A question about surgery involving the use of animal parts?!
Your surgeon has told you that your need heart valve surgery!. Your health rules out the use of a prosthetic valve and there are no human valves available at this time!. Valves taken from pig, or cow will give you about another 20 years!.
I asked this because I'm a vegetarian in medical school!. Www@FoodAQ@Com
I asked this because I'm a vegetarian in medical school!. Www@FoodAQ@Com
Answers:
I think you'll find that most if not all vegetarians, even vegans, would not object to this if it would directly save a human life!. Most of the issues people have with these things is because the life saving is theoretical!. Anyone that says they'd turn it down is either in denial, or has completely lost touch with reality!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
I often wonder the same thing!.
It annoys me that so many vegans are condescending towards omnivores and vegetarians because we "condone animal cruelty" and yet they don't think twice about popping painkillers or would accept lifesaving treatment even though the animals in health laboratories suffer more inhumane treatment than any dairy cow!.
Would I consent to treatment that involved animal parts or animal testing!? No, I wouldn't!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
It annoys me that so many vegans are condescending towards omnivores and vegetarians because we "condone animal cruelty" and yet they don't think twice about popping painkillers or would accept lifesaving treatment even though the animals in health laboratories suffer more inhumane treatment than any dairy cow!.
Would I consent to treatment that involved animal parts or animal testing!? No, I wouldn't!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
I'd hope they'd agree to the surgery!. as a med student can you please validate what i say when vegetarianism/vegan-ism isn't necessarily the best life style for everyone!.
BTW i am the biggest animal lover you would ever meet, but if i don't eat meat i will die!. doesn't make me any less of a caring person, bloody hell i've got a goldfish i've had for fourteen years and i had a cat that passed in march and i cried more than i ever have done!. i hate animal cruelty (obviously) and i will only eat free range, grass fed organic meats
ashley so you condole murder of another human being over that of an animal!? where the f*ck is the line!?
most homeless ppl aren't there by choice and maybe we should just kill sick f*ckers like you who believe **** like thatWww@FoodAQ@Com
BTW i am the biggest animal lover you would ever meet, but if i don't eat meat i will die!. doesn't make me any less of a caring person, bloody hell i've got a goldfish i've had for fourteen years and i had a cat that passed in march and i cried more than i ever have done!. i hate animal cruelty (obviously) and i will only eat free range, grass fed organic meats
ashley so you condole murder of another human being over that of an animal!? where the f*ck is the line!?
most homeless ppl aren't there by choice and maybe we should just kill sick f*ckers like you who believe **** like thatWww@FoodAQ@Com
Perhaps my answer would rather "sarcastic" than addressing the "root" of all cause!.
“ For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other!. Indeed, he who sows the seed of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love “ Pythagoras, mathematician, 500BC
For centuries, oppressors have justified exploitation and abuse of their "victims" for economics, social and scietific reasons!. Eventually most societies have come to understand that there are no valid justification for slavery!. Today, as we continue to fight against social injustice and discrimination, the same excuse used throughout history to justify the oppression of human are now being used to justify the oppression of animals!.
There is still slavery in the world!. There is still a valuing of human beings according to their race or class or gender or culture or color or sexuality!. Part of the reason for this cutting off empathy is the anesthetizing of our OWN senses to the suffering of animals!. Once we grow callous, we cannot feel fully for anyone-not even for ourselves!.
We obviously against “Discrimination” and Nazi's experiments on innocent people WAS wrong!.!.!.
http://www!.auschwitz!.dk/doctors!.htm
Dear "Kim N", present this slide in your class, and let them to make DECISION!. Thanks
http://d2d34!.usaupload!.net/hgo6uaphopy/1!.!.!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
“ For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other!. Indeed, he who sows the seed of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love “ Pythagoras, mathematician, 500BC
For centuries, oppressors have justified exploitation and abuse of their "victims" for economics, social and scietific reasons!. Eventually most societies have come to understand that there are no valid justification for slavery!. Today, as we continue to fight against social injustice and discrimination, the same excuse used throughout history to justify the oppression of human are now being used to justify the oppression of animals!.
There is still slavery in the world!. There is still a valuing of human beings according to their race or class or gender or culture or color or sexuality!. Part of the reason for this cutting off empathy is the anesthetizing of our OWN senses to the suffering of animals!. Once we grow callous, we cannot feel fully for anyone-not even for ourselves!.
We obviously against “Discrimination” and Nazi's experiments on innocent people WAS wrong!.!.!.
http://www!.auschwitz!.dk/doctors!.htm
Dear "Kim N", present this slide in your class, and let them to make DECISION!. Thanks
http://d2d34!.usaupload!.net/hgo6uaphopy/1!.!.!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
I'd consider the fact that the pig was killed for it's meat, not the heart valve, and get the surgery!.
BTW: Most heart valve problems are genetic, so vegans can develope this problem!. Some trolls, like Christine, are just to ignorent to know this!. Www@FoodAQ@Com
BTW: Most heart valve problems are genetic, so vegans can develope this problem!. Some trolls, like Christine, are just to ignorent to know this!. Www@FoodAQ@Com
My reasons for being vegan go beyond how long I may live!. Showing compassion in how I live my life is how I choose to live my life; that’s my reason for being vegan!. I’m not going to condone the practice of taking another creature’s life just to extend my own!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
I don't think anyone would seriously object to using an animal to directly save a human life!. Most vegetarians and vegans don't judge people for eating meat when it truly is their only source of adequate fat and protein!. Www@FoodAQ@Com
it's your decision!.
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as an inhabitant of this planet, if one will agree to use a part of a plant a part of an animal could be used as well!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
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as an inhabitant of this planet, if one will agree to use a part of a plant a part of an animal could be used as well!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
My goodness! You have just alerted me to the fact that if I am ever in this situation I'd better make sure my surgeon isn't a vegetarian! It never occurred to me before!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
just find a homeless person and kill them, it's so much better than killing an innocent animalWww@FoodAQ@Com
What exactly is your question!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
This is a very unlikely scenario for us vegans/fruitarians, especially when you consider that our diets are devoid of cholesterol and trans fats which would call for a heart surgery!. In the unlikely event that this would happen (ie, if I was a milk sucking vegetarian), then I would choose death!.Www@FoodAQ@Com