What do vegetarians think of organic meat?!
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some of you are wrong about how "organic" meat animals are handled. we raise and butcher our own. the only time it leaves our site is to be cut up and wrapped. we slaughter it (humanely) right at home, and send it out to be cut and wrapped.we know it is raised as well as killed humanely because we do it ourselves. not all meat dies a horrible,slow death, or is abused before they die.
one more thing some of you are misinformed about, it is NOT illegal to slaughter your own animals in the united states. we do it every year.as long as it is for your own use and you arent selling it, theres not a thing int he world illegal about it.
Organic simply refers to the non-use of antibiotics & hormones in the feed for the cattle, ie they're fed off a natural diet.
Doesn't in any sense of the word refer to ''humane'' meat, which even still is an oxymoron. How is it an oxymoron?
cause the animals life is being dictated by the human, chosen when to be terminated by the human, all for the humans profit and/or taste in developed countries.
Treat the cattle like royalty but vegetarians will still have a problem that you are slaughtering animals, regardless if its painless or not, though many vegetarians will opt instead for ethical standards in the meat-industry as a step.
Think about it logically? wouldnt it be more humane by its ultimate definition to NOT kill the animal at all?
vegetarian
food for thought
depending where you are, there is probably little, if any, legislation controlling the use of the term "organic" for meat. (that chicken your eating could still have lived in a windowless shed with 12 inches of living space, covered in feces.) further reading: Jonathan Safran Foer's Eating Animals (this book will change your life)
with slaughter, that animal may have lived on a family farm it's whole life as a pet but it was probably slaughtered in a mass production factory, where "humane" conditions are not exactly enforced. further reading: Gail A. Eisnitz's Slaughterhouse
what happens to the meat at the slaughter factory after it is no longer the animal is sometimes scarier than the inhumane treatment of the animal. poultry is up to 12% "solution" by weight. you pay for the weight of this chemical solution that the meat was soaked in to kill the germs that poor processing procedures put in the meat in the first place. total scam.
Jonathan Safran Foer's Eating Animals
Gail A. Eisnitz's Slaughterhouse
Its still meat. Thats the short answer. Even organic meat has to be mass-slaughtered and thus isn't treated humanely. The United States has made it illegal for people to slaughter their own animals and unless you are purchasing directly from a farmer chances are your meat was slaughtered inhumanely by sadistic people who do terrible, terrible things to animals (sodomize them with broom handles for no reason at all.) Organic is better than not at all but organic recieves the same treatment than non-organic does. So its not humane.
In the states, the organic label is pretty meaningless when it comes to the way animals are treated, so I don't think much of it, except perhaps that it is safer for the environment and the people. Truly free-range meat that is pasture-raised and finished is, to me, far preferable to conventional. I still wouldn't eat it (it's still a piece of a dead cow, and the thought of eating a body part doesn't really do it for me), but I am always glad when I hear that someone is choosing that.
If I was in one of those ridiculous "what if you HAD to eat meat" situations, I'd choose game. I think the most compassionate choice is to eat an animal that lived an entirely normal and natural life and then was killed instantly and without knowing what was coming. Trophy hunters and people who hunt "for fun" rather disgust me, but if I know someone who has killed a deer (or two) and is using that as meat for his or her family for the year, I totally respect that. The same does go for small family farms. If someone raises and kills their own cows on-site, and does the butchering themselves, then uses that to feed themselves for the year, they rock. I still believe that the vast majority of North Americans eat too much meat and do it for pleasure rather than health, but I give kudos to people who are choosing to not support the mass meat industry. *fist bump*
i understand your point of view. the animals die humanely and are raised right.
yet, they still die prematurely. is having meat on your plate cause for the taking of a life?
i think that in this day and age where it is not necessary to eat meat, and we are provided with muiltiple alternative ways to get our vital nutrients, it would be awesome if everyone could stop eating meat.
however, i commend your getting meat from humane farms, and think that is definitly a much better choice than getting it from just anywhere. you are showing that you are aware of what goes into getting meat onto your plate and you are making a conscious desicion based on your morals which is great.
I would imagine about the same as what I think about organic pesticides used on organic vegetables.. animals are still dead and the harvesting combines still "eat up" the rabbits and pest creatures as they do in non organic farms... as one stupid vegan puts it.. "dead is dead.. no matter how cruelty free you claim you are.."
Vegetarians in general won't think any more positive about organics for the simple reason that they oppose meat eating period. The "cruel" treatment of animals they refer too does not merely refer to how the animal lived but how or why it was killed. so even if you treated an animal in the best possible way, if the end result is to kill it for food, they would be opposed to that.
Good on you for choosing an option which is slightly less harmful to the environment, and slightly less cruel to the animals. If these are motivating factors for you, I'd encourage you to investigate the reasons why humans need to cut meat consumption down drastically due to the vast overconsumption by those of us in developed countries and the unavoidable increase in overpopulation which continues to occur, meaning it will be more important for us to consume less produce from livestock in coming years. Anybody who is capable of understanding these issues should seriously consider how they can encourage more people to quit meat and dairy, and quitting it themselves is obviously a good starting point.
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It's still ending the life of an innocent being. It's still slaughter. I don't think you'll find many vegetarians or vegans who will condone what you do.
On a side note, I think people who slaughter animals have severe mental problems. Holding down a living creature and putting a bullet in it's head or a chainsaw through it's neck and then continuing on like nothing has happened is, I believe, the signs of a severe mental defect. If they can do that to a pig or cow, what's stopping them from doing it to a human?
I, personally, wouldn't eat it, but I think it's way better than the **** they have in the supermarkets. If you are sure that the animals are treated humanly and they don't over feed the cows and let them live natural lives than that's fine with me.
not every vegetarian abstains from meat because we think it's inhumane. i don't eat it for religious and health reasons so organic or not it's not cool in my book.
I dont think there's anything wrong with eating organic meat or any other kind...
But then again i'm also not vegetarian soooo...
Meyow! ^.^
The term "organic" is meaningless when you are using it in the context of "humanely" raised animals.
Vegetarians still don't eat it because the animals are still slaughtered.
Oh, so the animals you eat died of old age?
I don't give a crap eat whatever you want hoe.
I don't know why you think organic equals humane. Unless you've visited this farm several times unannounced, there is no way to know that those animals were treated humanely. Regardless, they're sent to the same slaughterhouses as regular farms and are definitely not slaughtered humanely.
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I personally still feel that eating even organic meat is wrong because it was still an animal killed against it's will. I do still appreciate any one who is awere of factory farming and trys to avoid it. Thank you for not funding the factory farming company.
Vegetarian
It's still a dead animal, and you're still a human being (I don't see a natural naked human-being being able to jump on the back of a cow and eat it for dinner without any weapons and tools and etc.).
A bullshit scam. Meat is meat, dead is dead
I do not give a damn JUST EAT WAHTEVER THE FUC YOU WANT !
LOL @ slaughtering your own animals is illegal in the U.S. Um, ok? I don't know what United States you live in.