Question to vegans...?!


Question: Question to vegans!.!.!.!?
Why do you not consume regular milk!? If we didn't milk cows, then they would be in pain and have swollen utters!.

To my knowledge, vegans don't eat anything from animals or wear anything like that!?
Why is that as a rule, and why not only if it causes them pain!?
Thats basically recycling, you take pain from the cow and consume it for your good health!.

School me!.Www@FoodAQ@Com


Answers:
That's a good question!. Like all other mammals, cows need to become pregnant in order to produce milk!. Dairy cows are impregnated every year so that they'll produce a good supply of milk!. In nature, the baby drinks the milk that the mother produces!. With dairy farming, people take the calf away from the mother cow and drink the milk intended for her baby!. Cows wouldn’t need to be milked if we didn’t take their calves away from them or impregnate them in the first place!.

The dairy industry does cause a lot of pain because the cows are slaughtered when they stop producing so much milk!. A cow's normal lifespan is 25 years, but cows raised for milk are slaughtered when they're only four or five years old!.

There's also the veal connection!. Male calves can't produce milk, right!? So they're worthless to the dairy industry, and whenever a dairy cow gives birth to a male calf, that calf is turned into veal!. The veal industry was actually created to deal with all the male calves that are useless to the dairy industry!. It's said that there's (metaphorically) a hunk of veal in every glass of milk!.

More info:
http://www!.chooseveg!.com/dairy!.aspWww@FoodAQ@Com

If we didn't artificially inseminate the cows than they wouldn't have swollen utters that need milking!. the cows are not being relieved of pain by being milked in these factories!. Sure, it is nice on the farm!. but in the factories they are hooked up to painful metal machines constantly sucking their utters dry!. they often continue squeezing long after the milk is obtained, which causes severe pain, infection, and, ulimatly, pus in the milk!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

A cow not in a dairy factory only produces milk when she has a calf to feed!. When the calf is done milking or the rancher takes the calf away, a cow's milk will dry up - just like a human's does!. The rancher lets the cow have a calf, then when the calf is weaned, they hook the cow up to a milking machine every day and - since the "demand" for milk is still there, her body continuously produces milk!. If we stop milking her, she'd dry up normally!. Yes, there would be some tenderness - just like a human has when they go thru the drying up period!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

first off their milk is not meant for our digestion

and plus the way these farmers treat their cows
I would want to drink the milk even if I wasn't vegan
its not health
with the **** they feed the cows and the hormones they pump into the cows

its jus not healthy

I stick to soy milk and rice water

so the pain and their milk play a natural role that humans have interfered with


I would imagine
the milk is for their cafes

you know like through out their life times they have several cafes

so
thats what I thoughtWww@FoodAQ@Com

cows produce milk for the same reason humans do: to feed their young!. but calves are taken away from their mothers on their first day of birth and fed milk replacers so we can have the milk instead!. the cows are repeadetly impregnated to keep a steady supply of milk and hooked from their utters to electronic milking machines which causes them to suffer electric shocks, painful lesions, and mastitis, or inflammination of the mammary glands!. and instead of making 16 pounds of milk a day (only enough for their calves) they make an average of 50!.

so actually ur wrong and it gives them more pain and suffering by milking them!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

*I AM NOT A VEGAN BUT I DO HAVE AN ANSWER*

Vegans do not eat anything from an animal because they think it is unfair for us to kill animals so they can eat them!. Same with wearing them!. They will eat or drink anything dairy because it comes from animals!. They will only eat stuff from plants!. Why!?
1!. Don't want animals to die for them!.
2!. Plainly just don't want to eat something that was moving!.
3!. Grossed out because it came from an animal!.

Those are some of the reasons!.

NOTICE: If you are or know a vegan please do not get mad because this answer is offeneding or wrong to you!Www@FoodAQ@Com

Someone above me wrote a really long answer about how bad the dairy industry is!. However, she lacked common sense!. Would it make sense if they shot every baby bull born!? No, because dairy farms don't have the facilities to process the meat and they aren't going to leave a dead body lying around for days until a processing lab comes and picks it up!. We bought our feeder steers from a dairy farm last year!. They are exceptionally stupid animals, and it took much patience to work with and train them!. Most dairy farms send their baby bulls off to a feedlot, or they keep them for breeding!. I wouldn't listen to anything else she said; obviously she lacks quality information as many vegans tend to!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

Rather than trying to refute all these "facts" just let me say that there are way too many vegans who have never even seen a cow in real life, let alone watched it go through life on a dairy!. Keep that in mind as they "educate" you!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

because when the farmers hook them up to those machines they injure them !.
and they have to artificially impregnate them !.

go to goveg!.com and watcht the "Meet Your Meat" video !.

:)Www@FoodAQ@Com

Wtf is regular milk!? There's cow's, goat's, lamb's, soy, rice, bean!. All kinds of milk!. God!Www@FoodAQ@Com

Oh, but it DOES cause them pain!. And a (short) lifetime of suffering!. Claiming that we're doing cows a favor by milking them is ludicrous; if we didn't force them to breed then take their infants away within 24 hours of birth, there would be no swollen udder issue!.

Left to their own devices, cows would calf every two to three years!. In an average dairy operation, they are artificially inseminated every 11 months using an apparatus that the industry itself refers to as a "rape rack!." Male calves are removed at birth and sold to the veal crates; females are removed and raised on formula until they can follow their mothers into production!. Modern dairy cows have been bred to have oversized udders, and are pumped full of steroids and hormones; the result is milk production some 10 times what nature designed them for!. That increased production combined with mechanical milking results in a painful infection called mastitis and routine antibiotics are added to the chemical mix!. While a dairy cow would normally live for 15-20 years, in modern dairy operations, they are "used up" after 4-6 and are slaughtered for cheap beef!.

That's why dairy is bad for cows!. Why it's bad for people is a whole other answer!. If you really believe that its consumption is "for your good health" you have more or less been brainwashed by the dairy industry; did you know that most "nutrition education" provided in America's public schools is taught using materials provided for free by the state dairy councils!? Do you think there's a possibility that those materials may have a pro-milk bias!? I sure do!. Milk is full of saturated fat and cholesterol!. The majority of the human population is lactose intolerant after about the age of five because nature designed us to consume mother's milk in infancy, not to consume the milk of another species into adulthood!. Cow's milk is designed to double the weight of a calf in the first 40 days of life and to grow a beast weighing half a ton in the first year; this is not exactly the "good health" goal of the average human being! If you want further compelling reading on the role of dairy protein in the development of disease, read "The China Study" by T!. Colin Campbell!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

It's partially because, it is, of course, from an animal!. However, it is also because, in my opinion, milk is the most cruel animal product!. Allow me to explain!. Cows cannot lactate (make milk) without giving birth or getting pregnant!. What happens many times is that the cow is artificially inseminated, or they can naturally give birth!. When they give birth, the calf isn't usually kept, but rather shipped off to a veal farm shortly after birth, often after about 2 days!. There, it is kept in a pen, in which has little to no room for them to move around!. While her child is being murdered, the mother is having the milk, originally meant for her calf, being taken from her through machines that automatically milk her!. Those machines are used way too often, and cut the udders of the cow, often causing sores that PRODUCE PUS, WHICH ENDS UP IN THE MILK!. Once that milk runs dry, they once again get it pregnant, and the whole cycle restarts!. Often times, the cow's udders get so big, that the cow actually collapses of exaustion!. If this happens and the cow cannot get back up, it is sold to fast food chains for their beef!. So, the biggest reasons why people should be vegans and not consume dairy products is because they are taking a product that is not rightfully theirs, not made for humans, supporting the meat industry when buying dairy, CONTAINS PUS, and isn't even that healthy, due to the high amounts of saturated fat and cholesterol!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

Hi, this is why I don't drink regular milk, its an awful life for a dairy cow and her offspring!.
The Facts about Dairy Cows

Cows' milk is the liquid secreted by the mammary glands of female cows for the nourishment of their calves!. To produce milk, the cow must become pregnant and give birth!.

The image of dairy cows living an idyllic life, happily munching away on grass in open green fields is, sadly, far from being a reality!. Most dairy cows suffer terribly during their unnaturally short intense lives!. Dairy farming is the single largest agricultural sector in Britain!. Animals are viewed and, therefore, treated as milk-producing machines - units of production, being constantly manipulated to increase efficiency!. Holstein and Friesian are the most common breeds in the UK!.

How are dairy cows kept!?
Most dairy cows graze on pasture during spring and summer months and are housed indoors in cowsheds during the winter!. The practice of keeping dairy cows indoors for most of the year is increasing!. In some cases, cows are kept indoors all year - this is known as zero-grazing!.

How much milk does a dairy cow produce!?
Dairy cows are commonly referred to as the most over-worked of all farm animals, forced to produce higher and higher milk yields over the past 50 years - 119% over all breeds!. Dairy cows now produce 20-50 litres of milk each day - approximately ten times as much milk as her calf would suckle!.

How do dairy cows keep producing milk!?
The modern dairy cow must remain lactating, which means being in a constant cycle of pregnancy!. She is first impregnated, usually artificially, at 15-18 months, giving birth nine months later when she is just over two years old!. After about 12 hours her calf is taken away from her forever, so that her milk can be extracted and sold for human consumption!. Separation of mother and infant causes acute anxiety and suffering to both animals - calves can be heard calling for their mothers long after they have been separated!. Impregnated again, just two to three months after each calving, cows are simultaneously lactating and pregnant for at least seven months of the year!. They will produce up to 10,000 litres of milk during each lactation!.

Often cows have only 2-4 calves before becoming 'worn out', either through chronic health problems or infertility, and are sent for slaughter, often for low-grade meat such as burgers!. In the UK, because of BSE regulations, no cow over 30 months old is used for food!.

What happens to the calves!?
Female calves may be kept for milk-production!. However, male (bull) dairy calves are an unwanted by-product of the milk-production industry!. Unwanted by the farmer, they are often shot or killed by electrocution within a few days of birth and used in baby food, cheese and pie ingredients or for dog food!.

Do dairy cows suffer!?
The demand for the massive over-production of milk has had severe welfare implications for dairy cows and has resulted in a number of so-called production diseases!.

Mastitis
Mastitis is a painful bacterial infection of the udder that causes inflammation and swelling!. The udder becomes hard and hot with an abnormal discharge!. Studies show that over one-third of the UK dairy herd suffers from mastitis!. The cow is often lame in one or both hind legs with swollen joints!. Body temperature can be high and in some cases pregnant cows will abort or produce a stunted calf!. Mastitis can lead to depressed appetite, dehydration and severe diarrhoea!. It can be fatal!.

Poor hygiene in cubicle houses and poorly designed and maintained milking machines are major contributors!. Milking occurs two to three times per day and is fully mechanised!. Automated milking machines extract milk by a method known as vacuum pulsation!. This can weaken tissue and make the teats more prone to infections like mastitis!.

The financial cost of mastitis to farmers is often high, with millions of doses of antibiotics (often penicillin) being used to treat it every year!. The cost to cows in terms of pain and suffering is much harder to quantify!.

Lameness
A cow's udders can be so huge and swollen that they force her hind legs apart, causing a distortion of the hind limbs!. Her foot becomes predisposed to damage and inflammation causing considerable suffering and pain!.

She is also often forced to stand with her hind feet in the passageway behind the cubicle where manure and urine collect!. This can soften the cow's hooves and encourages infection!.

Yield-boosting starchy high-protein feeds that increase milk output can lead to ruminal acidosis, too much acid in the cow's rumen!. This in turn leads to inflammatory substances being released into the blood, which supplies the sensitive laminae of the cow's feet!. The feet become hot, swollen and inflamed, causing and exacerbating lameness!.

Scientific surveys have shown a mean annual incidence of lameness of over 50%, with practically all cows showing signs of foot damage by the time they are slaughtered!.

BSE
Over 100,000 cases of Bovine Spongiform Encepholopathy (BSE) have been confirmed in the UK and, as most animals are slaughtered before they are old enough to show any symptoms, the true number of infected animals could be much higher!.

Other diseases
Dairy cows can also suffer from a range of other diseases!. These can include ketosis, milk fever, grass staggers, viral pneumonia, salmonellosis, bovine virus diarrhoea, brucellosis and endometritis!. Most of these diseases result in terrible suffering!. They are caused and exacerbated by the cows being pushed too hard to produce huge milk yields!.

Artificial breeding techniques
Up to 75% of dairy cows in the UK are impregnated by artificial insemination (AI)!. An increasing number are being bred using a procedure known as embryo transfer!. This is so painful that, when being undertaken, the law requires that an epidural anaesthetic be administered!. Embryo transfer is used to multiply quickly the 'highest quality' cows!. These cows are given drugs to cause 'superovulation', so that their oocytes (egg cells) can be retrieved and used for embryo transfer to lower quality surrogate mothers!.

How long is a dairy cow's life!?
Cows that do not produce enough milk are often killed after only one lactation!. Other cows may be killed if they are not easy to handle, become ill or have calving problems!.

By the time she is just five years old, she is worn out by the strain of constant production and is slaughtered as a 'spent' or 'cast' dairy cow!. She may be so run- down and emaciated that her back and hip bones protrude!. A cow's natural lifespan could be as much as 25 years!.

How are dairy cows killed!?
Most cows are slaughtered by throat-cutting (called sticking) following stunning using a captive bolt pistol!. The captive bolt pistol is fired into the cow's head and penetrates her brain!. However, the captive bolt pistol does not always successfully stun the animal!. Mis-stunning causes considerable distress, with the animal still conscious during throat-cutting!.

Because of BSE, no cattle older than 30 months are permitted to go into the human food chain!. Instead, they are killed and burned and their remains stored in giant warehouses around the country!.

What is BST!?
BST, or Bovine Somatotropin is a genetically-engineered version of a cow's own growth hormone and is injected into the cow to increase milk yield!. It usually causes long-lasting swellings at the injection site, doubles the length of the period of catabolic stress experienced by lactating cows after calving and increases the chances of a cow contracting mastitis!. These health and welfare issues led to an EU ban!. However, BST is still being used in several countries, including the USA, whose dairy products are still being imported into the EU!.

Is there any welfare-friendly milk!?
Organic dairy farming can cause less suffering to dairy cows!. However, conditions for the cows are far from ideal, with many animals often suffering from diseases such as mastitis and lameness!. In order to lactate, the cows still need to be made pregnant!. Male calves are still a by-product and are usually taken away from their mothers within 24 hours, and many are shot!. There is no such thing as 'humane milk' - the only truly welfare-friendly type of milk is non-dairy and obtained from plants!.

Is cow's milk a food for humans!?
Humans are the only animals who regularly drink the milk of another animal!. Milk is essentially a modern, industrial phenomenon - its consumption really took off after the discovery of pasteurisation in 1864!. Nowadays, governments, including American and British, often have departments playing the dual role of promoting agricultural products and providing dietary advice!.

The scientific research on the health benefits or threats is often contradictory - however it must be remembered that the research is usually funded by the hugely powerful milk industry!. Some scientific studies have shown milk to cause illnesses including diabetes, prostate cancer, breast cancer and osteoporosis!. For more information visit the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM) or the Vegan Society!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

hmmm i am not a vegan by any means but you certainly raise a good point!.!.!.!.!.!.!.Www@FoodAQ@Com





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