What happens in a factory farm?!


Question: What happens in a factory farm?
It seems like vegans never get tired or run out of things to say about all the terrible and horrific things they claim to happen in their so called "factory farms". They make it out to be they know everything that goes on inside these places, more than the government inspectors and more than the actuall people who work on the farms. In general their only sources are from videos on YouTube and facts they pick up off of animal rights websites. My question for you vegans, is how many of you have actually seen anything of what you descride in person. I'm talking about the pigs being scalded alive, the downer cows being hauled off on chains, the chickens being thrown around like toys, blah, blah, blah, that all of you like to descride. How vegans here have ever been inside a slaughter house or a real farm and witnessed anything first hand that you describe?

Answers:

Simply put, factory farms are food factories. The objective of a factory farm is to produce food, meat, dairy, eggs AND crops foods.

Your observation is correct. Most vegans, especially the ones who post here have no first hand experience whatsoever on what happens in ANY farm much less the so called factory farms they often refer to. More often than not, the only "source" of their "indisputable" information is a YouTube video ( ironically the very same website that has videos of alien visitors from outer space) or a propaganda site like PETA. I've pointed it out before: how the heck can a 150lb slaughterhouse worker throw around a 1500 lb thrashing cow?? Apparently, common sense, along with the ability to produce meat digesting enzymes (another popular vegan fallacy) is something you lose if you become a vegan.

You are correct in your edit too. For an industry that relies on body weight (meat weight) and volume production (more eggs, more milk) to be profitable, it is illogical for farmers to practice where animals lose weight and too stressed to produce enough eggs or milk unless their intention is to lose money. Feed lots (before slaughter) are not for weight gain, they are for meat quality improvement. Corn is often introduced in feed lots to "sweeten" the meat.

As for "cramped quarters" have they even seen cattle in the wild? Cattle aren't called "herd" animals because they are solitary.



I have been to two slaughter houses and they are more horrific than vegans describe.
Also, I find it funny how you try to discredit proof by saying its a video off of youtube when you're really proving our point, it is video evidence. Look up the documentary "Earthlings" if you want to be informed. Or you can also go on youtube and look at the cruelty of Smithsfield foods that has been recently revealed in the past few months using video.



That's an adorable duck you have as your picture, did you eat that last night for dinner?

So by your own words, perhaps someone should kill and eat you because you can be quite aggressive, or perhaps you'll have a very loving relationship of being kept for your eggs. At least in both of those cases you would be of use to society in some way.



Vegans have no idea what goes on in farms. Sure they saw a video but that's about it. Most have never been to a farm. If I showed them a video of a prison guard abusing a prisoner would they think all prison guards do this, or would they use their common sense and figure out its not the norm. And understand that sometimes bad things happen everywhere. Even in churches priests have molested kids. Parents have abused children. Should we ban prisons, churches, and parents? These PETA videos are NOT the norm.



My sisters neighbour worked in a slaughter house and he witnessed a bull being stun gun that did not work so the slaughter men entertained themselves by forcing a metal bar into the wound in the bulls head and twisting it round until the bull died in agony, it took over 10 minutes for the animal to die.



I have seen some of your other questions. You obviously enjoy ranting about vegans and what other people do and think. Being vegan is a personal choice people make out of their own free will. It has nothing to do with others. No one is asking you to become vegan. So why dont' you mind your own business and let everybody mind theirs? Peace.



Factory farms feed animals out and then sell them for slaughter.



You can go to WWW.FACTORYFARMING.COM & read all about it.



Are you saying these videos are faked?

Or are you suggesting that it's likely any factory farm worker will film a cow being hauled up by himself, on full view of the other factory workers and capturing his face on the video?

How many factory workers would actually fim that stuff themselves?
You may as well ask why Pol pot didn't film himself killing Cambodians, or why Hitler didn't admit he killed Jewish people.


Quite a few vegans and vegetarians have witnessed first hand the video scenes inside the slaughterhouses. They took the videos.

What vegetarian you know would work in one of those places?

If they really WERE fluffy animal hotels with Binky and BUnny ordering room service carrot soup day and night til they were cuddled to death, I'm sure a lot of vegans would work there.

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Watch the doccumentarys earthlings and food.Inc. Watch clips on youtube or maybe rent it. Either way just watch them. Both of theese films have undercover investigative footage of factory farms used in them. On factory farms the "farmers" that are really under payed illeagle immigrated workers who are not treated very well do very awfull things. The coorpiration only cares about making money. Animals are impregnated against their wil and have their babys taken away hours after birth, they are kept in cages so small they develop habbits such as knawing on the metal and so on, they are given growth hormones to make them grow fatter quicker for better meat witch causes lung, heart and leg problems and finalley they are taken to the slaughter house to be skinned alive on moving conveyor belts and there you have it a plate of meat.
Deer hunter
first of all how many times do all the veg*ns on here have to say that we don't like PETA. I hate it personally. Second of all I never said all farms treated their animals like that. 90% of meat in America may come from there but there are still family farms that treat their animals like living beings.



As Paul Mccartney said: if there were glass walls for slaughter houses most people would be vegetarian. Humans are not made to consume meat. Our jaws and teeth are built for consuming plants, nuts, grains, beans.. etc. I feel obesity weight and health problems contribute to the lack of understanding most Americas have about what they consume. For example, the meat on the market is injected with carbon monoxide so that it stays fresh. They showed the meat going brown without it. So... millions of Americans are unknowingly eating rotten meat. I may not be educated in this topic but I know what I hear about the farm factories and meat markets. I refuse to buy products from them and so should every American.

I'm also a octo laco vegetarian. I couldn't give up cheese or eggs and I don't expect meat eaters give up meat but at least be particular about what they buy. Research each product you purchase. Don't just buy whatever you see and think its okay. Especially if its going to go into your body. Treat your body like a temple.

The public will be purchasing products from this company and has every right to know what goes on in farm factories. Basically, chemicals (tons of chemicals) are injected into both the living and dead meat of that animal. These chemicals are very bad for you. Also, the animals are often abused because of the mass production of meat. The average American consumes meat everyday and even wastes the meat they buy. This means they must do something to get rid of the animals and produce more and they must do it quickly. They want to get paid.

Stop eating meat..! I'm not an animal person and don't care much about animals but even I know what happens to them behind the bars of prison and torment these creatures must face before they are slaughtered for someones dinner plate and another persons wallet.



I have. I went vegetarian when working on a farm which had a piggery and dairy. The place was run by the Salvation Army and it was a residnetial rehab. Most of the men who were there had come straight from gaol and they worked unsupervised with the animals. I saw them hit the pigs to get them to move. I saw pigs confined to farrowing crates and sow stalls. I saw a pig shot i the head after it jumped out of a farrowing crate and cut its rump, which was left untreated and it got septicaemia. I saw the old downer cows put aside to go on the truck to the slaughterhouse. I saw the calves taken from their mothers and sent to the slaughterhouse at only a few days old. I heard the cows crying as they mourned the loss of their offspring.

I also spent a bit of time on sheep farms as a kid, my mum's cousin owned a very large property and we would visit during summer. I saw sheep dying of shck and bleeding to death after being cut during shearing. I saw on sheep which had skin cancer, it's face was an open wound from just below the eyes down to the top lip. They gave it no pain relief, left it overnight to be sheared, then killed it after they got the wool. I also saw them shoot "pests" like kangaroos, foxes etc.

I have also visited chicken farms to investigate the conditions. I have seen decomposing chickens in battery cages and broiler sheds, which should not be there- any animal which dies is supposed to be removed within 24 hours. I have seen lame and crippled chickens which were starving and dehydrated because they couldn't reach the feeders and water supply. I have seen the burns from ammonia in the litter which irritates their skin but since they can't stand up they can't do anything about it. All this is NORMAL in a chicken farm, ever time we reported these breaches to the Australian law (not actual laws but called "codes of practice") they were ignored by authorities. Here is a web page describing some of the rescues I participated in: http://openrescue.org/rescues/2005/20050…

So tell me farmgirl, how many broiler sheds and battery farms have you visited? How many piggeries and feedlots have you seen? Why is it that I could take any random stranger I meet right now, drive half an hour from the CBD and show them chooks living in the misery of a battery cage but you don't seem to understand how commonplace this is?




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