Kosher and kill humanly?!
i've recently heard that if theirs kosher meat it means that the animal is kill humanly!? is this true becaues whos to say that the cow is kosher or not because stuff happens behind closed doors!. i mean serously just becaues it says that its kosher dont mean anything really!. i mean how are you gona tell!?
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Kosher just refers to a bunch of ridiculous hocus pocus that is supposed to make the flesh of the animals "clean"!.
It has nothing to do with humanely killijng the animals, though that is what most people would have you believe!.
I recommend that you watch "Earthlings":
http://video!.google!.com/videosearch!?q=ea!.!.!.
The largest producer of "kosher" meat is seen turning cattle upside down and pulling their trachea from their necks after slashing them open!. The animals must be fully conscious for this event or else it cannot be considered "kosher"!. The traumatized animal is then dumped down a chute while fully conscious and choking on its own blood!.
The ideas of "kosher" and "halal" are two of the cruelest and biggest jokes on this planet!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
It has nothing to do with humanely killijng the animals, though that is what most people would have you believe!.
I recommend that you watch "Earthlings":
http://video!.google!.com/videosearch!?q=ea!.!.!.
The largest producer of "kosher" meat is seen turning cattle upside down and pulling their trachea from their necks after slashing them open!. The animals must be fully conscious for this event or else it cannot be considered "kosher"!. The traumatized animal is then dumped down a chute while fully conscious and choking on its own blood!.
The ideas of "kosher" and "halal" are two of the cruelest and biggest jokes on this planet!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Kosher & Halal slaughter houses in most cases are just as cruel (if not more so) as conventional slaughter houses!. Kosher and Halal is also concerned with the "cleanliness" of the meat, prayers, and other customs, so reducing cruelty is not the major objective!. Perhaps in the past Kosher and Halal slaughter may have been more humane in the past, but to meet the increasing demand for Kosher/Halal meat, slaughter house standards have dropped as they try and process an ever increasing number of animals!. Slaughter is still slaughter, the animals still end up dead!. I disagree with all forms of animal slaughter!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
The term has nothing to do with animal welfare!.
Its usually associated with Judaism and "kosher" food, such as meat and dairy not touching, or being consumed in the same meal!.
Its original definition means "the highest standard of cleanliness", which is an ironic term to apply to something which is by definition dead and rotting!.
And yes, you're absolutely right!. Who is to say that meat companies aren't misleading in labelling their products about what is and is not kosher!. They generally don't give a damn about public health or ethical concerns, you'll find!.!.!.!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Its usually associated with Judaism and "kosher" food, such as meat and dairy not touching, or being consumed in the same meal!.
Its original definition means "the highest standard of cleanliness", which is an ironic term to apply to something which is by definition dead and rotting!.
And yes, you're absolutely right!. Who is to say that meat companies aren't misleading in labelling their products about what is and is not kosher!. They generally don't give a damn about public health or ethical concerns, you'll find!.!.!.!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Some info on Kosher beef:
Cows must be in excellent health if their beef is to be kosher!. Even in a healthy herd, only about 40 percent of the cows end up being kosher!.
Kosher cattle are slaughtered young -- 18 to 24 months -- before they can acquire any illnesses or blemishes that would render them treif (nonkosher)!.
"Downers" -- animals that are too sick to walk to the slaughter -- have never been considered kosher!.
Kosher slaughter precludes the use of stun guns to the head, a preslaughter procedure that could loosen and spread brain or nerve matter -- where BSE (mad cow disease) is most likely to reside!. The stripping devices used in nonkosher meat processing make it likely that spinal chord or other nerve tissue will end up in ground or processed beef, while kosher processors do not use such mechanisms!.
In other words: The kosher animal is conscious, you slit the throat!.!.!.they are no longer conscious!.
Compared to this nonkosher beef: The animal is stunned, the animal wasn't stunned good enough and are still moving but are now in more pain, the animal is restunned, the animal falls on the ground into a pool of blood (this makes then automatically NOT Kosher), the animal then has its throat slit!.!.!.they are no longer conscious!.
The both sound horrible, but which sounds worse!?
In a PETA undercover investigation of a kosher slaughterhouse, they filmed 2 cows who "appeared" conscious after they were supposed to be dead!. 2 cows!. Out of 250 cows that day!. USDA carefully presides over slaughters and if there is reason to believe a plant is not sufficiently killing the animals, they are shut down!. I'm not going to bother arguing with anyone on the matter of "humane killing", as I am a vegetarian who happens to be Jewish, I'm just saying that if there was reason to believe Kosher slaughterhouses were "more inhumane" than a traditional slaughterhouse, they would be shut down!. A slaughterhouse is a slaughterhouse!. The only difference is whether or not the cow receives a prayer!.
also, there is more to the Kosher diet than just having a rabbi preside over the killing!. There are whole restrictions on what foods you can and can't eat, like pork or leavened bread on some holidays!. If someone is suspicious of their Kosher beef, all they have to do is not eat it because really there is no "proof" its Kosher aside from what the package says!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Cows must be in excellent health if their beef is to be kosher!. Even in a healthy herd, only about 40 percent of the cows end up being kosher!.
Kosher cattle are slaughtered young -- 18 to 24 months -- before they can acquire any illnesses or blemishes that would render them treif (nonkosher)!.
"Downers" -- animals that are too sick to walk to the slaughter -- have never been considered kosher!.
Kosher slaughter precludes the use of stun guns to the head, a preslaughter procedure that could loosen and spread brain or nerve matter -- where BSE (mad cow disease) is most likely to reside!. The stripping devices used in nonkosher meat processing make it likely that spinal chord or other nerve tissue will end up in ground or processed beef, while kosher processors do not use such mechanisms!.
In other words: The kosher animal is conscious, you slit the throat!.!.!.they are no longer conscious!.
Compared to this nonkosher beef: The animal is stunned, the animal wasn't stunned good enough and are still moving but are now in more pain, the animal is restunned, the animal falls on the ground into a pool of blood (this makes then automatically NOT Kosher), the animal then has its throat slit!.!.!.they are no longer conscious!.
The both sound horrible, but which sounds worse!?
In a PETA undercover investigation of a kosher slaughterhouse, they filmed 2 cows who "appeared" conscious after they were supposed to be dead!. 2 cows!. Out of 250 cows that day!. USDA carefully presides over slaughters and if there is reason to believe a plant is not sufficiently killing the animals, they are shut down!. I'm not going to bother arguing with anyone on the matter of "humane killing", as I am a vegetarian who happens to be Jewish, I'm just saying that if there was reason to believe Kosher slaughterhouses were "more inhumane" than a traditional slaughterhouse, they would be shut down!. A slaughterhouse is a slaughterhouse!. The only difference is whether or not the cow receives a prayer!.
also, there is more to the Kosher diet than just having a rabbi preside over the killing!. There are whole restrictions on what foods you can and can't eat, like pork or leavened bread on some holidays!. If someone is suspicious of their Kosher beef, all they have to do is not eat it because really there is no "proof" its Kosher aside from what the package says!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
I believe for a meat to be marked kosher a specially trained Rabi has to do the actual killing!. Google it since the method sounds gross to describe on here, but it is supposed to be the most humane way to kill an animal!. Reading about it makes me happy I'm a live long Vegan!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Krister's right!. For some reason people have the idea that kosher slaughter is somehow more humane, when in fact the requirement that the animals are conscious makes it less humane!. In conventional slaughter at least the *idea* is that animals are stunned first, though that often happen in practice!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Technically the Kosher method is more humane, but your still killing an animal!. I'm a vegetarian, but I'd support a bill making all slaughter houses Kosher, this would help keep sickly animals out of the omnivore food supply, and require more humane treatment of farm animals!.Www@FoodAQ@Com