Why do some people think its weird to drink milk?!
I've heard a lot about how it's "unnatural" and "strange" to drink the milk of another species!.
And I started thinking about this!. Milk is just a nutrient storage and delivery system!. Drinking milk is probably one of the best things a person could do for themselves, since its one of the few foods that was actually meant to be eaten!.
You look at almost any fruit or vegetable, spice, herb, pretty much any plant that we eat, and you'll see a living organism with nutrient stores!. But most of these plants don't grow to be eaten!. They aren't specifically designed to be consumed!. What would be the evolutionary purpose in that!? The point is to carry on the genes, not become so tasty that other life forms could wipe you out!.
I'm not saying that vegetables are gonna go extinct, I'm just saying that the individual vegetable is coded for self preservation, not edibility!.
So what we're really doing when we eat a plant is the same thing as drinking milk, or consuming any dairy for that matter!. We're using the nutritional stores of another species for our own preservation and growth!.
Or at least that's my thought on the matter!. I'd be interested to see what others think!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
And I started thinking about this!. Milk is just a nutrient storage and delivery system!. Drinking milk is probably one of the best things a person could do for themselves, since its one of the few foods that was actually meant to be eaten!.
You look at almost any fruit or vegetable, spice, herb, pretty much any plant that we eat, and you'll see a living organism with nutrient stores!. But most of these plants don't grow to be eaten!. They aren't specifically designed to be consumed!. What would be the evolutionary purpose in that!? The point is to carry on the genes, not become so tasty that other life forms could wipe you out!.
I'm not saying that vegetables are gonna go extinct, I'm just saying that the individual vegetable is coded for self preservation, not edibility!.
So what we're really doing when we eat a plant is the same thing as drinking milk, or consuming any dairy for that matter!. We're using the nutritional stores of another species for our own preservation and growth!.
Or at least that's my thought on the matter!. I'd be interested to see what others think!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Answers:
Why do people think anything is weird!? Because they just do!. Anyone who says it's not "natural" is being two faced!. Using a computer isn't natural either!. Neither are wearing clothes, living in a multi bedroom house, driving a car on paved roads, going to school etc etc etc!. Fact is people have been drinking milk, goat, cow, camel etc for more than 10,000 years!. It is found to be healthy for humans!. If you think it's weird, fine, then don't drink it!. Given the fact that vegetarians are the minority and thus considered weird in that context, should we also say it should be stopped!?
It is deceptive to say cows can live up to 20 years!. Sure and humans can live up to 120 years too!. How many 120 year old humans do you know!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
It is deceptive to say cows can live up to 20 years!. Sure and humans can live up to 120 years too!. How many 120 year old humans do you know!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
I agree up to a point!. Most plants produce a fruit or seed to be eaten and/or processed in some way so the seeds will be deposited someplace else by an animal!. And if we were not intended to eat meat then there would not be predators on the planet but we do need to work on the treatment of the animals we consume!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
I have people say "Gross!" if I tell them that I drink milk with my meals!. I love it!. It's just those hippie vegans that are trying to pawn their lifestyles upon unwilling others just like religious extremists!.
I think that many other people are just grossed out by the fact that milk is a bodily fluid!. I just don't think about it that way!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
I think that many other people are just grossed out by the fact that milk is a bodily fluid!. I just don't think about it that way!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Ever see a baby analyze the nutritive properties of milk!?
Ever see a baby build a building!?
Ever see a baby write a book!?
Ever see a baby hold a conversation!?
Ever see a baby do anything that requires more brain capacity than
"Chew!.!.!.Chew!.!.!.!.poop!.!.!.!.Chew!.!.!.!."!?
I doubt it!. If you really think it is okay to discriminate based on intelligence you should apply this to humans as well; humans are not a homogenous group!. If I am smarter than you, should I be able to do whatever I want with you!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
Ever see a baby build a building!?
Ever see a baby write a book!?
Ever see a baby hold a conversation!?
Ever see a baby do anything that requires more brain capacity than
"Chew!.!.!.Chew!.!.!.!.poop!.!.!.!.Chew!.!.!.!."!?
I doubt it!. If you really think it is okay to discriminate based on intelligence you should apply this to humans as well; humans are not a homogenous group!. If I am smarter than you, should I be able to do whatever I want with you!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
There is a reason why people are lactose-intolerant!. Cow milk is not for people! It's not even for adult cows!. Humans were naturally supposed to drink milk only from their own species when they are babies!. How do you not see that drinking cow milk at an adult age is weird!!?!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
I can see where people are coming from when they say its weird to drink milk!. Its supposed to be for the calfs!. But I love milk!. Unfortunately though, I'm lactose intolerant and definately working on cutting it right out of my diet - but slowly!Www@FoodAQ@Com
I love to drink milk, but some cultures do think it is weird or gross!. Many people are lactose intolerant, so they may think that drinking milk is weird, in large part because it makes them sick!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
They don't want to do it, so nobody should do it!. They wish to be the standard for the world!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Ever seen a cow drinking from a lactating woman's breasts!?
edit response: it's not an argument against it!.!.!. it's a reason why people think it's weird or strange-- which if you'll recall was your question!. It's seen by many as just as weird for a cow to drink from a woman's breasts as it is for a human to drink milk meant for baby cows from a cow's teat!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
edit response: it's not an argument against it!.!.!. it's a reason why people think it's weird or strange-- which if you'll recall was your question!. It's seen by many as just as weird for a cow to drink from a woman's breasts as it is for a human to drink milk meant for baby cows from a cow's teat!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Cows Milk is for baby cows
scottishguy!.!.!. your wrong!. you should never give cats milk from a cow!. cows milk is bad for a cat's stomach DUH!Www@FoodAQ@Com
scottishguy!.!.!. your wrong!. you should never give cats milk from a cow!. cows milk is bad for a cat's stomach DUH!Www@FoodAQ@Com
I disagree with the first person about meat but agree about plants and seeds!. Maybe there are predators on the planet so that we can make a choice, wether it be a good or bad one!. Maybe thats the test right there!. Maybe we only have 1 size of carnivore teeth and the rest all herbivore, because if they were all herbivore, we wouldnt be able to eat meat!.!.!.we must be able to eat meat so that we can be tested, to see if we make the right or wrong choice!. If we only had herbivore teeth, we would not be eating meat because we would be unable, not because we think its wrong!. Japan has the highest life expectancy out of all the large countries!. They are right near China, but China has one of the lowest!. Reason being, Japanese diet consists of very little red meat, mostly fish instead!. China diet consists of mostly red meat, especially pork!. They have already proven that cows milk and red meat is unhealthy for humans and the protein and calcium can come from other sources such as whey, spinach and oranges!.!.!.!.and other life forms wouldnt wipe out plants, we can always grow more!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Are you a dairy industry rep in disguise!?
Mammals have to be pregnant to produce milk!. They do so to feed and nourish their babies!. Once the child (of any species) is old enough, mom stops producing milk, and the child stops producing the enzymes necessary to break down the milk sugar!. Then the child eats actual food--plants of the animal is an herbivore, animals if the animal is a carnivore!. Mammals' milk is designed for rapid weight gain to bring a small baby to a sizeable "toddler," so to speak!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Mammals have to be pregnant to produce milk!. They do so to feed and nourish their babies!. Once the child (of any species) is old enough, mom stops producing milk, and the child stops producing the enzymes necessary to break down the milk sugar!. Then the child eats actual food--plants of the animal is an herbivore, animals if the animal is a carnivore!. Mammals' milk is designed for rapid weight gain to bring a small baby to a sizeable "toddler," so to speak!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Well, I don't think it's insanely bizarre, but it's still a bit strange!. I do eat dairy products and such, but I'm just put off by the taste of milk!. I don't like how it makes my throat all phlegmy!. That's just sort of disgusting!. I really don't think we are meant to drink it, or else our mothers would continue to produce milk!. Why drink the milk of another animal when we get our own when we are babies!? I'm not against it!. I'm just giving you a reason behind why some people feel that it's silly!. Which I do, but I eat dairy anyway!. HeheWww@FoodAQ@Com
I think you need to change your screen Id, really, i do!.
It doesn't take much research to figure out how the milk industry works!. I think you should go and do that before deciding milk is "one of the best things a person could do for themselves"
If you actually think an analogy between a carrot and a dairy cow is useful then i dont' really see any point in trynig to discuss it, honestly, this is the strangest most simplistic analogy i've seen in many a year, and i've seen a few shockers!.
If your analogy is correct, and Bovine milk is just a vehicle for nutrients, am i right in thinking you think its a great idea to drink rats milk !?
edit: Sorry, i find it impossble to seperate morality from convinience!. I can't just say "milk is good for you" and ignore the facts of how you get it!.
Why are you asking my to come up with an analogy for a comparison i think is stupid, how would that work !?
In the USA and some parts of Australiasia they use a hormone growth agent called recombinant bovine somatotropin!. Its brand name is POSILAC? and its made by Monsanto!. This increases milk yield and beef growth!. This is a synthetic hormone!. Its banned in the EU since 1988 because test show it ends up in consumer milk
There are many more facts like that if you'd care to look for them!.
Sounds like a great product to me!.
looking at your reply to "answerer" is seems you just don't get it!.!.!.!.You cannot seperate the way a product is obtained by how good it is for you!. If human blood were found to be great, would you advocate mass slaughter of humans !?
Seperating yourself from the moral aspect is burying your head in the sand and not taking responsibiltiy for the actions carried out in your name!.
perhaps you should research these topics !?
Artificial incemination every year
Cows would naturally calve every 2-3 years!. Dairy farms artificially inceminate them every 11 months!. This causes excessive stress on the cows body, increses the chance of prolapse and generally "wears them out" in a few years, rather than a natural 20 years!.
Protein enriched feed
The feed they are given is enriched with artificial growth foods!. these are generally made with cattle meat protiens!.
Artificial incemination every year
Cows would naturally calve every 2-3 years!. Dairy farms artificially inceminate them every 11 months!. This causes excessive stress on the cows body, increses the chance of prolapse and generally "wears them out" in a few years, rather than a natural 20 years!.
Protein enriched feed
The feed they are given is enriched with artificial growth foods!. these are generally made with cattle meat protiens!.
In the USA and some parts of Australiasia they use a hormone growth agent called recombinant bovine somatotropin!. Its brand name is POSILAC? and its made by Monsanto!. This increases milk yield and beef growth!. This is a synthetic hormone!. Its banned in the EU since 1988
The main mechanism these hormones work is by re-directing dietry nutrients from peripheral body tissue to mammary glands!. effectively, they are slowly killing the cow!.
70% of US cattle are injected with this growth hormone ( 2007 stats ) that the majority of the world will not entertain because they believe its too dangerous!.
Bribe/feed caged carousels
These suck!. They are large rotating carousels where the cows are caged in a space where they cannot move!. They have "black boxes" on thier legs which communicate with the main operating computer!. They are fed just the right amount of food depending on how much milk they gave yesterday!. They have added growth food if thier production drops
One person can milk about 400 cattle on a carousel so there is no time for checking the animals health - they just milk them dry and kick them out!.
killing bulls, excess calves and free martins at 1 week old
All bulls are killed at 1 week old, although some farms iin the UK started ( in 2006 ) shipping them to Continental Europe for veal again!. They do not keep any back for breeding as they bring in new blood lines!. In the UK we don't use dairy bull calves for veal anymore in country!. They are either killed, or shipped out!. Bull calves go to make low quality leather products such as cheap sofas!.
They kill all free martins as there is a good chance they will be barren!.
Strangly, they feed these animals with colostrum at birth to keep them alive, but then kill them a week later!.
excess feeding to produce 60 lites of milk per day
The growth food is all designed to produce excess milk!. Cows are naturally designed to produce about 15 litres!. The european targets for 2009 are set at 90 litres, i don't think it need me to tell you if this is heading the right or wrong direction!.
intensive rearing means low husbandry checks
As mentioned above, most automatic dairies have one milkmaid per session, thats it!. I know a dairy farm with 1200 cattle and 3 employees!. Tell me how they can ever check the cattle!.!.!.!.
removing calves from mothers after colostrum feed
This is stressful, cows bawl for weeks for thier young, calling them to be fed!. Obviously the calf cannot "run to mom" because its in dog food by now!.
killing the cow at 7 years old
Cows can naturally live to 20 years old!. Production dairy cows are killed after 4-6 births so are never kept after 7 years old!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
It doesn't take much research to figure out how the milk industry works!. I think you should go and do that before deciding milk is "one of the best things a person could do for themselves"
If you actually think an analogy between a carrot and a dairy cow is useful then i dont' really see any point in trynig to discuss it, honestly, this is the strangest most simplistic analogy i've seen in many a year, and i've seen a few shockers!.
If your analogy is correct, and Bovine milk is just a vehicle for nutrients, am i right in thinking you think its a great idea to drink rats milk !?
edit: Sorry, i find it impossble to seperate morality from convinience!. I can't just say "milk is good for you" and ignore the facts of how you get it!.
Why are you asking my to come up with an analogy for a comparison i think is stupid, how would that work !?
In the USA and some parts of Australiasia they use a hormone growth agent called recombinant bovine somatotropin!. Its brand name is POSILAC? and its made by Monsanto!. This increases milk yield and beef growth!. This is a synthetic hormone!. Its banned in the EU since 1988 because test show it ends up in consumer milk
There are many more facts like that if you'd care to look for them!.
Sounds like a great product to me!.
looking at your reply to "answerer" is seems you just don't get it!.!.!.!.You cannot seperate the way a product is obtained by how good it is for you!. If human blood were found to be great, would you advocate mass slaughter of humans !?
Seperating yourself from the moral aspect is burying your head in the sand and not taking responsibiltiy for the actions carried out in your name!.
perhaps you should research these topics !?
Artificial incemination every year
Cows would naturally calve every 2-3 years!. Dairy farms artificially inceminate them every 11 months!. This causes excessive stress on the cows body, increses the chance of prolapse and generally "wears them out" in a few years, rather than a natural 20 years!.
Protein enriched feed
The feed they are given is enriched with artificial growth foods!. these are generally made with cattle meat protiens!.
Artificial incemination every year
Cows would naturally calve every 2-3 years!. Dairy farms artificially inceminate them every 11 months!. This causes excessive stress on the cows body, increses the chance of prolapse and generally "wears them out" in a few years, rather than a natural 20 years!.
Protein enriched feed
The feed they are given is enriched with artificial growth foods!. these are generally made with cattle meat protiens!.
In the USA and some parts of Australiasia they use a hormone growth agent called recombinant bovine somatotropin!. Its brand name is POSILAC? and its made by Monsanto!. This increases milk yield and beef growth!. This is a synthetic hormone!. Its banned in the EU since 1988
The main mechanism these hormones work is by re-directing dietry nutrients from peripheral body tissue to mammary glands!. effectively, they are slowly killing the cow!.
70% of US cattle are injected with this growth hormone ( 2007 stats ) that the majority of the world will not entertain because they believe its too dangerous!.
Bribe/feed caged carousels
These suck!. They are large rotating carousels where the cows are caged in a space where they cannot move!. They have "black boxes" on thier legs which communicate with the main operating computer!. They are fed just the right amount of food depending on how much milk they gave yesterday!. They have added growth food if thier production drops
One person can milk about 400 cattle on a carousel so there is no time for checking the animals health - they just milk them dry and kick them out!.
killing bulls, excess calves and free martins at 1 week old
All bulls are killed at 1 week old, although some farms iin the UK started ( in 2006 ) shipping them to Continental Europe for veal again!. They do not keep any back for breeding as they bring in new blood lines!. In the UK we don't use dairy bull calves for veal anymore in country!. They are either killed, or shipped out!. Bull calves go to make low quality leather products such as cheap sofas!.
They kill all free martins as there is a good chance they will be barren!.
Strangly, they feed these animals with colostrum at birth to keep them alive, but then kill them a week later!.
excess feeding to produce 60 lites of milk per day
The growth food is all designed to produce excess milk!. Cows are naturally designed to produce about 15 litres!. The european targets for 2009 are set at 90 litres, i don't think it need me to tell you if this is heading the right or wrong direction!.
intensive rearing means low husbandry checks
As mentioned above, most automatic dairies have one milkmaid per session, thats it!. I know a dairy farm with 1200 cattle and 3 employees!. Tell me how they can ever check the cattle!.!.!.!.
removing calves from mothers after colostrum feed
This is stressful, cows bawl for weeks for thier young, calling them to be fed!. Obviously the calf cannot "run to mom" because its in dog food by now!.
killing the cow at 7 years old
Cows can naturally live to 20 years old!. Production dairy cows are killed after 4-6 births so are never kept after 7 years old!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
nutritionally speaking, humans are unable to properly digest or utilize anything contained in cow milk which actually depletes calcium stores from the body!.!.!.!.
out on the prairie and covered wagon days the cow was a farm animal that was sort of the tractor!.!.!.dieing during child birth occurred!.!.!.the father had only the farm cow milk to keep that child alive!.!.!.!.
was ok in a pinch to give the child milk or watch him starve to death, but to have the whole country do such is very unhealthy and strange!.!.!.
we grew up on a farm and do not consume dairy or meat!.!.!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
out on the prairie and covered wagon days the cow was a farm animal that was sort of the tractor!.!.!.dieing during child birth occurred!.!.!.the father had only the farm cow milk to keep that child alive!.!.!.!.
was ok in a pinch to give the child milk or watch him starve to death, but to have the whole country do such is very unhealthy and strange!.!.!.
we grew up on a farm and do not consume dairy or meat!.!.!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Here is where "unnatural" and "Strange" comes in to drinking an animals milk!.!.!.U r correct when u say that it is a food that is "meant" to be eaten!.!.but incorrect when u assume that we as humans are the ones it was meant for!.!.the milk that our human mothers produce is meant for us as humans!.!.and more specifically your mother's milk is better for u than for any other baby!.!.now a cow's milk is meant for their calf!.!.that is also why your assumption that it is a healthy thing for us humans to drink is wrong!.!.milk from a mother of any species is meant to grow their child very quickly!.!.that is why humans milk is extremely nutritious for babies!.!.!.and a cows milk is very high in nutrients that really aren't good for us!.!.think about it!.!.it is meant to grow a calf that already starts off at 70-100 lbs at least double it's weight in a short period of time!.!.!.we humans are also the only species that drink another species milk!.!.!.I think that says something too!.!.!.
Of course u can find proof for any argument!.!.but there are plenty of studies out there that show that milk is not good for us at all!.!.yes including whey!.!.!.any diary product actually!.!.MANY of the studies that "prove" dairy is good for us are funded by the dairy industry!.!.it's best to look at who is funding what before u decide the reliability of the results!.!.!.factory farming is a very profitable business that comes at the expense of all of us
also there is a flaw in your argument that plants aren't meant to be eaten!.!.some plants are helped by being eaten!.!.when animals eat them then poop they help promote a larger area where that plant species will grow!.!.!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Of course u can find proof for any argument!.!.but there are plenty of studies out there that show that milk is not good for us at all!.!.yes including whey!.!.!.any diary product actually!.!.MANY of the studies that "prove" dairy is good for us are funded by the dairy industry!.!.it's best to look at who is funding what before u decide the reliability of the results!.!.!.factory farming is a very profitable business that comes at the expense of all of us
also there is a flaw in your argument that plants aren't meant to be eaten!.!.some plants are helped by being eaten!.!.when animals eat them then poop they help promote a larger area where that plant species will grow!.!.!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
There are many farms that treat their dairy cows with great care!. Milk is nutritious, and because we humans, over time, figured out how to get the milk out of the cow, sheep, goat, soy bean, etc!.!.!.makes us all the more adaptable!. Milk is good for you!.!.!.plentiful, and tasty!. Which is better for you!.!.!.milk or soda!. Good postWww@FoodAQ@Com
exaclt they say its not natural!.!.!.hello we fly in planes!.!.!.how natural is that!.!.!.!.give a cat cows milk and it will happily drink it
And alot of vegetables dont get eaten to spread their seeds but veggies dont mind eating them so i dont see the problem in drinking milk!.!.!.it has nutrients after allWww@FoodAQ@Com
And alot of vegetables dont get eaten to spread their seeds but veggies dont mind eating them so i dont see the problem in drinking milk!.!.!.it has nutrients after allWww@FoodAQ@Com