Something bothers me about vegetarians, maybe they should not eat at all?!


Question: Something bothers me about vegetarians, maybe they should not eat at all!?
The thing is, yeah, animals respond to their environment, and they are alive!. But, so are plants!. So, how can you say you do not eat meat because you do not want something to suffer, yet you will chew on a plant that is still alive!? I do not understand that!. also, our teeth are designed to eat meat!.

I do not intend to be disrespectful, as I do not find ripping meat off bones with my meat eater teeth to be the most pleasant activity, but if you refuse to hurt animals, how could you turn around and kill a plant!?Www@FoodAQ@Com


Answers:
A vegan lifestyle decreases the volume of plants you eat compared to an omnivorous diet because of the way energy is utilized in the food chain!. Each trophic level only passes on 5% of the engergy it takes in!. So lets say you start with 100 units of light energy to grow plants!. If you eat those plants you consume 5 units of energy!. If you eat an animal that eats those plants you're only utilizing 1/4 a unit of energy!. What that means is that when you eat mean, you are causing more plants to be killed, because of the plants necessary to raise livestock then if you eat plants directly!. A vegan/vegetarian diet is not about eliminating suffering (such a task is impossible), but it is about minimizing it!. I believe a vegan diet is one of the best ways to do that!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

Yes, plants are alive, but they do not reproduce!. They do not feel actual pain!. And yes, are our teeth our made to eat meat, but not exactly specifically, and many of us do not choose to!. So could you just understand that the reason we vegetarians are vegetarians is that we do not only like the idea of something being killed for our taste, but also because of the suffering and end of life and cut off before reproduction!. Plants don't suffer like that!. Animals do!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

Maybe it's because plants don't have brains, or a face with eyes etc etc!. I don't mind vegetarians or meat eaters - each to their own - but I hate those boring people who whine on and on and on about their diet, or people with supposed allergies!. Other people aren't interested in their latest food fads or what does and does not bring them out in a rash!. I don't care!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

i think you might find many people are vegetarian or vegan for environmental, ecological and socio-political reasons!. Most won't go around telling you that they "choose not to eat cows b/c cows are cute"; but that livestock raising can be (is) energy expensive and a poor use of natural resources!.

but i'm not a vegetarian so what do i know!. ;)Www@FoodAQ@Com

I can't interact with a plant the way I can with a chicken or a cow !.!.!. because we all know what awesome company chickens and cows are!. (So with that mentality, I guess if I find you boring, you run the risk of being eaten by me !.!.!. !?) But in the immortal words of one of the forgettable characters from John Tucker Must Die; "I don't eat anything with a face"!.

Mostly, flesh just feels wrong in my mouth though!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

something really bothers me about you "Behind the Times People"! first of all, to educate you a little, plants don't have a brain or a nervous system therefore we can eat them all the time without them feeling pain!. Second i think we'd all look pretty funny w/ out teeth! All mammals have teeth!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

Go to youtube, slaughter house videos, then try and eat a burger!.


ps!. its so funny that all you have got back is 'ohhh killing plants s cruel too' so does a plant suffer boredom!? do they scream in pain!? do the self narcotize!? get a better argument please!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

'Something bothers me about vegetarians!.!.!.' Why!? Why do vegetarians bother you!? If you're not one, and don't intend to become one, why on earth are you wasting your one and only life fretting about them!?Www@FoodAQ@Com

What exactly are you trying to prove!? Educated vegetarians know that what you are trying to dish out is useless information and a waste of time!. Eat what you want!.!.I could care less but what I eat is none of your business!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

Plants, unlike animals ARE NOT SENTIENT BEINGS!!! THEY CANNOT FEEL OR COMPRIHEND PAIN!!! It's the unneccesary suffering of the animals that makes people become vegetarian/vegan!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

Great question!.!.And besides that!.!.God put animals on this planet as part of our cycle to live!. They were put on this Earth to consume!.!.as well as the plants!.!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

our teeth aren't made to eat meat! meat eating teeth are sharp! plus, plants can't even feel the pain!Www@FoodAQ@Com

What do you expect people to eat!? Seriously!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

dear meet eater!.
eat any thing,

pig,fowls eat human excrete(you know what it is)!.

then humans eat it!.
thats itWww@FoodAQ@Com

I wish I could eat God!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

there is no karma in consuming plants dudeWww@FoodAQ@Com

the answer for plants not being able to feel pain was already answered: they do not have a nervous systems!.

reasons for my vegetarianism:

1!. The factory farming system!. Animals are not protected by law from horrible cruelties that go on in the factory farming system!. They are raised and killed VERY inhumanely!.

2!. WASTED RESOURCES!. there is too much wasted water and grain, alot of resources go into producing a smaller ammount of meat and most americans already over-eat meat!.

3!. POLLUTION: the meat industry pollutes more than all the vehicles, airplanes and ships of the whole world put together!. Cows release methane which harms the enviroments!. Run-offs pollute rivers and lakes!. We are using up groundwater faster than it is being replaced (same with fossil fuels)!.

4!. FOR MY CONSCIENCE!. i dont like to eat meat knowing that the animals suffered, it is my way to protest or to stop supporting something i am against!. In other words, because I CAN be vegetarian, it comes easy, so why not (there are many people for whom it is difficult)!.i find it hard not to be vegetarian!.

i dont think it is unnatural to eat meat!. i beleive humans have needed it to survive, but i think now-a days nothing is natural anymore, before there were no factory farms, no hormones or antibiotics!.

for X MIMI X!. there is one thing that makes us different from a tigger , we are human beings, we have the abilities to reason and feel compassion!. That is the main thing that differenciates us from animals!. There is something special that cant be explained, that is why religion exists!. It is common for you to disagree with indians or vegetarians, in this world there are many people that disagree with each other over countless things!. I find it PATHETIC that you actually go as far as to say you have a PROBLEM with vegetarians/hindus/buddhists etc!.!. The only reason you would actually have a PROBLEM with vegetarians is when they make you question your own morals, thoughts or beliefs otherwise you would just go on with your life ignoring them right!?Www@FoodAQ@Com

yh i also have problems with vegeterians,if the lions eat meat and the tigers eat meat and the rest of the carnivores eat meat, it kind of obvious that we are aloud to eat meat, we have cainines which are used for eating meat, i dont understand some indian people say there not aloud to eat meat in there religione because there gods said so, well guesse what vegeterians!. why did god make lions eat meat!? cause vegeterians (indians) says that there gods dont allow them to eat meat because it harms animals!.!.!.!. so again why did god make 79% of the animals eat meat!?


by the way leah plant do reproduce, if they dont thn we wouldnt even have plants today!

And yes our teeth are desighned to eat meat, but not ripping of there meat just eating meat!!
(the pointy teeth we have is called a K9 to make it easier to eat meat)

our k9 teeth is not used for eating vegetables and fruits, this is true because horses and giraffs and the rest of the herbivores DO NOT HAVE K9 teeths!

if vegeterians dont want to eat meat because it will be mean to the animals, well what the diffrence if vegeterians dont eat meat the animals are still being killed vegeterians are not helping the animals at all!.!.!.!. so what the whole point!?!?!?
it nature to eat meat and vegetables, and not all animals die from factories that only Mcdonalds,
(if your a muslim animals are killed in a less meaner way!.)Www@FoodAQ@Com

Actually our teeth aren't design to eat meat!. Our teeth are more design for eating fruits!. also many herbivores animals have canines for example : A horse , you might not think they do but look at the dental structure of a horse and you will see!.

also if we were design to eat meat , than we would have claws to rip into flesh ,and to kill the prey!. also if we were omnivores than we wouldn't have health problems from consuming too much meat!. Labs have tried experiments’ on dogs ( which are omnivorous) to thicken their arties!. They failed at it!. They tried pumping pure animal fat into them but then again failed!.

also about killing a plant , well a plant doesn’t have nervous system or the ability to think , hear , or show emotions!.

- Matt!Www@FoodAQ@Com

plants normally creat a fruit to be eaten, as this fruit or even a limb of the plant can be removed and the plant wont die (though there is a chance depending on amont of damage done) now try that with a cow!.

human teeth are fairly rounded and flat, this would suggest a herbivorious diet!. people believe canines and incisors are designed to rend flesh, but animals such as rabbits have fairly similar teeth, and the are purely herbavores!.

the biological arguement of "if humans where not ment to eat meat, how can the body digest it!?' is flawed becuase the body of all mammals are disigned to process the animal protien, this is becuase of milk feeding at birth!. this ability diminishes with age of most animals, especially in regards to herbavores!. but in animals like humans the ability is continued due to the need to process it due to the continued use of it, this is simalir to working out you arms; with time you will gain muscle mass and greater use!. also it is documented that animals that are herbavores will also eat meat when other food is not available, i!.e!. a cow would eat mice and chicks for protein when they are not getting enough!. this is suggested by some historians on how humans started to evolve to eat meat!. (yes, humans evolve!.)

Plants are easier to keep alive while removing its flesh, though this is possible to do with animals to but it is a little more complicated, messy, and disturbing (though some people would state 'more fun' but those people have problems) So, just becuase you are eating part of the plant doesn't mean you kill it!. now go eat an apple!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

Well with plants they are designed to produce vegetables and fruits and we don't kill them!. Some people become breathaterians and they breath and drink water and live a short life!. Animal cruelty and loving animals is very important to us!. It's places like mcdonalds, burger king, toco bell, and so many other places that just completly waste meat!. Although the food chains won't stop for many years to come we all are making a huge difference!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

Simply put: plants do not have a nervous system!.

Its the nerves that register pain and pleasure, which is why when someone gives me the argument that animals are not sentient beings, I present them with simple science!. No one can deny that animals have a nervous system, and therefore can register pain and pleasure!.
I recognize that plants are living creatures which breathe, reproduce in their own way, and respond to their environment, and I'm not even against eating animals when it is for survival (a person who willingly goes to spend time in the wilderness does not count, it was never necessary for them to be there in the first place in which it becomes a sport of sorts)!.
What it comes down to for me is the anatomy which might make it possible for something to feel pain!.


Well now it seems your just a troll!.
Thanks to Mockingbird and Hollywood for their wonderful responses!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

Meat, at one point untill it was killed, had a spinal cord!. Anything with a spinal cord has a nerve system!. With a nerve system, you can feel pain!. Now, let me ask you a question!? When is the last time you've seen a head of lettuce with a spinal cord!? Didn't think so!. I appreciate you not intending to be disrespectful!. It's great when people treat us like people and not freaks from Veggie World, lol! Our teeth may be designed for meat, doesn't mean we want to eat it!. Hope I cleared a bit up!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

Lewis, your teeth are not designed to eat meat, You do not have sufficient strength of jaw or sharpness of incisor or dog teeth to do that, your teeth and jaw are not designed to take down an animal on the hoof either, you aren't fast enough, can't leap high enough, and are not strong enough to take down a wild animal on the hoof, nor are your hands equipped with talons to rend and tear!.
Furthermore, plants have the ability to turn off their pain mechanism and offer up their fruit when they are told that it is time for harvest!. Tell that to an animal and you will get a very different reaction one that floods their tissues with hormones for anger and fear!. Don't you have enough of that all on you own!? Seems like it!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

Plants are not animals!. They do NOT have personalities or feelings!. And to respond to xmimix's remark; most people do not go and hunt food for themselves, they go to the store a purchase it!. Animals have skills and qualities and instincts they were born with in order to survive!. They don't go up to a grocery store a purchase their meals, they do the work by their self!. Animals are killed in cruel, horrible factory farms where they have to suffer until they end up in the stomach of some ungrateful person who thinks that animals' only purpose is to feed them!. Most people who hunt do it as a hobby and use weapons!.

Bottom line: plants aren't people, plants aren't animals, they do not feel pain!. Technically fungus is a living organism as well, but they don't have feeling either!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

Some people are vegetarians, because of religions!.
Their religions state that all humans and animals have souls!.
You will get bad karma if you kill!.

Another reason is due to reincarnation!.
Reincarnation is like the recycling of the souls!.

In the reincarnation process, it is not necessary that human soul will be reincarnated into another human soul!.
It could be
human => animal
animal => human
where you get reincarnated all depends on the karma!.

Therefore, the religion forbid the eating of meat because you could be eating your dead relatives!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

Plants don't feel pain!. Even if they DID, the level of suffering would not match the suffering that goes on in Factory Farms!.

Please don't be bothered by vegetarians, vegetarianism is about minimsing animal cruelty, we realise that suffering will not be fully eradicated!. Vegetarianism is a way of expressing concern over the environment & compassion to animals!.

I don't like to see people become intolerant of vegetarians, you can eat what you want, but vegearians can eat what they want too!.

Oh, and our teeth are rounded, not sharp!. We do not have a carnivore's teeth because our teeth are not pointy!.

We ALL have the freedom to eat what we like with no discrimination involved!.

[edit] Karen is right- we have evolved to the point
where we can live healthily without meat!. It;s NO longer an essential part of the human diet!.

However, if you want to eat meat, that is up to you, I won't bash you for your choice!. You have as much right as anyone else to eat what you like!.

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I tried to be reasonable with you, but you don't want our opinions!. To say plants feel pain is bullcrap- they don't have central nervous systems!. If you cannot understand this simple thing, maybe it's time to go back to school!.Www@FoodAQ@Com

Are you honestly suggesting that our canines compare to those of a carnivore!? Ours aren't sharp and pointy; rather they are nicely suited to piercing the rinds of fruits and vegetables!.

Comparative anatomy aside, though, you're setting up some really false logic here!. Some veg*ns chose it to reduce suffering!. We tend to believe that animals are sentient beings, capable of feeling pain because they have similar nervous systems and brains to our own!. Plants do not have nervous systems or brains so they cannot experience pain or suffering!. Regardless of whether plants feel pain, though, you seem to be suggesting that because veg*ns can't completely eliminate ALL suffering that we shouldn't bother trying to eliminate SOME suffering!. You could use this attitude to cop out of a lot of responsible, ethical actions!.

Plus, your question completely disregards the environmental/ecological aspect of veg*nism!. The UN's climate change report determined that animal agriculture contributes to global climate change to an even greater degree than all forms of transportation combined!. Transitioning from a meat-eating diet to a vegan diet has been compared to switching from driving an SUV to riding a bicycle!. It's one of the most impactful decisions an individual can make to reduce their carbon footprint!. Using arable land to grow plants to feed to animals raised for food is an egregious waste of resources!. Using that land to grow food for people would reduce human suffering as it reduces animal suffering!. And, since you seem to be so concerned about plant welfare, it may be relevant to point out that meat eaters, since they inevitably also eat plants, are responsible for the death of more plants than veg*ns are (all the plants they eat themselves and all the plants whose lives were snuffed out in the production of the meat they eat!.)

Since your right to rip the meat off of bones is not actually at risk, I wonder why you let the eating habits of others bother you to begin with!. I've made a choice that I'm comfortable with!. I believe that I'm doing what I can to reduce suffering and reduce my negative impact on the health of the planet!. I don't require that you do the same or even that you agree with me, so why should it bother you!?Www@FoodAQ@Com

Well this is from Nena sandwhich:
"Your an ***! Do you like your hamburger with a side of murder!?!!?! You shall be mauled by a pack of cannibals!.!.!. you'd like that wouldnt you!.!.!.!. good time to tell you im a cannible then huh!?!?!?"
Well she happens to be a vegtarian and i believe you have offended her, do it again and ill be forced to persoanlly maul you myslef!Www@FoodAQ@Com





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