking to those that don't follow a Vegan/vegetarian lifestyle, or a environmentally conscience way, but in this case it was not going to be thrown away if I rejected it, only offered to another!.
If we take these animal products and use them, in any way, we are only telling the meat industry to make more!. We are still saying all the pollution that went into that one product, is acceptable!. We are sending the wrong message!.
In the matter of a piece of food that is intended to be thrown away if not eaten for no logical reason, then by all means feed it to a dog!. But "free" food, really isn't free, nor is it going to go to waste if you do not accept it!. So just say no to animal products in these encounters, and remember to arrange your meal before your flight!.Www@FoodAQ@Com