Do you think it is part of a normal human diet to drink a completely different species' milk?!


Question: Do you think it is part of a normal human diet to drink a completely different species' milk?
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I agree. As I type, my Boppy is resting on the armrests of my chair. My 11.5 week old son has his head on the crook of my right arm and laying on my Boppy.

I've always wondered why some parents were quick to wean their children off of breast milk to give them cow's milk. How is cow's milk supposed to be better? (I've asked this in the parenting section when answering weaning questions, and have yet to receive a response, that I have seen.)

Once, in the past 11 weeks, I was watching TV and I saw one of those California Dairy commercials. In the commercial, a calf was drinking a bottle given to him by a human and I wondered what was in the bottle. I also wondered why, if cow milk is that great, the calf wasn't getting it straight from his mother. My daughter has an "On the Farm" type book that was at least mine from the 1970s. (I was born in 1977. However, it could have been from my brother who was born in 71 or my sister's, who was born in 1975. My mother gave it to me with a bunch of our old books.) The book said that the calf, after he is born, gets a formula of something (I don't remember what) and I think it showed the calf being fed the bottle. That was the one time I read my daughter the book. (She has an Elmo book in which he visits Grover on a farm. I skip the page regarding them getting milk from a cow.)

The other day, my three-year-old was watching "Word World" on PBS. I commented that a pig and an ant were drinking milk from a cow. (The only milk my three-year-old knows is soy and Mommy Milk.) My husband, who is neither vegan nor vegetarian, commented facetiously, that some people might take issue with that. I said that I was just making an observation. I then told him of the dairy commercial. He joked that maybe the mother cow was out having a beer. (I pump on occasion, when I'm full enough and when I plan on having a beer. Thankfully, there have been times in which I've been able to have two or three and my son slept. Friday, we went to Maumee Bay Brewing Company in Toledo, OH and I was able to have three. One was very strong as I could taste the alcohol. Yay.)

Anyway, I'm rambling and my son has fallen asleep. I think.

(My husband understands my reasons for being vegan. When we married, I would eat whatever, whenever without regards to what was or wasn't in them, how healthy they were, from where they came, etc. We live near a meat market owned by a family who raises their cows as humanely and organically as possible. They know my reasons for being vegan, as they are similar to why they do what they do. In addition to their beef, they also sell chicken, eggs, cheese and turkey from local farms who have similar values and practices as them. I trust them because they are local and they are members of the church of which my husband is a pastor.)



No, I do not think it is normal at all. Mother's milk is there for you at the time that you need it most in life. Sooner or later, your mother weans you off from it. Why? Because you do not need it anymore. So why do we go directly to cow's or goat milk after we are weaned? Because many people do not take the time to learn ways to get the nutrients naturally from whole foods. Heck, even almond, rice, coconut (etc..) milk has calcium.
Yes, it was the "norm" for me to drink milk before I turned vegan only because I was uneducated on this subject. Now I know the truth, another species milk was not designed for us as human milk was not designed for cows.
"But you need calcium and cow's milk is a great way to get it!"
Have you heard that before? I am sure you have. Though it is true that you can get a high amount of calcium from other milk people often forget that wholefoods that we can eat at anytime can also contain a great amount of calcium. Too much calcium is not good for you and drinking 3 to 4 cups of milk a day is not that great of an idea. So no. I do not agree nor do I think it is normal to drink it. I know of some animals nursing babies of a different species but this is their choice (plus, those baby animals are weaned at a certain age and stop drinking milk afterward). It is not the choice of all those cows to be painfully milked for our "pleasure". Yes, your pleasure, NOT need. We do NOT need animal milk.. it is just greed.



Well since we humans have been using many different species milk to make cheese for thousands of years, I don't see a particular problem..It's certainly easier on the animal to give milk than it is to give meat. Of course if you are a vegan then this is a moot conversation. Have a glass of warm milk and enjoy the calcium your bones need.

http://www.mediterranean.dietstoday.org



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No, I think it's gross. I don't drink gorilla milk. I don't drink dolphin milk or dog's milk or any other animals' milk so why should we drink cow/goat's milk. The idea of being breatfed by an animal is just weird. Plus, we're taking the milk away from that animal that should rightfully go to her little baby, just like human milk should go to our babies, not some other species! That's my two cents :)

It makes me think of this image:
http://media.portland.indymedia.org/imag…



What's normal and by whose standards are we measuring? For many, dairy products are a normal part of life. For others, it may not be.
Are vaccinations... with all the crap in them... normal? For many they are. For others, they aren't.
Are genetically altered foods normal? Some have no problem with it. Some do.

Now... many believe people are suffering because of those vaccines and genetically altered foods... but... others are still disagreeing. So... as with anything.. it depends on who you ask and what is normal for them.



its debatable

me personally, not really, drinking our own species milk would be natural, not all other spieces BUT our own
but, i think, if we can do it, its probably natural, in that it can happen in nature, whether its natural in the 'moral' sence or not is a differnt issue



Course it isn't natural for a grown species to consume milk from a lactating mother. But that being said it is a normal part of many peoples diet worldwide both in poor & rich countries, its an easy source of nutrients & for various dishes.

vegetarian



Define consequences...this it pretty vague...are you suggesting there is a relation between human consumption of cow milk & the economic instability going on? If so, how? Or do mean the somewhat amoral society?

Source? Like I said, too vague...



No, absolutely not normal.

http://www.tryveg.com/cfi/toc/?v=03milk



Normal no.... a lot of diets now reconmend staying away from dairy. For thousands of years humans didn't eat grains or dairy.... We aren't really built for it.

http://www.eatstopeat.co



Nope. That's why I don't do it.
That's not natural what-so-ever. Cow's milk is for baby cows, not for adult humans.



I think it makes no sense. you only drink your moms milk for like a year so why drink milk that is meant for a baby of another specie?



Humans are the only animals to drink milk AFTER infancy.



People have been doing it for centuries. How to define normal anyway?



I'm lactose intolerant anyway, so whether it is or not I can't have it.



No, of course not.



soy milk is the best :3



Yes, humans have been drinking cows milk for thousands of years. We've only been taking PILLS to supplement for nutritional deficiencies our diet for about 30. You tell me which is more "natural."

And you definitely need to supplement your veg*n diet. From the veganRD:

"In a new study from the United Kingdom, researchers found that more than half of vegan men were deficient in vitamin B12 based on their serum levels. The findings are part of the EPIC-Oxford study and will be published in the European Journal of Clinical Nutrition.

The researchers looked at diets and serum levels of B12 in 226 omnivores, 231 vegetarians and 232 vegans. Mean serum B12 levels in vegans were 33% lower than in the vegetarians and 57% percent lower than in the omnivores."

Low B12 can lead to heart disease and stroke! MORE vegans are at risk for heart disease and stroke than meat eaters. The shocking truth is now out.

http://www.theveganrd.com/2010/07/vitami…




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