How should I deal with dumb arguments in the case for eating meat?!
To tell me I am a plant murderer is ridiculous!. Not only do plants NOT actually die when they are harvested (through seasonal cycles they are "resurrected"), they do not have brains or central nervous systems!
I have a few books on the subject, but I am so sick and tired of my unsupportive family, untrained doctor, and rude co-workers!.
I don't ever start these conversations, rather, other people's observations of what I am NOT eating (which happens to be my damn business) are what tend to!.
I guess it would be good to hear advice from real people!Www@FoodAQ@Com
I have a few books on the subject, but I am so sick and tired of my unsupportive family, untrained doctor, and rude co-workers!.
I don't ever start these conversations, rather, other people's observations of what I am NOT eating (which happens to be my damn business) are what tend to!.
I guess it would be good to hear advice from real people!Www@FoodAQ@Com
Answers:
Ask them if they see any difference in cutting a cow's head off and slicing into a head of lettuce!.
If something like this ever comes up I like to use the argument that vegan diets "kill" less plants because we eat the food directly rather than siphoning it through animals to produce meat!.
Over 70% of American cropland is used to raise grains and legumes for animal feed!. Not to mention the Amazon forest being cleared for soy production for the cattle market in North America and Europe and for grazing!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
If something like this ever comes up I like to use the argument that vegan diets "kill" less plants because we eat the food directly rather than siphoning it through animals to produce meat!.
Over 70% of American cropland is used to raise grains and legumes for animal feed!. Not to mention the Amazon forest being cleared for soy production for the cattle market in North America and Europe and for grazing!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
To call me an animal murderer is ridiculous!. And I honestly see no difference between cutting a cows head off and cutting into a head of lettuce!. I'd do it myself!.
Actually no, you kill more!. One head of lettuce could be used to make 1 vegetarian meal!. That vegetarian meal cost one murder!. A cow could be turned into a hundred meals!. Each meat meal cost one percent of one murder!.
And all water usage arguments are irrelevant, as the earth has the same amount of water as it did billions of years ago!.
Sammy, if plants and animals cannot be compared, then non-human animals and humans cannot be compared!.
Pin, we don't have to "justify" anything!. To say that we are wrong for our choice is pretty arrogant!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Actually no, you kill more!. One head of lettuce could be used to make 1 vegetarian meal!. That vegetarian meal cost one murder!. A cow could be turned into a hundred meals!. Each meat meal cost one percent of one murder!.
And all water usage arguments are irrelevant, as the earth has the same amount of water as it did billions of years ago!.
Sammy, if plants and animals cannot be compared, then non-human animals and humans cannot be compared!.
Pin, we don't have to "justify" anything!. To say that we are wrong for our choice is pretty arrogant!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Tell them you hate plants and hope you are making them suffer!. It's not logical but it might get those idiots to shut up for a second!.
I know exactly what you mean about family and co-workers and doctors!. I went through all that too! Just don't let it get to you if you can help it!. Forgive and forget the ignorant comments!. Www@FoodAQ@Com
I know exactly what you mean about family and co-workers and doctors!. I went through all that too! Just don't let it get to you if you can help it!. Forgive and forget the ignorant comments!. Www@FoodAQ@Com
these people are subconsiously trying to justify their eating habits!. they have to shoot you down in flames to prove that they are right to murder and torture animals to satisfy their needs!. what we, as vegetarians, eat is our business!. we choose to not eat animals!. i am very happy with my diet!. im fit!. i am not fat!. ignore them !. they are wrong !. you are right!. eat what you like!. Www@FoodAQ@Com
Maybe you should cite the benefits to the environment of a vegetarian diet ie: rearing animals for meat requires more land and resources and more carbon dioxide and methane is produced than in growing crops!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
I think alot of people are just stupid, and trying to explain being a vegan will just go straight over their heads!. Its never the vegetarians who have the problem with meat eaters, its the other way round!. weird!Www@FoodAQ@Com
If it's as you say your damn business, then why are you going into everything on this public forum!. We are all real people with different views!.
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You could always throw back, "Look who's killing the earth!. Not me!"
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I don't eat anything that can look me in the eye!.
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My dad winds me up by saying "what about that poor tomato you're about to eat, it's not fair on it!"!. (This is usually when we're at dinner with friends who are avid meat eaters)!. I reply with "well you wouldn't keep a tomato in a cage, feed it and pet it like a rabbit would you!?!"!. I'm lucky he's only messing around when he says that
I think that's my biggest annoyance when people learn i'm vegetarian!.!. plants and animals can't be compared! As if you'd keep a lettuce as a pet over a cow or something!?!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
I think that's my biggest annoyance when people learn i'm vegetarian!.!. plants and animals can't be compared! As if you'd keep a lettuce as a pet over a cow or something!?!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
When you argue with meat eaters you have to make sure that you are not the one who pushed them to fight you!.
But when they attack your beliefs just realize that they only know what they've been told their whole lives!. You must use logic, science, and facts to destroy their argument!. Then they will leave you alone!.
Meat only provides heme Iron which is a better absorbed Iron!. Every thing else that meat provides it provided by no meat foods, including Iron!.
Fact you do not need meat!.
Two Doctors should shut up about diets!. No personal beef with them but doctors are not trained and educated in diets and nutrition as much as they should be!. They'll know only a little compared with the nutritional info out there!.
Where can i find bad cholesterol from besides animal products!? Can they answer!?
Why are humans the only animal on this Earth that have to cook their meat in order to consume it!? Why do humans drink milk when adults!? Humans are the only animal on the planet that will actually drink another species milk after weening age!.
This is to make them think!.
Then if they come up with the answer, "Because we can!!!"!. Just giggle and ask "We can have sex with animals, should we!?"Www@FoodAQ@Com
But when they attack your beliefs just realize that they only know what they've been told their whole lives!. You must use logic, science, and facts to destroy their argument!. Then they will leave you alone!.
Meat only provides heme Iron which is a better absorbed Iron!. Every thing else that meat provides it provided by no meat foods, including Iron!.
Fact you do not need meat!.
Two Doctors should shut up about diets!. No personal beef with them but doctors are not trained and educated in diets and nutrition as much as they should be!. They'll know only a little compared with the nutritional info out there!.
Where can i find bad cholesterol from besides animal products!? Can they answer!?
Why are humans the only animal on this Earth that have to cook their meat in order to consume it!? Why do humans drink milk when adults!? Humans are the only animal on the planet that will actually drink another species milk after weening age!.
This is to make them think!.
Then if they come up with the answer, "Because we can!!!"!. Just giggle and ask "We can have sex with animals, should we!?"Www@FoodAQ@Com