Questions for vegetarians?!


Question: Questions for vegetarians?
This isn't supposed to be bashing vegetarians but it did come across my mind. Many people say they are vegetarians to stop animal cruelty, but when farmers harvest grain many birds and small animals are killed or have their homes destroyed by the harvesting machines. Also in order to have more crop farmland trees are destroyed thus destroying acres of habitat and cause many species to become extinct or endangered (this can be seen every day. Where I live the whole area used to be forest or natural prairie grass, now it is all corn and soybeans). Don't you consider this cruel to animals too?

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GC its not many? And you think your a biologist? I think not.

A vegans diet kills Trillions of insects from pesticides every year, and Millions of other animals like birds, mice, moles, rabbits, snakes, turtles, and many more also get killed every year for the very diet vegans eat. Not to mention the animals that die from deforestation so more produce can be planted. I admit my diet kills animals. But many vegans won't admit that theirs also does. Or they will say its not as much. A death for a diet is a death for a diet.



1. There is a difference between directly supporting animal cruelty and indirect casualties.
2. Eating meat (and dairy and eggs) causes much more harm to animals and the environment, because much more resources are needed. So while omnivores are consuming animal and plant products and causing greater destruction to the ecosystem, vegans are greatly eliminating that destruction by only consuming plant products.

You seem not to understand a simple thing: meat-eaters are causing more destruction. Most of the crops grown, go to feed animals in factory farms in order to fatten them up so they can be killed for people who eat them. Yes, vegans do cause certain amounts of harm, but nowhere near the amount that meat-eaters do. If you truly care about the environment and the animals who are being killed indirectly to provide food, then you should go vegan. Or you can stop eating completely and not worry about it at all.

vegan :D



Yeah it's awful. How many animals are killed? It is not many. It is also unintentional. More animals die through the production of livestock, because they are fed grain. It is an old argument generated by a conservative commentator who produced a "study" which took data from some research saying how many hundreds of animals are killed by crop production. Of course, he used misleading aspects of the data to suggest that meat heads are responsible for the deaths of fewer animals by counting the numbers of species which were killed by predators after the crops were cleared as an equivalent to those crushed by machinery (a minuscule proportion of the numbers he used). (Andy Lamey (2007). Food Fight! Davis versus Regan on the Ethics of Eating Beef. Journal of Social Philosophy Volume 38, pages 331–348.)

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.11…



Leaving apart the question of animal cruelty, eating meat is highly destructive for the environment as the meat production is much more inefficient. It is necessary to grow the crops first in order to feed the cattle. For this process, the amount of water, land, and the food loss ( as an animal will not build muscle for everything it eats)is much greater and therefore anti ecological. Finally by being anti ecological it becomes also more hurtful for animal in an indirect way as well. I am sorry to tell you, but your arguments are not valid, hope you can understand, and do not take it personal.
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This is a great argument that would make perfect sense if the majority of crops grown in the US didn't go towards feeding factory-farmed animals.

Livestock consumes 47% of the soy and 60% of the corn produced in the US. Source: http://www.ucsusa.org/food_and_agricultu…

This means that if you eat meat that much more grain must be harvested in order to feed the cow which would result in the deaths of many more animals due to combine harvesting anyway. So, although your argument is valid, if a person has the desire to not fund the death of animals as much as possible, they would remain vegan.



The forest and prairie that was destroyed for corn and soybeans was done so for meat eaters. The vast majority of the corn and soy crops are fed to livestock. And it takes an average of 15 pounds of plant matter to produce one pound of meat. As such, meat eaters are responsible for the death and destruction of which you speak.

So if you actually feel bad for all the little field creatures, vegetarianism is the only answer.



Vegetarians almost universally deny killing, using, or exploiting animals.
But as you have noted, it isn't true. In fact, there are dozens of ways even the most hardcore vegan uses and exploits animals on a daily basis, yet they continue to boast that they do not, while condemning non-vegetarians, who at least are willing to acknowledge our usage of animals.
And when their hypocrisy is exposed, they usually attempt to either minimize it, or turn the blame back on the non-vegetarians, as many of these answers clearly demonstrate.

* ...and then they showcase being in denial with lots of thumbs down.



Keep in mind omnivores kill even more of the small animals in addition to the animal who's meat they're eating. Obviously it's impossible to save every single animal, but vegetarians kill significantly less than omnivores. Omnivores indirectly consume more plants than vegetarians. It is cruel, but at least vegetarians are helping the cause by consuming less plant foods and no meat.



Hello :-)

I understand what you're saying; the fact that these animals are killed is a horrible crime. However, I as a vegitarian, can not do anything about it. I buy organic products from farms near where I live. I try my hardest not to support animal cruelty, but I need to eat something.

What's better: eating some vegetables that may have replaced the habitat of a couple animals, or to eat the meat of an innocent animal that had absolutely no chance in live? Barely even HAD a life?

I can't control the fact that animals die. I can control whether I eat them or not. I hope this answered your question.



im not sure who says that, but i never did
all i know is my being veggie means i dont take part in whats happening, and thats important to me, i cant stop whats happening, but i dont have to take part in it

but, when many people have soemthing to say about something, eventualyl it has to change, thats how soceity works
and so eventually the amount of people can make the difference

the fact that we still destroy lots of things isnt something i can change either, again, thats for us as a soceity to do, and many are trying to do that now, veggies and non veggies alike
;-)



Who cares? Mice are rodents.

So tell me - What would you have us eat? (Us as humans - I'm not vegan) This is a poorly thought out question.

Vegans do it for their feelings. If you are emotionally charged about food, eat how you think you'll feel better. Don't worry about others! Although if you can talk someone out of a donut or candy bar, I think it'll benefit that person in the long run!



You are correct in your assessment, however the goal is to do what causes less harm to animals and the environment in general. So, that is why people choose to be vegetarian/vegan to cause less harm.

http://www.mixherbs.com



the goal is to limit animal suffering as much as is possible. some things are unavoidable for us to abstain from.

http://wayfaringvegans.weebly.com/



Not ALL vegetarians are doing it "for the animals". Some of us just don't like meat or believe it is healthier for US not to eat meat.



Thank god i was about to blow my head off if this question was about ''vegetarians eat plants, why if they are against harming life do they do this?''.

Right well simple ecology, plants get light from the sun & use it to process food for themselves (photosynthesis) roughly 10% of the light is only used for energy production, a similar rule follows for each chain. When the animal eats the plant it takes between 10-15% of it & converts it to energy & then humans consume 10-15% of the energy from the animal.
So try think logically. Which is a more direct source of obtaining energy?
Animals have to eat food to be fattened up for us to eat, large resources are put into growing & production of animals.
By cutting straight to the chase ie plants, this eliminates the whole steps of production via animal.

Therefore one can strongly & safely assume, that yes whilst any form of expansion for human benefit harms animals. A vegetarian/vegan plant diet is considerably less harmful

vegetarian
Life kills life to survive




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