Peta and their nut job leader?!
Last night out of sheer boredom I watched a documentary on PETA!. I thought it could provide me with a good laugh and of course it did!. However what blew my mind away was how insane their main leader Ingrid is!. She got a divorce because she decided she didn't want to be bothered!. She got sterilized at 22 because she don't believe in having kids!. She refuses to have belongings because it clutters her house and she is an atheist!
My question is this!.!.!. How can an Atheist lead PETA!? If your whole belief system says there is no point to this life and when you die you just die, how can you lead an organization that supposedly saves lives!?
After reviewing the tatics of PETA and there nonsensical demonstrations isn't it clear that Ingrid is really hiding behind a cause in order to exercise her need for attention and anarchist beliefs!? It certainly isn't about the well fare of animals!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
My question is this!.!.!. How can an Atheist lead PETA!? If your whole belief system says there is no point to this life and when you die you just die, how can you lead an organization that supposedly saves lives!?
After reviewing the tatics of PETA and there nonsensical demonstrations isn't it clear that Ingrid is really hiding behind a cause in order to exercise her need for attention and anarchist beliefs!? It certainly isn't about the well fare of animals!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
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Someone is bound to post the link to petakillsanimals!.com
well!.!.!.!.no idea whether that's true or not, but as a vegan I can tell you they are truly hypocritical animal hating bastards!.
They have an agenda and no matter who it hurt(cough cough other vegans!!) they want to get it done!.
They do not care if they are stereotyping all other vegans like them, or that they run an animal shelter with a surprisingly high kill rate!. Did you know there leader says they could turn into a no kill shelter any time they want!?
If they truly loved animals AND that statement was true they already would have!
also, Ingrid is a diabetic!. She takes insulin, insulin is tested on animals, yet PETA protests animal testing for breast cancer!. If Ingrid had breast cancer, she would not have peta doing that!
They also believe in the total extinction of all pitbull! Who thinks that! I luv pitbulls!!Www@FoodAQ@Com
well!.!.!.!.no idea whether that's true or not, but as a vegan I can tell you they are truly hypocritical animal hating bastards!.
They have an agenda and no matter who it hurt(cough cough other vegans!!) they want to get it done!.
They do not care if they are stereotyping all other vegans like them, or that they run an animal shelter with a surprisingly high kill rate!. Did you know there leader says they could turn into a no kill shelter any time they want!?
If they truly loved animals AND that statement was true they already would have!
also, Ingrid is a diabetic!. She takes insulin, insulin is tested on animals, yet PETA protests animal testing for breast cancer!. If Ingrid had breast cancer, she would not have peta doing that!
They also believe in the total extinction of all pitbull! Who thinks that! I luv pitbulls!!Www@FoodAQ@Com
I think you need to ask another question in the Religion & Spirituality section to get a better understanding of atheism!. If you think that atheism is simply a belief system that "says there is no point to this life and when you die you just die", then you are clearly ignorant about atheism, and you need to do more research on the subject before any intelligent person can take your question seriously!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
PETA is crazy!. However, atheists do have beliefs and morals like other people!. Some religions don't confront an after life because they feel it is more important to focus on your time on earth (in the present)!.
I don't know much about this Ingrid woman who runs PETA, but she obviously has some type of mental disorder!. She sounds very self destructive and extreme (like the Nazis or terrorists)!. Give people with those types of problems a place of power and things can get screwed up!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
I don't know much about this Ingrid woman who runs PETA, but she obviously has some type of mental disorder!. She sounds very self destructive and extreme (like the Nazis or terrorists)!. Give people with those types of problems a place of power and things can get screwed up!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Are you serious!? Of course you can be atheist and support animal rights! It is about the life we HAVE, not the life we hope we might have after this one!. So yes, saving animals lives, and protecting their well being while they are ALIVE is of course important!.
Your post makes no sense to me at all!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Your post makes no sense to me at all!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Morality and religion aren't exclusive!.!.!.
Is it not possible to value life without needing the promise of eternal rewards!? I think it is far more selfless to live that way than to live your life in a manner that is good simply because you want something ("Paradise") when you die!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Is it not possible to value life without needing the promise of eternal rewards!? I think it is far more selfless to live that way than to live your life in a manner that is good simply because you want something ("Paradise") when you die!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
You are very ignorant, judgemental, and close minded!. Even if you don't agree with someone's beliefs, you should atleast respect them and be Christian towards them!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
This coming from someone who lets an invisible friend run his life!. I think you are the one who is crazy!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
I agree 100%!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
I don't support PETA, but atheists don't believe there is no point to this life!. That's absurd!. "Saving lives" doesn't have to mean saving them from burning eternally or whatever!. It could mean saving them from dieing prematurely!. Vegetarianism is not at all related to religion (unless, of course, you are one because of your religion)!.
And I highly doubt that PETA was created to get attention and exercise anarchist beliefs!. Though they are obnoxious and insane, let's have our fingers crossed that they really are at least trying to do a good thing for animals!.
There are also crazier things to do than not like to possessions, get divorced, be an atheist, or not want to have kids!. Take for example something else Ingrid Newkirk has done!. She requested to have her flesh made into "Newkirk Nuggets" in her will, if I recall!. There were others too, I believe her feet are to be made into umbrella stands!. Now that's weird!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
And I highly doubt that PETA was created to get attention and exercise anarchist beliefs!. Though they are obnoxious and insane, let's have our fingers crossed that they really are at least trying to do a good thing for animals!.
There are also crazier things to do than not like to possessions, get divorced, be an atheist, or not want to have kids!. Take for example something else Ingrid Newkirk has done!. She requested to have her flesh made into "Newkirk Nuggets" in her will, if I recall!. There were others too, I believe her feet are to be made into umbrella stands!. Now that's weird!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
I have no time for PETA, but can't let your assumptions about atheism pass without comment!.
Atheists don't believe there is 'no point to life'!. I am an atheist and a lifelong political activist!. Much of my life has been dedicated to trying to change the world for the better, not just for myself, not just for the people living now but for the future too!.
My motivation has been love of humankind, hatred of injustice and a deep belief in the essential goodness and unselfishness of human beings!. The 'point to this life' is to do what good you can, to help where you can, to work to change that which is wrong!.
Unlike you, I am not motivated by either hope for reward or fear of punishment!. Yes, I belive that when you die you just die, and that there isn't an afterlife!.
also unlike you though, I am respectful of others' beliefs and don't jeer at believers without provocation, just because they are different from me!. Personally I think it's rather child-like and shallow to be 'good' simply because you believe there's a reward for it later, but that's your choice!.
My activism has been for human rights, but in addition I am a vegan in order to minimise my personal contribution to animal suffering and exploitation as far as I can!.
So while, as I said, I have no time for PETA there is no contradiction in an atheist leading or joining an organisation dedicated to saving life, whether human life or animal life!.
I personally despise Neukirk for her hypocrisy in that while being kept alive by animal-tested medication herself she campaigns to deny this right to other people with life-threatening illnesses!. She is now in the age group where cancer is most likely to strike, and like all women she has a one in three chance of it - my guess is she will move the goalposts again should that happen!.
But her decisions to divorce and not to have children, and her taste in house decoration, are her own business and nobody else's, and none of them are indications of insanity!. I detect a whiff of mysogyny here - I suspect she would earn less condemnation from you had she remained barefoot and pregnant for a few decades and dedicated her energies to keeping a nice home!.
You've tried to be a little bit too clever here, and failed!. Like others before you, you've found that V&V users aren't mindless hippies whose naivity you can have a little fun with, but mostly intelligent and articulate people who can give as good as they getWww@FoodAQ@Com
Atheists don't believe there is 'no point to life'!. I am an atheist and a lifelong political activist!. Much of my life has been dedicated to trying to change the world for the better, not just for myself, not just for the people living now but for the future too!.
My motivation has been love of humankind, hatred of injustice and a deep belief in the essential goodness and unselfishness of human beings!. The 'point to this life' is to do what good you can, to help where you can, to work to change that which is wrong!.
Unlike you, I am not motivated by either hope for reward or fear of punishment!. Yes, I belive that when you die you just die, and that there isn't an afterlife!.
also unlike you though, I am respectful of others' beliefs and don't jeer at believers without provocation, just because they are different from me!. Personally I think it's rather child-like and shallow to be 'good' simply because you believe there's a reward for it later, but that's your choice!.
My activism has been for human rights, but in addition I am a vegan in order to minimise my personal contribution to animal suffering and exploitation as far as I can!.
So while, as I said, I have no time for PETA there is no contradiction in an atheist leading or joining an organisation dedicated to saving life, whether human life or animal life!.
I personally despise Neukirk for her hypocrisy in that while being kept alive by animal-tested medication herself she campaigns to deny this right to other people with life-threatening illnesses!. She is now in the age group where cancer is most likely to strike, and like all women she has a one in three chance of it - my guess is she will move the goalposts again should that happen!.
But her decisions to divorce and not to have children, and her taste in house decoration, are her own business and nobody else's, and none of them are indications of insanity!. I detect a whiff of mysogyny here - I suspect she would earn less condemnation from you had she remained barefoot and pregnant for a few decades and dedicated her energies to keeping a nice home!.
You've tried to be a little bit too clever here, and failed!. Like others before you, you've found that V&V users aren't mindless hippies whose naivity you can have a little fun with, but mostly intelligent and articulate people who can give as good as they getWww@FoodAQ@Com
I'm going to need a bit more info before I answer this question!. What was the name of the documentary!? Was her belief system being that there is no point to life and you die you just die something that she actually said in the documentary!? Without knowing that, I can't see where you've made the link between that and atheism!. Are you saying that that is the viewpoint of all atheists, and so are you also saying that atheists either can't or don't value life!? In what way do her feelings about belongings relate to her suitability to her role in PETA!? Is she not entitled to any other beliefs because of her role!? I would really like to answer your question but I'd be interested to hear your answers first!. I'm thinking from your main question that I'm not going to get any open-mindedness but I would like to know what you have to say!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Well, I don't like PETA either, but at least I'm aware of what they stand for, while you obviously do not!. PETA is against the suffering and exploitation of animals, not just life or death!. The death of the animal simply falls under "suffering & exploitation" by default!. I do agree that Newkirk is a complete whackjob nutcase!.
also, you are inaccurate in your stereotype of atheists!. "If your whole belief system says there is no point to this life"!. I am an atheist and I do not agree with this statement!. An atheist doesn't believe in a supreme being/creator!. I don't believe there's a pre-determined purpose to the human race, but we do in fact serve a purpose within our families, our societies and our world!.
In conclusion, the fake "Rev" is both inaccurate about PETA's interests and has inaccurately stereotyped atheists!. I sure hope you haven't garnered your atheist stereotype in that cesspool of a section your TC badge represents!.
"Elohim Evangelical Ministries"---related to the Elohim City white supremacist compound in Oklahoma that has ties to the OKC Federal Building bombing!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
also, you are inaccurate in your stereotype of atheists!. "If your whole belief system says there is no point to this life"!. I am an atheist and I do not agree with this statement!. An atheist doesn't believe in a supreme being/creator!. I don't believe there's a pre-determined purpose to the human race, but we do in fact serve a purpose within our families, our societies and our world!.
In conclusion, the fake "Rev" is both inaccurate about PETA's interests and has inaccurately stereotyped atheists!. I sure hope you haven't garnered your atheist stereotype in that cesspool of a section your TC badge represents!.
"Elohim Evangelical Ministries"---related to the Elohim City white supremacist compound in Oklahoma that has ties to the OKC Federal Building bombing!?Www@FoodAQ@Com
I think your header "Peta and their nut job leader" explains it all!. The irony is this avowed atheist is revered by her members as a sort of god herself!. And she wallows in their constant praise as the "Savior" of animals!.
Watch out though, there are PETA members here who monitor the posts and report any question that they feel attacks their organization/cult and/or contradicts the teachings of Ingrid Newkirk!. It will be obvious by what they write in their posts (almost copied verbatim from PETA website and press releases including using PETA as their "reliable" source) and how they will attack your personality or intelligence!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Watch out though, there are PETA members here who monitor the posts and report any question that they feel attacks their organization/cult and/or contradicts the teachings of Ingrid Newkirk!. It will be obvious by what they write in their posts (almost copied verbatim from PETA website and press releases including using PETA as their "reliable" source) and how they will attack your personality or intelligence!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Ummm!.!.!. Since when do atheists not consider there to be any point in life!?
Just because we don't live in fear of "oh, if I do this, will I get into heaven!?" doesn't mean we aren't moral people!.
My favourite comeback to religious people who think atheists have no morals, and only 'god fearing' people have moral, is this:
"If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed!." Albert Einstein!.
Punishment a!.k!.a!. going to hell, reward a!.k!.a!. heaven!.Www@FoodAQ@Com
Just because we don't live in fear of "oh, if I do this, will I get into heaven!?" doesn't mean we aren't moral people!.
My favourite comeback to religious people who think atheists have no morals, and only 'god fearing' people have moral, is this:
"If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed!." Albert Einstein!.
Punishment a!.k!.a!. going to hell, reward a!.k!.a!. heaven!.Www@FoodAQ@Com