Vegetarians - Why are you so agressive?!
Vegetarians - Why are you so agressive?
I asked a question out of pure curiosity and was insulted. I happen to be PESCO - VEGETARIAN - I do eat fish. I am not judging anybody. And I am not a Bible thumper. I just wanted to know why FIsh is something we should not eat on a moral level - if Jesus ate fish. CHILL.
Answers:
Okay, one: not all vegetarians are aggressive. I have met many more non-vegetarians that are aggressive towards us vegetarians. Why do they care so much about what WE eat?
Two: You're not a pesco-vegetarian. You're pescatarian, which isn't a real vegetarian. True vegetarians don't eat meat of any kind, and just because fish don't have fur doesn't instantaneously categorize it as a vegetable. It's still an animal, and it still can feel pain.
Three: How do you know Jesus ate fish? Just because a 2000-year-old book written by someone who, undoubtedly, wasn't God Himself says so? Were you actually there to witness Jesus eating the fish? Did you hear it directly from His mouth that he ate fish? I don't think so.
I'm sorry―well, not really―if my reply to your question sounded "aggressive", but it really annoys me when people eat fish and/or poultry and still somehow consider themselves vegetarians. They're NOT vegetarians. They're just NON-vegetarians that don't eat red meat. Some would call it picky eating. Anyway, I do give you a little credit. Since you cut out some meat, you're on your way to becoming a real vegetarian and helping out the world a great deal.
I don't condone anyone insulting you. But to be fair, you are not a vegetarian, or a "pesco-vegetarian", which is a misleading term. You are a pescatarian. Vegetarians do not eat the flesh of animals. Fish are animals and they have the capacity to feel pain. Fishing is also an environmental disaster and is unsustainable over the long term. I don't say that to belittle you, and I'm happy you're a pescatarian as opposed to a full blown omnivore.
As for Jesus eating fish, he ate fish at a time they were plentiful and likely necessary for life due to limited resources. Do you think Jesus would support the destruction of the Earth's environment? Because sadly, that is what is happening.
I didn't see the answers to the question you are referring to. But I think some of the agressiveness can be due to the large number of harassing questions being asked and questions being given here. Some people have also been served fish as a "vegetarian" meal in certain circumstances, which can be upsetting. This happens, at least in part, by pescatarians claiming that fish is vegetarian (which it is not). Again, I'm not condoning the behaviour, just trying to explain it.
Well, not all veggies are aggressive. I don't need anyone to believe what I believe. You aren't a vegetarian though. I agree with the person above me.
On a moral level, species are becoming more rare these days than in Jesus' days.
I mean you can go Kosher and eat most of any meat and say on a moral level it's fine.
Fish are also a leading carrier of mercury, which is unhealthy for everyone but especially pregnant women or women who may become pregnant so there are health reasons to limit the intake of fish.
1. No proof that Jesus ate fish.
2. Even if he did, there are many people, including me, who would say that our moral standards today ought to be higher than Jesus' 2000 years ago.
If you eat fish but not meat due to health reasons that's fine as long as you specify that. I take issue with people who justify eating fish on an ethical basis as if fish don't feel anything. I also take issue with people who think fish and meat are different things on a moral/ethical basis. They might be different on a health basis but otherwise fish is meat.
I'm not an agressive vegetarian in the slightest. I stopped eating meat for two reasons:
1) I pretty much hate the taste of any meat and have since my parents introduced me to solid foods.
2) When I did buy meat before, I would search high and low for free roaming chicken, etc., and other such humanely treated animal products. But I've noticed that these are hard to find and usually too expensive for my university student money, so being a vegetarian is cheaper and makes more sense to me.
So to me, I don't really have an issue with people eating meat or fish, so long as the animal was treated fairly. Abuse is too common. You can eat all the fish you want, dear, it's just not for me.
I can get agressive sometimes to it just feels like people are going to make fun of us because of our beliefs. It kinda tells them just back off and don't mess around with me because of my beliefs
I researched the question in question & I submitted an answer. I read your profile & perhaps the French Canadian part of Canada readily accepts the term Pesco-Vegetarian as a viable word. I also read the many answers you received to that other question & I missed that ones that you say have insulted you. People just spoke from their own life experiences & answered your open-ended question. Food & Religion are 2 separate categories. Religious people are found in the food section, yet I doubt that a large percentage of people in the food category will be traveling over to the Religion section. If you want an answer that is more to the point & accurate, then I think that you would have done better by posting your questions in the other category under Religion. I'm betting that you will get a more serious answer from people who actually study the Bible to great lengths for many hours & years! Vegetarians & Vegans don't really want to read about meat, anymore than a Christian wants the Satanic Bible on their coffee table!
Fish probably can feel pain, but they aren't aware of it in the same way we are because they aren't sentient, or even conscious, beings. They act merely how instinct dictates them to act, there is no understanding there, it doesn't even know it's alive. The fact that it feels pain triggers it to act in a certain way, but that's instinctive, very much like when we touch something hot and draw our hand back immediately. Fish are not conscious, they cannot act in a way that is not usual to them, they can swim, they can jump, they can eat, they can flap around on a river bank, but not much more. Oh, it is quite a complex creature that can act in a very large amount of ways depending on circumstance, but that just shows it has quite a lot of instinct. They have no capacity for free thought, and don't even know that they are alive, so therefore it is impossible for them to suffer. That it cannot suffer means that its feeling pain is irrelevant.
Of course, that conclusion rests on that logic dictates that if something doesn't know it's alive, and is not consciously aware of itself or anything around it, then it cannot suffer, as it is not aware of the pain, just acts on it instinctively. Feel free to disagree, but it sounds like quite reasonable logic to me. A computer is very complex, and acts in a myriad of different ways depending on what you do with your mouse or keyboard, or what programmes are running, but in the same way it cannot feel pain neither can a fish.
In the same way, although a shrimp is less complex than a fish, it probably can feel pain, but again they can't suffer, making the pain irrelevant. Therefore I cannot see any moral argument against eating fish.
i sorda see where your coming from. but fish feel pain. also, they are highley intelegent animals. yes, jesus did eat fish, but the lord has given us the ability to choose. some choose not to eat fish, and some do. it's all up to the person in question.
"Vegetarians - Why a re you so agressive?"
not all vegetarians are agressive. yeah, some peta people are a little wacko (but i'm a peta person so i'm pretty much insulting my self, not anyone else) but every vegetarian/vegan has their reasons for their actions.
happy holidays to you!
They are agressive because they are insecure and very unhappy.
They should all eat a happy meal!