Are vegans pro-life? +20 characters long?!
If people don't eat eggs because of considering it an animal, does that mean they consider a fetus to be a human!? I hope this isnt' taken as offensive!. It's not meant to be!. So if you are vegan for moral reasons, are you also pro-life!?
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Nope!. I am vegan now for health reasons, but before when I first went vegan, I did it because of cruelty!. The cruel part is how they treat the birds, they are in an unkept environment, are beaten, and never do they get the chance to live like they are supposed to!. Eggs are actually infertile, so they will never be alive, they are never going to grow or breath!.
I am completely pro-choice, but I would avoid an abortion at all cost!.
Even if I was raped, I would still have the child!.
I know many people though that need that choice, some for medical reasons, others phycological(sp!?)!. I dont think it should be used as a form of birth control though!. Www@FoodAQ@Com
I am completely pro-choice, but I would avoid an abortion at all cost!.
Even if I was raped, I would still have the child!.
I know many people though that need that choice, some for medical reasons, others phycological(sp!?)!. I dont think it should be used as a form of birth control though!. Www@FoodAQ@Com
I am vegan and I am pro-choice!. I do not believe in eating foods acquired from animals who cannot give their consent or dissent and because the chickens who give those eggs are kept in appalling conditions!.
I am also not in favor of battery mothers and would not eat a human woman's eggs scrambled with cheese, especially if she were being kept in a coop against her will!. That would violate my vegan beliefs!.
Now in the case of rape, incest or when the life of the mother is in danger, I believe in abortion!. And I would support a chicken's right to choose in these circumstances as well!.
Here is my counter question!. If pro-lifers are not in favor of eating a human woman's eggs, keeping her with 5 other women in a tiny cage and forcing her to give up her eggs at an insane pace while never letting her see sunlight (neocons, I don't mean you - I know you would do this), wouldn't it be sensible to also not eat chicken eggs!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
I am also not in favor of battery mothers and would not eat a human woman's eggs scrambled with cheese, especially if she were being kept in a coop against her will!. That would violate my vegan beliefs!.
Now in the case of rape, incest or when the life of the mother is in danger, I believe in abortion!. And I would support a chicken's right to choose in these circumstances as well!.
Here is my counter question!. If pro-lifers are not in favor of eating a human woman's eggs, keeping her with 5 other women in a tiny cage and forcing her to give up her eggs at an insane pace while never letting her see sunlight (neocons, I don't mean you - I know you would do this), wouldn't it be sensible to also not eat chicken eggs!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
I don't know; I'm not vegan!. also, most vegans aren't stupid enough to think that eggs are an animal!. The vast majority of eggs aren't fertilized!. No fertilization means no animal!. It's just a reproductive cell, like a single sperm!. This question also presupposes that everyone sees human life as having the same value as the life of any other animal!. For better or for worse, this is usually not the case!. (See my hypothetical at the end!.)
That being said, vegans are usually concerned with the suffering animals experience by being exploited!. In short, they're not down with the fact that people use animals for food/amusement/etc!. Most vegans that I know are pro-choice!. They believe that a woman should be able to decide whether or not she wants to continue a pregnancy!.
The two ideas go together pretty well, actually!. If someone doesn't believe that humans have the right to use animals (their bodies and what they produce) however they want, why would they believe that we have a right to control other humans' bodies and what they produce!?
I would think that it makes more logical sense for someone who is pro-life (assuming that their pro-life stance means that they believe in non-interference in death) to be vegetarian or vegan!. If someone doesn't believe that a woman can end a pregnancy (and/or life) to benefit herself, why would they themselves be comfortable benefiting from the early and unnatural death of other lives!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
That being said, vegans are usually concerned with the suffering animals experience by being exploited!. In short, they're not down with the fact that people use animals for food/amusement/etc!. Most vegans that I know are pro-choice!. They believe that a woman should be able to decide whether or not she wants to continue a pregnancy!.
The two ideas go together pretty well, actually!. If someone doesn't believe that humans have the right to use animals (their bodies and what they produce) however they want, why would they believe that we have a right to control other humans' bodies and what they produce!?
I would think that it makes more logical sense for someone who is pro-life (assuming that their pro-life stance means that they believe in non-interference in death) to be vegetarian or vegan!. If someone doesn't believe that a woman can end a pregnancy (and/or life) to benefit herself, why would they themselves be comfortable benefiting from the early and unnatural death of other lives!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
No, I'm pro-choice!. But I think you misunderstand the reason that vegans don't eat eggs!. For me, it is because of the way the HENS are treated badly in the producing of eggs!. So, really, in both instances, I believe that the life of the mother should be more valued than an unborn!.
also, the eggs that we eat are unfertilized, which is why they aren't going to hatch if you leave them in the fridge too long!. :) But another cruelty of farms is that when eggs are fertilized, if the chick that is born is male, they are literally thrown in dumpsters while the babies are alive since male chickens will not grow up to be able to produce eggs!.
So, I believe that we ought to protect the rights of the living, and that every mother should be allowed to live her own life and make her own choices!. When it comes to hens and women!. Www@FoodAQ@Com
also, the eggs that we eat are unfertilized, which is why they aren't going to hatch if you leave them in the fridge too long!. :) But another cruelty of farms is that when eggs are fertilized, if the chick that is born is male, they are literally thrown in dumpsters while the babies are alive since male chickens will not grow up to be able to produce eggs!.
So, I believe that we ought to protect the rights of the living, and that every mother should be allowed to live her own life and make her own choices!. When it comes to hens and women!. Www@FoodAQ@Com
Those are two totally seperate issues!. I do not eat eggs regardless, they came from an animal and my body has no use for them!.
I am also PRO-CHOICE and for one reason!. A lot of girls who become pregnant are too afraid to come forward and tell their partner, parents, and etc!. They are also ignorant to the fact that there are options out there and places like planned parenthood!. So instead of having a safe abortion they op to get their friends to either jump them or punch them in the stomach to get rid of the baby!. Some girls will even go as far as to drink bleach hoping to kill the embyro!. Others will turn to their grandmothers or older women who do those back alley clandestine abortions w/ wire hangers and alcohol!. So while they are trying to get rid of the baby they wind up seriously harming themselves in the process!. Some get incredibly sick others even die or face serious internal damage!. So the only reason I am pro-choice is because I would rather a girl have a safe place to go and get an abortion than face death herself trying to have a back alley clandestine abortion!.
p!.s!. how many of these pro-life people are willing to adopt the babies these girls have and send to foster care!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
I am also PRO-CHOICE and for one reason!. A lot of girls who become pregnant are too afraid to come forward and tell their partner, parents, and etc!. They are also ignorant to the fact that there are options out there and places like planned parenthood!. So instead of having a safe abortion they op to get their friends to either jump them or punch them in the stomach to get rid of the baby!. Some girls will even go as far as to drink bleach hoping to kill the embyro!. Others will turn to their grandmothers or older women who do those back alley clandestine abortions w/ wire hangers and alcohol!. So while they are trying to get rid of the baby they wind up seriously harming themselves in the process!. Some get incredibly sick others even die or face serious internal damage!. So the only reason I am pro-choice is because I would rather a girl have a safe place to go and get an abortion than face death herself trying to have a back alley clandestine abortion!.
p!.s!. how many of these pro-life people are willing to adopt the babies these girls have and send to foster care!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
To me, the fundamental principle is SUFFERING/happiness!.
Applied to abortion, there is clearly no suffering for the fetus, so that's about the end of the question!. With regards to the mother, if she wants to abort the fetus, then clearly she believes that keeping it would be a net-loss in terms of suffering/happiness!. And who better to make that decision than the mother!?
Applied to eating meat produced by modern factory "farms", there clearly is unfathomable suffering caused to the animals!. Therefore, eating such meat is wrong (unless there is some overwhelmingly overriding factor)!.
It's rather simple and logical really!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Applied to abortion, there is clearly no suffering for the fetus, so that's about the end of the question!. With regards to the mother, if she wants to abort the fetus, then clearly she believes that keeping it would be a net-loss in terms of suffering/happiness!. And who better to make that decision than the mother!?
Applied to eating meat produced by modern factory "farms", there clearly is unfathomable suffering caused to the animals!. Therefore, eating such meat is wrong (unless there is some overwhelmingly overriding factor)!.
It's rather simple and logical really!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
The vast majority of vegans are politically liberal, and as such, tend to be pro choice!.
The reasons vegans don't eat eggs have nothing to do with "considering it an animal" since eggs are not fertilized!.
Vegans don't eat eggs because of health reasons, (cholesterol, fat) the treatment of laying hens, (look up "battery cages") and the cruel methods of disposal of over 90% of male chicks!. (usually suffocation or grinding!.)Www@FoodAQ@Com
The reasons vegans don't eat eggs have nothing to do with "considering it an animal" since eggs are not fertilized!.
Vegans don't eat eggs because of health reasons, (cholesterol, fat) the treatment of laying hens, (look up "battery cages") and the cruel methods of disposal of over 90% of male chicks!. (usually suffocation or grinding!.)Www@FoodAQ@Com
Vegans avoid eggs because they're an animal product, and they want to minimise their contribution to animal suffering and exploitation!. They don't drink milk for the same reason - they don't consider milk to be an animal either!.
You'll find that vegans aren't all of of one mind; on abortion as on any other issue they have diverse views!. Personally I dislike the term 'pro-life' and prefer 'anti-choice'!.
I'm vegan and I'm very much pro-choice!.
In countries where abortion is illegal, women have abortions anyway - dangerous, life threatening and sometimes fatal abortions!. This used to happen in countries where abortion is legal, and still does where it is legal but in reality hard to get!.
It is women without the money to buy safe abortions - something wealthy women have always been able to do, legal abortion or no - who died and continue to die!. I care about their lives so I'm pro-choice!.
I'm old enough to remember the time before abortion was legal in my country!. I remember the whispers about a friend's teenage cousin who died following a botched illegal abortion, and friends par boiling themselves in hot baths to try to induce abortion!. Stories of knitting needles, coat hangers etc aren't just horror stories, they happened and continue to happen!. I think it's ironic that those claiming to be 'pro-life' usually have no thought or care for the lives of women and girls who die in this way
I am strongly in favour women being in control of their own lives and destinies, and part of this is control over their own fertility!. With the best will in the world contraception sometimes fails!.
To the extent that my veganism and my pro-choice stance are related, this is the link: I'm vegan because I choose to minimise my contribution to animal suffering!. I'm pro-choice because I value the lives of women and don't want to see them suffer!.
Keep it legal, keep it safe!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
You'll find that vegans aren't all of of one mind; on abortion as on any other issue they have diverse views!. Personally I dislike the term 'pro-life' and prefer 'anti-choice'!.
I'm vegan and I'm very much pro-choice!.
In countries where abortion is illegal, women have abortions anyway - dangerous, life threatening and sometimes fatal abortions!. This used to happen in countries where abortion is legal, and still does where it is legal but in reality hard to get!.
It is women without the money to buy safe abortions - something wealthy women have always been able to do, legal abortion or no - who died and continue to die!. I care about their lives so I'm pro-choice!.
I'm old enough to remember the time before abortion was legal in my country!. I remember the whispers about a friend's teenage cousin who died following a botched illegal abortion, and friends par boiling themselves in hot baths to try to induce abortion!. Stories of knitting needles, coat hangers etc aren't just horror stories, they happened and continue to happen!. I think it's ironic that those claiming to be 'pro-life' usually have no thought or care for the lives of women and girls who die in this way
I am strongly in favour women being in control of their own lives and destinies, and part of this is control over their own fertility!. With the best will in the world contraception sometimes fails!.
To the extent that my veganism and my pro-choice stance are related, this is the link: I'm vegan because I choose to minimise my contribution to animal suffering!. I'm pro-choice because I value the lives of women and don't want to see them suffer!.
Keep it legal, keep it safe!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
"The reasons vegans don't eat eggs have nothing to do with "considering it an animal" since eggs are not fertilized"
one of your answers!.!.!.!.
Pro choicers JUST admitted that it is a human once the egg is fertalized (conception)
There is no logical reason to kill a human baby, that is why they get soo defensive!. They find themselves in a position where they are forced to look like a hippocrate!.
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one of your answers!.!.!.!.
Pro choicers JUST admitted that it is a human once the egg is fertalized (conception)
There is no logical reason to kill a human baby, that is why they get soo defensive!. They find themselves in a position where they are forced to look like a hippocrate!.
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They are completley seperate!. Vegans don't eat eggs because they don't eat any animal products (even those that do not harm the animals by consuming them, such as eggs and milk)!. Your opinion on abortion is whatever you choose to beleive!. I, however, am pro-choice!.
Interestingly enough, Vegans are usually liberals, and therefore, usaully pro-choice!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Interestingly enough, Vegans are usually liberals, and therefore, usaully pro-choice!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Vegans do not, as a rule, consider eggs "an animal!." We don't eat eggs because of the inhumane conditions under which laying hens are forced to live and labor!.
As for the pro-choice/pro-life debate, you'll find that vegans are individual people with individual opinions on an issue that hasn't anything to do with their dietary/lifestyle choice!.
Personally, I am pro-choice!. I don't eat dairy products because I respect a cow's right to sovereignty over her own body!. Why would I afford any less respect to a human woman!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
As for the pro-choice/pro-life debate, you'll find that vegans are individual people with individual opinions on an issue that hasn't anything to do with their dietary/lifestyle choice!.
Personally, I am pro-choice!. I don't eat dairy products because I respect a cow's right to sovereignty over her own body!. Why would I afford any less respect to a human woman!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
herb_ivore said it beautifully!.
i agree there!. only first trimester abortions am i okay with!.
im also vegan!.!. people bring that up alot, but see, with the animal thing besides what Herb_ivore said, animals aren't here for us to exploit in any way!. eggs aren't because it COULD be a life, it's because they're treated awful!. so that's why!.!.!.they're mean to them and its unnecessary and wrong!. abortion is different!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
i agree there!. only first trimester abortions am i okay with!.
im also vegan!.!. people bring that up alot, but see, with the animal thing besides what Herb_ivore said, animals aren't here for us to exploit in any way!. eggs aren't because it COULD be a life, it's because they're treated awful!. so that's why!.!.!.they're mean to them and its unnecessary and wrong!. abortion is different!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
your position on if the government should allow people to choose for themselves if they want to have abortions should not matter to your deciding to be a (ethical) vegetarian!. It might however weigh on your own decision to keep a child, but that is completely different from limiting the rights of others!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
I'm vegan!. I'm pro-life!.
I think my pro-life stance has more to do with the fact that I'm Catholic (as I was that before becoming vegan)!. But my dietary lifestyle happens to fit well with my religious lifestyle so it all works out in the end!.
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I think my pro-life stance has more to do with the fact that I'm Catholic (as I was that before becoming vegan)!. But my dietary lifestyle happens to fit well with my religious lifestyle so it all works out in the end!.
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I'm a raw vegan, I'm pro-choice in cases of rape, incest and if the mother's life is threatened!. Abortions have been on a decline these recent years thanks to education!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
The eggs we consume aren't fertilized so there is no animal inside!.
Each vegan is an individual with unique beliefs, and pro-life/pro-choice and veganism are separate issues!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Each vegan is an individual with unique beliefs, and pro-life/pro-choice and veganism are separate issues!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
I am a vegan, but I am pro choice!.
I am not against the actual eggs, but I'm against the way they treat the mother hen and how the hen doesn't choose to give its baby up!. Www@FoodAQ@Com
I am not against the actual eggs, but I'm against the way they treat the mother hen and how the hen doesn't choose to give its baby up!. Www@FoodAQ@Com
Of course, and by the same token, as I would not mandate that all people everywhere follow my dietary guidelines, I would not impose my view on any one else in regard to their reproductive rights!.
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I am pro-choice (early-term abortions only) for the following reason!.!.!.I respect a woman's right to choose what's best for her body and her life!. Real life is more important than potential life!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
I'd never abort, but I respect other choices!. I'd never eat meat, but I respect other choices!. To sum it up, CHOICES!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
im personally pro choice, but i know prolife vegans!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
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I'm pro-life regarding myself, pro-choice for everyone else!.
Why!?
I would never have an abortion, no matter what the circumstance, I am a mother even though I got pregnant at a VERY difficult time in my life, and I stuck through and am happy and with a toddler now!. I would never, ever change my mind about it, even if I was raped or even absolutely homeless!.!.!. I would sooner turn to adoption!. I do consider it a life!.
But when it comes to others, I am pro-choice!. Until I walk a mile in someone else's shoes, I can't make a decision that big for them!. Just like I refuse to support legislature that would make vegetarianism mandatory, even though I am obviously super biased and pro-vegetarian!.
I see it as: these are my ethical views (when is a life a life!? how valuable is a human life as a fetus, if I value even the life of a shrimp!?)!. I have a relatively easy, privileged life!. Not everyone shares my ethical beliefs, not everyone believes that it's worth derailing a mother's life, and of course there are always the exceptions: rape, incest, or if some 10 year old girl is pregnant!.!.!. I don't think it's fair for a bunch of stuffy, neo-Conservative white men to pass legislature regarding things they've never lived through, things they could never dream of relating to!. The judgemental looks a pregnant young single woman gets, the lack of accessible health care, the lack of any social programs whatsoever to help a woman get daycare assistance or find work while juggling an infant she never wanted!.
I personally struggled through an absolute hellish maze and still do, trying to find a way to support myself and my baby!. I had a baby with a supportive husband who wanted to see us all pull through it!. I can't imagine doing it as a fourteen year old girl with an abusive boyfriend, or as a nineteen year old heroin addict!.
My life and my choices are mine!. This is something that should stay out of Congress and result up to the woman!. Hell, the woman probably knows best whether she should get an abortion or not, right!? She's the one that will go through the pregnancy, she knows the risks and problems she's facing, she knows best!. It's no secret that unwanted children aboslutely mire our system, they are ritually abused and strung through foster care systems, they are almost always abused by their parents, 95+ percent of people in prisons now were abused or unwanted children statistically!.
So I am pro-life for myself because I CAN MAKE THAT CHOICE, but I will NEVER make that choice for another woman!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Why!?
I would never have an abortion, no matter what the circumstance, I am a mother even though I got pregnant at a VERY difficult time in my life, and I stuck through and am happy and with a toddler now!. I would never, ever change my mind about it, even if I was raped or even absolutely homeless!.!.!. I would sooner turn to adoption!. I do consider it a life!.
But when it comes to others, I am pro-choice!. Until I walk a mile in someone else's shoes, I can't make a decision that big for them!. Just like I refuse to support legislature that would make vegetarianism mandatory, even though I am obviously super biased and pro-vegetarian!.
I see it as: these are my ethical views (when is a life a life!? how valuable is a human life as a fetus, if I value even the life of a shrimp!?)!. I have a relatively easy, privileged life!. Not everyone shares my ethical beliefs, not everyone believes that it's worth derailing a mother's life, and of course there are always the exceptions: rape, incest, or if some 10 year old girl is pregnant!.!.!. I don't think it's fair for a bunch of stuffy, neo-Conservative white men to pass legislature regarding things they've never lived through, things they could never dream of relating to!. The judgemental looks a pregnant young single woman gets, the lack of accessible health care, the lack of any social programs whatsoever to help a woman get daycare assistance or find work while juggling an infant she never wanted!.
I personally struggled through an absolute hellish maze and still do, trying to find a way to support myself and my baby!. I had a baby with a supportive husband who wanted to see us all pull through it!. I can't imagine doing it as a fourteen year old girl with an abusive boyfriend, or as a nineteen year old heroin addict!.
My life and my choices are mine!. This is something that should stay out of Congress and result up to the woman!. Hell, the woman probably knows best whether she should get an abortion or not, right!? She's the one that will go through the pregnancy, she knows the risks and problems she's facing, she knows best!. It's no secret that unwanted children aboslutely mire our system, they are ritually abused and strung through foster care systems, they are almost always abused by their parents, 95+ percent of people in prisons now were abused or unwanted children statistically!.
So I am pro-life for myself because I CAN MAKE THAT CHOICE, but I will NEVER make that choice for another woman!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
HAHA! I ALWAYS HAVE TO PUT A BUNCH OF QUESTION MARKS, I GUESS THATS ANOTHER WAY, LOL! WELL, I AM A VEGAN AND IM PRO-CHOICE!. ALTHOUGH I WOULD HATE TO SEE AN INNOCENT POTENTIAL BABY BEING KILLED, SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS ARE WORSE!. WHEN TEENS GET PREGNANT, I WOULDNT TELL THEM TO HAVE A BABY AT 14 OR 15 YEARS OLD!. THAT BABY WOULD LIVE A LIFE OF HUNGER AND WOULD LIVE IN POVERTY!. ASLO, IF A PROSTITUTE GETS PREGNANT, WOULD YOU REALLY WANT HER TO HAVE A BABY!? SOME CONDITIONS MAKE A DIFFERENCE, BUT IF A WOMEN WITH AN INCOME AND A STEADY JOB GETS PREGNANT AND IS OLD ENOUGH, THERE IS NO REASON FOR HER TO KILL HER BABY!. MY HEART BLEEDS WHEN I SEE A TEEN GETTING AN ABORTION, I KNOW THAT SO MANY OUT THEIR ARE INFERTILE AND BEG TO ADOPT!. GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS! :DWww@FoodAQ@Com
They don't eat the egg because its an animal product, not because its a baby!. They don't eat cheese cause its an animal product!. Get it!?
Whats the 20 character thing!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
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