Factory farms-- hasn't anyone ever thought of a better way?!?!!!?!
I'm a brand new vegetarian, and am just finding out what happens to animals on factory farms and I always find myself thinking of how they could easily change a lot of their methods to be more humane…!.such as:
for identification- instead of branding cows, cutting pigs ears, etc-
put a freaken collar type thing around their necks, or around their ankles that are different colors or something
battery cages-
these industries are billion dollar industries- buy more cages, bigger cages- then put less in each one so they do not crush each other- give them some space damn it!!!!!
It wouldn’t cost that much!.
And hire more people to make sure that the animals are not dunked in 140 degree water alive or skinned alive- it wouldn’t cost them that much! Just a few more people!!!
And give them anesthesia that works damn it!!!!
Obviously it would be ideal to not have factories that have living beings as units, but anyway my question is- Why don’t these people think of this themselves!? ( I don’t think that much money would be lost, and it would definitely be worth it), and do u guys ever think of stuff like this, what could be changed TODAY that would take some of the suffering away!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
for identification- instead of branding cows, cutting pigs ears, etc-
put a freaken collar type thing around their necks, or around their ankles that are different colors or something
battery cages-
these industries are billion dollar industries- buy more cages, bigger cages- then put less in each one so they do not crush each other- give them some space damn it!!!!!
It wouldn’t cost that much!.
And hire more people to make sure that the animals are not dunked in 140 degree water alive or skinned alive- it wouldn’t cost them that much! Just a few more people!!!
And give them anesthesia that works damn it!!!!
Obviously it would be ideal to not have factories that have living beings as units, but anyway my question is- Why don’t these people think of this themselves!? ( I don’t think that much money would be lost, and it would definitely be worth it), and do u guys ever think of stuff like this, what could be changed TODAY that would take some of the suffering away!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
Answers:
Of course people have thought of a better way!. In the grand scheme of things, factory farming is a very new development (the last half century versus the whole of human civilization!.) But meat production is a business and it's ALL about money to them!. Bigger cages mean fewer chickens kept in the same space!. Hiring more people cuts into profits!. And going back to the way animals used to be raised for food would drive the cost of meat up to the point that only the rich would be able to afford it!. Read Fast Food Nation and you'll have an idea about what we're up against and why simplistic solutions like buying bigger cages won't solve the problem!.
What can be changed today is what you've done: you've withdrawn your support for a cruel, disgusting industry!. You've done the biggest thing you can do; now you can spread the word about how animals are really treated by the food industry!. You don't have to be a preachy or overbearing about it, but you can talk to people and you can set a good example!. If you want to be more active, look into organizations like Farm Sanctuary or Compassion Over Killing and get involved in their campaigns!. The problems you're concerned about are not going to go away overnight, but if we raise people's awareness, we may be able to turn the tide!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
What can be changed today is what you've done: you've withdrawn your support for a cruel, disgusting industry!. You've done the biggest thing you can do; now you can spread the word about how animals are really treated by the food industry!. You don't have to be a preachy or overbearing about it, but you can talk to people and you can set a good example!. If you want to be more active, look into organizations like Farm Sanctuary or Compassion Over Killing and get involved in their campaigns!. The problems you're concerned about are not going to go away overnight, but if we raise people's awareness, we may be able to turn the tide!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
You need to understand this, hon: it's not about the animals, it's about money!.
Animal foods producers don't give a sh*t about the creatures they exploit, so long as they're still making money!.
It's ALL about money!.
The easiest and most logical way of ending that suffering is to stop eating animals and their secretions!. It's really that simple!.
Congrats on going veg! It's a truly awesome way to live!Www@FoodAQ@Com
Animal foods producers don't give a sh*t about the creatures they exploit, so long as they're still making money!.
It's ALL about money!.
The easiest and most logical way of ending that suffering is to stop eating animals and their secretions!. It's really that simple!.
Congrats on going veg! It's a truly awesome way to live!Www@FoodAQ@Com
for many centuries they had a better way - small herds were raised by farmers and ranchers and cared for!.
Some small farms still do this today and a resurgence of quality and care is growing in this country!. Check out the slow foods movement!. It's about eating locally from farmers you know, whatever the food!.
For centuries people knew where their food came from!. The factory farm is a product of the last half of the Twentieth Century and hopefully will die soon - whether it is vegetables or animals that are grown!. While the cruelty issues are not there for vegetables, the poor quality issues are!. I've seen vegan trail mix
Eat local, eat quality!. Support farmers markets and businesses that support local farmers!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Some small farms still do this today and a resurgence of quality and care is growing in this country!. Check out the slow foods movement!. It's about eating locally from farmers you know, whatever the food!.
For centuries people knew where their food came from!. The factory farm is a product of the last half of the Twentieth Century and hopefully will die soon - whether it is vegetables or animals that are grown!. While the cruelty issues are not there for vegetables, the poor quality issues are!. I've seen vegan trail mix
Eat local, eat quality!. Support farmers markets and businesses that support local farmers!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Its down to money
The farming end of the meat industry does not receive enough money to provide complete animal welfare!. Its well documented and reported!.
People don't care though, thats why they continue to buy thier $1 burgers and hunt out cheap supermaket meat
When Burger King offer thier special deals do you think the CEO take a pay cut !? No, of course not, the money is directly recovered from the farmers!. Same as when supermarkets offer "2 for 1" and "half price" deals, they pass this price drop directly to the suppliers!. Chicken nuggets with 20% extra free !?!.!.!.!.that means 20% less being spent on already hurrendous conditions!.
Some examples for you from the "sustainable farming European conference" in 2007
To ensure decent animal welfare!.!.!.!.!.
Milk should be ￡5 / pint ( $10 ), its actualy 40p ( 80c )
Beef should be ￡35 /lb ( $70 ), i've no idea how much it is but guess its around ￡5 ( $10 )
Eggs should be ￡5 ( $10 ) for 6, they are about 90p ( $1!.80 )
This was initally driven by consumer ignorance!. But that cannot be the case now, people have plenty of information to know about the factory farming industry and can be much more informed!.!.!.!.so i guess it means they don't care, and cheap meat is thier priority
Its only in the last 40 years that factory farming has driven down the price of meat to the point where people now expect it at every meal!. As recently as the 1970's people woudl have meat 2 or 3 times a week, and then it would be in much smaller portions because of the price!.
There will always be cases of "local" farms that are good, but statistics tell us that the majority of meat is produced by intensive factory farming methods!. And with the 2009 yeild quotas, it will only get worse!.
If you want to do something about it, can i suggest you look at "Compassion in World Farming"!. This organisation aims to improve animal welfare in commerical environments - http://www!.ciwf!.orgWww@FoodAQ@Com
The farming end of the meat industry does not receive enough money to provide complete animal welfare!. Its well documented and reported!.
People don't care though, thats why they continue to buy thier $1 burgers and hunt out cheap supermaket meat
When Burger King offer thier special deals do you think the CEO take a pay cut !? No, of course not, the money is directly recovered from the farmers!. Same as when supermarkets offer "2 for 1" and "half price" deals, they pass this price drop directly to the suppliers!. Chicken nuggets with 20% extra free !?!.!.!.!.that means 20% less being spent on already hurrendous conditions!.
Some examples for you from the "sustainable farming European conference" in 2007
To ensure decent animal welfare!.!.!.!.!.
Milk should be ￡5 / pint ( $10 ), its actualy 40p ( 80c )
Beef should be ￡35 /lb ( $70 ), i've no idea how much it is but guess its around ￡5 ( $10 )
Eggs should be ￡5 ( $10 ) for 6, they are about 90p ( $1!.80 )
This was initally driven by consumer ignorance!. But that cannot be the case now, people have plenty of information to know about the factory farming industry and can be much more informed!.!.!.!.so i guess it means they don't care, and cheap meat is thier priority
Its only in the last 40 years that factory farming has driven down the price of meat to the point where people now expect it at every meal!. As recently as the 1970's people woudl have meat 2 or 3 times a week, and then it would be in much smaller portions because of the price!.
There will always be cases of "local" farms that are good, but statistics tell us that the majority of meat is produced by intensive factory farming methods!. And with the 2009 yeild quotas, it will only get worse!.
If you want to do something about it, can i suggest you look at "Compassion in World Farming"!. This organisation aims to improve animal welfare in commerical environments - http://www!.ciwf!.orgWww@FoodAQ@Com
It is quite true it's all about $$$!. Almost everything in the world is about $$$!.
A key catalyst however is the sheer multitude of humans and it's ravenous habit of devouring resources!.
But yes, someone HAS thought of a better way or at least they are trying!. Meats being grown from cells as opposed to factory farming animals!. Undoubtedly, it would nearly end animal suffering and push factory farming into extinction!. It's different yeah, but give it a chance!. If successful the benefits are beyond calculation!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
A key catalyst however is the sheer multitude of humans and it's ravenous habit of devouring resources!.
But yes, someone HAS thought of a better way or at least they are trying!. Meats being grown from cells as opposed to factory farming animals!. Undoubtedly, it would nearly end animal suffering and push factory farming into extinction!. It's different yeah, but give it a chance!. If successful the benefits are beyond calculation!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
I agree with veggi and spung it's all about money (just like the oil industry)!. I live in farm country in Ontario Canada so I see how a lot of farms work, so because of that (when I but meat) I choose to by from the smaller family run farms/butchers!. In my opinion the biggest contributor to animal cruelty (when talking about farms) are these mass producing farms and the large supermarkets the tend to waste a lot of the meat (having more then they need in stock and a lot of it goes bad)
If you want to eat meat, get it from a local small scale farm where the animals tend to be treated better and fed less chemicals and growth hormonesWww@FoodAQ@Com
If you want to eat meat, get it from a local small scale farm where the animals tend to be treated better and fed less chemicals and growth hormonesWww@FoodAQ@Com
It is all about money and doing things the cheapest possible way!. I know how you feel, I only learned about factory farms a year and a half ago!. They don't care about the animals, only filling up their pockets with cash!. The best we can do is not eat the animals and try to let others know how cruel the industry really is!. It has been suprising to me how many people I have met that have never heard of factory farms, unfortunatley most I have told about it don't believe it is true!.
Maybe one day things will be better for these animals, always keep hope alive for it:)Www@FoodAQ@Com
Maybe one day things will be better for these animals, always keep hope alive for it:)Www@FoodAQ@Com
I agree that factory farms are horrific, but I can say first hand not all farms are like that!. I came from a small town that is very farm oriented and the farms there are very pleasant, actually!. I saw chickens, cows (dairy and beef), and llamas (no pigs in this town) all living on pleasant farms, allowed to roam, play, be in the sunshine, and live out their lives!. Granted this was local production, but it does prove that not -all- farms are factory farms!. I think that if one was going to eat meat, they should seek out and support local farms that raise their animals humanely!. This does still unfortunately leave slaughter, which, let's face it, is never going to be good - it's death!. Death is pain!. Let me note that I am also vegetarian!. I have to ask though: do you get a lot of your information from PETA!? PETA tends to make things look more horrific than they always are, such as making it sound like there are no farms where animals are allowed to roam and live freely!. While they are far too rare, they do exist if only people knew where to find them!. Even in big cities, one can often order the foods from such farms or drive to farmer's markets if they're willing to make the commute for a cruelty-free diet!. As for your anesthesia idea: the drugs would then be in the animals' systems, possibly passed on to humans!. It's not a possibility, but there are ways they can make death somewhat less painful, which is why they stun them somehow, either with electricity or sharp hits to the head!. (Again, I reiterate I am a vegetarian, just stating some facts!.) As for the cages, they don't care about the animals being happy!. They care about the money, and they aren't likely to change!. No one said the market for meat was supposed to be an empathetic one, it's about supply and demand!. People demand lots of meat, farms produce it in mass on small budgets!. More meat, more money!. They don't sleep in the henhouse when the chickens are screaming, so why would they care!? In conclusion, I say that the meat industry is unlikely to change soon because the vast majority of people are unlikely to change!. It's a sad, but true fact: meat is death, and death is suffering!. The animals are born to die, so I suppose in everyones' eyes, their lives are of no value - just their death and the carcass left behind!.Www@FoodAQ@Com