If vegans believe that no animal can be property?!
If vegans believe that no animal can be property?
why do the vegans I know have dogs and cats? Additional Details
2 days ago
Someone on a different question said that that was a vegan belief.
I thank everyone who has answered so far. It's interesting seing these viewpoints.
15 hours ago
red, if you read my lat detail, you will see that on a different question and, even here in this question, said that it is a belief.
Answers: 2 days ago
Someone on a different question said that that was a vegan belief.
I thank everyone who has answered so far. It's interesting seing these viewpoints.15 hours ago
red, if you read my lat detail, you will see that on a different question and, even here in this question, said that it is a belief. Domesticated cats and dogs have different needs from their wild brethren, and they live healthier more comfortable lives when they are cared for. Many pet owners, vegan or not, will tell you that they do not own the pet. The pet owns them. :P
I let my cats outside. They're pretty inept at hunting, so I'm not worried for the wildlife. My cats always come back and beg to be let inside, so I know that they want to live with me.
Me-troll, why do my cats keep returning to me if they're "miserable"? Who says that all vegans believe that? All people are different...no matter what they eat or dont eat. Generalizing is bad. Vegans are one step away from eating dirt. who knows why they do anything? There is no such thing as a vegan.
It is hypocrisy if they do have pets. Keeping animals in captivity for your own purpose is exploitation. They'll all claim the animal is "happy". Truth is the animal is happy to see them after being alone and miserable. No animal is happier in captivity then being free. I know some people have saved animals from death and sickness. If you have rehabilitated them, it's time to set them free or be a hypocrite.
I'm sure Michael H will disagree and call me a troll. I don't know why vegans have pets if the pet requires meaty foods.
Thanks seems a bit odd to me.
Don't many vegans believe we shouldn't have any control over animals ? I think they are a bit at odds with that statement if they kept any sort of pet but being a pet-keeping vegan is much better for animals than being a meat-eater so its still a step in the right direction..
I suppose i can sort of understand the "resuce pet" thing. If its a choice between seeing a rescue cat being put down or taking it home, i can see why some vegans would rather take it home.
But i ( as a veggie, not vegan ) couldn't buy it meaty pet food so would think of this ahead and not take the cat on. To me one cat dead is better than a life of supporting meat production.
I did meet a vegan who thought it was wrong that i have pet sheep ( commercial farm rescues ) but it was OK for him to have 2 pet cats...I didn't understand that.
I've never called anyone a troll because i disagree with them, I've called them trolls because they behave like trolls. I believe strongly that animals are not property and that humans should not have domesticated animals living with them.
But I realize that the overpopulation of cats and dogs on this planet is out of control and not a problem that will be solved in my lifetime. Therefore I have a dog - he was a rescue from the animal shelter and I got him before I was vegan and fully formed my ideas about humans and pets. He is the greatest thing to me but I understand that it is not really in his best interest to live with humans. Dogs have so many instincts that they are not able to act on because of all the human interaction.
Being a vegan is not about fitting your ideas in a tiny box and not realizing that life is full of choices and challenges. As vegans we make what we feel are the best most ethical choices for ourselves and the world around us. Re: Michael H's response
There are vegan pet foods out there as well, ones designed for optimum health for the animal.
There are also naturally vegetarian animals, as well. I know that my iguana has a long lifespan living with me than she would have in the wild and she eats a fully vegan diet of fresh fruits and vegetables. If you had dogs or cats, would you think of them as property or as family and companions?
I am guardian to the cats and dogs that I am responsible for, not their owner, and they were not bought and sold, they were adopted. If you adopt a child would anyone ask you if it was property?
If someone buys animals from a pet store or a breeder, they are not vegan, they are supporting the sale of animals as property with only profit in mind. Generalization is very, very, bad. Not all vegans believe this, it's like the arguement about honey, whether it is vegan or not. Besides, the domesticated animals DO have different needs than the wild ones, like someone has already pointed out. Plus, HAVING something doesn't have the same definition as OWNING something. I HAVE parents. I don't OWN parents. Likewise, I could say I LIVE WITH my dogs. MY as in I HAVE, not I OWN. First of all, my cat is not my property. She's my baby. Yes, I refer to her as my cat, but then I'm her person. That said, I much prefer the term "owner" to "master." Still, when I call the vet regarding her care, I refer to myself as her mom.
Second, I adopted my cat long before I went vegetarian, then vegan. I would never abandon her just because some people think it's "wrong" to live with animals. And yes, I feed her meat. She's a CAT. I don't need meat; she does So I find more natural pet foods for her.
Third, there are millions of animals without homes, being euthanized in shelters. Millions of cats live unhappy lives on the streets, without enough food, with cruel people harming them. Cats and dogs have been domesticated to the point that they rely on us. I think the companionship thing goes both ways.
And, yes, I adopted her (or she adopted me) from a shelter. I don't have anything against people who adopt pets from shelters,but I don't like when people get animals from pet stores or breeders. Vegans don't believe animals can't be property.
Do some research and come back.